Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

[DivineIllusion]

I agree with all the ways that you have listed that can dispatch the FTG technique, but the usual problem when comparing a character against minato is that the OP usually does not specify how much knowledge one character has about the other. Going up against FTG technique without knowledge is almost like going up against pain without knowledge.

I agree totally

Saix sorry if I understood sthg wrong, but im still shure Itachi said, that Naruto was cought by looking at his fingermovement. Ill proof that, maybe im wrong. But I was quiet shure

 

[Mr.Beastie]

orochimaruo i agree has a good chance,j-man whatever

ill say this if your not a kage level ninja you get merked and there is a big diff. between s-class and kage imo

kisame, itachi, sasori, konan, sasuke,naruto, kakuza are definitely kage level i mean they may not beat minto but they stand a chance. I said zabuza cause his mist technique might be hard to beat. I think konan could definetly beat him if she uses her six hundred billion explosive tags, maybe a whole village. Sasori cause he could stand back while his kazekage puppet or his 100 puppets try and kill minato waiting for him to make the wrong move and he can switch bodys. Kisame cause he could engulf the area in water stopping his kunai in the water. kakuza cause he could use his huge attacks to destroy minato's kunai. Itachi,sasuke,naruto im sure you heard enough about them.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

That's what I thought bitch. People like you are what make this site shitty. Going from thread to thread talking to people like your above them. Your full of shit. I'm done

Ha! You mad?

 

[Amaterasu14]

Eyecontact is necessary, so Minato has to look in Itachis eyes AND itachi mustve activated Tsukoyomi before. The other way it wouldnt work. If Minato knows that, hed just look at itachis feet, like Guy did or on his bodie, believe me it is possible.
Difficult, but Minato is moves without losing time. So why should he not be able to look at Itachis body?

I don't think Looking at Itachi's feet gonna do you any good since he barely moves his feet.
FIghting an S-class/Kage class ninja as Itachi while ONLY looking at his feet, is gonna get you killed.

But Eye contact isn't necessary for all of Itachi's Genjutsu, he's done Genjutsu without using Eye contact sometimes. Anyway's all ninja looks into another ninja's eyes before battle. :lili:

 

[DivineIllusion]

this staement is completley wrong.

itachi literally said "to put you in a gnejutsu all i need to do is point a finger at you" not "you must look at my finger"

it also says it here

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you are starting to lie now and your arguement is failing

Ok youre right i just read. I missunderstood. "...even a finger is enough" thats what Itachi told Naruto. Now i guess youre right, but I hope you understand that it is easy to missunderstand, cause before they were talking of looking in his eyes. The expression is not quiet perfect.


But anyways that method might not work vs each Ninja. Especially vs a ninja on hokagelevel.

and please dont always cry lie, lie lie. Ok? I accept that I was wrong in this point and done.

 

[Amantius]

I don't think Looking at Itachi's feet gonna do you any good since he barely moves his feet.
FIghting an S-class/Kage class ninja as Itachi while ONLY looking at his feet, is gonna get you killed.

But Eye contact isn't necessary for all of Itachi's Genjutsu, he's done Genjutsu without using Eye contact sometimes. Anyway's all ninja looks into another ninja's eyes before battle. :lili:

if genjutsu was effective on minato madara would have use it against him, the other thing is sharingan is not fast enough to keep up with minato, if it could sasuke genjutsu would have work on raikage. and just remember raikage said minato is faster than him.

 

[NaruGokuPWNS]

his base speed is great, but it can be matched especially by jounin. Minato didn't know the third's jutsu so that doesn't matter

:flaw::flaw::flaw: Minatos base speed is far faster than jounin speed, and that says A LOT. His base speed is nearly as fast (or infact as fast), as when he uses ftg. (see manga 501 pg 2-3)

 

[kadowade]

if genjutsu was effective on minato madara would have use it against him, the other thing is sharingan is not fast enough to keep up with minato, if it could sasuke genjutsu would have work on raikage. and just remember raikage said minato is faster than him.

Genjutsu does work on minato. But the sharingan prolly wouldn't be able to keep with him IF He's moving. BUT Someone Like Itachi Would use Genjutsu Before the fight, like while their still talking or standing there. And that would lead to a win for Itachi. Before they even battle.

dude it dosent matter how fast Raikage is, how can you physically dodge Genjutsu? It's not a physical attack. Genjutsu disrupts your chakra flow and etc. Moving your body isn't gonna do anything unless your outta the users sight.

dude just because Madara didn't use genjutsu on Minato dosent mean it dosent work. PAin didnt use Chibaku tensei in Konohamaru.......hmm i guess it dosent work, otherwise he would've used it. See how dumb that sounds lol. PLus Madara was controlling the fox at the time anyway.

 

[OWanime]

Actually Ftg level 2 is when yondaime transports ojects like the kyuubi ball somewhere far away so he's uninjured

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so yeah lol

 

[Hitoshi]

i mean lol not really im not a minato fan girl but i know he is a beast come on now all those are hypothizised you dont actually know if some can do that for sure cuz im pretty sure back in the day ppl tried it and it didnt wrok lmao you sleeping on minatos base speed on his kunai throwing speed cuz im sure if madara did what itachi did it would have been a raps and not only can he teleport to his kunai he can teleport and throw more and did you not remeber what the 3rd did to stop the 4hts coffin from coming up multi shadow shuriken?

so he can clone his kunai bro stop hating on greatness if he didnt die he would have been the sage of the six paths!

Sigh he didnt stop the 4th coffin and no he wouldn't become the next sage of six paths now that was a fanboy comment

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Ha! You mad?

Who was talking to you bruh? Stay out my way bitch.

 

[kadowade]

I don't think Looking at Itachi's feet gonna do you any good since he barely moves his feet.
FIghting an S-class/Kage class ninja as Itachi while ONLY looking at his feet, is gonna get you killed.

But Eye contact isn't necessary for all of Itachi's Genjutsu, he's done Genjutsu without using Eye contact sometimes. Anyway's all ninja looks into another ninja's eyes before battle. :lili:

Lol exactly

 

[Amantius]

Genjutsu does work on minato. But the sharingan prolly wouldn't be able to keep with him IF He's moving. BUT Someone Like Itachi Would use Genjutsu Before the fight, like while their still talking or standing there. And that would lead to a win for Itachi. Before they even battle.

dude it dosent matter how fast Raikage is, how can you physically dodge Genjutsu? It's not a physical attack. Genjutsu disrupts your chakra flow and etc. Moving your body isn't gonna do anything unless your outta the users sight.

dude just because Madara didn't use genjutsu on Minato dosent mean it dosent work. PAin didnt use Chibaku tensei in Konohamaru.......hmm i guess it dosent work, otherwise he would've used it. See how dumb that sounds lol. PLus Madara was controlling the fox at the time anyway.

to use gen jutsu they have to make eye contact in itachi and sasuke case- 2 minato knows about the uchiha's ability, he even spoke about it with naruto, so he is not that dumb to make contact and just because madara was controlling kyuuby don't mean sht Minato broke his control he had plenty of time to use it, secondly he could have done it while controlling kyuuby he has the ability 2. i never said it was a physical atttack either i said if sasuke "could" use it on the raikage at the time he would have" he did with danzo at the start of the battle did he not" and umm like Kakashi he knows when genjutsu is in effect-put x10 when it comes to talking about minato(he is kage rank) their not stupid as danzo to fall for that sht and not notice.(do he is kage rank i am sure he has gen jutsu of his own, since's he had the ability to make his own jutsu. i wanted to say one more thing not to you but to the owner of this thread, didn't minato use 2 shuriken and they turn in to chakra needle light's after they made contact? so how would itachi rapid throwing ability stop it?, just so you know without his sharingan he is useless your talking about Minato here /kage/x-anbu/genius/run in sight type of ninja, if gen jutsu was a flaw for him i am sure he would be death all ready seeing how other ninja's would have done it on him before they gave the the title of run in sight.(so idk what you guys talking about, the only thing he is going to see is a yellow light then KO)

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Dis is a useless thread. Ftg doesn't require handseals.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

to use gen jutsu they have to make eye contact in itachi and sasuke case- 2 minato knows about the uchiha's ability, he even spoke about it with naruto, so he is not that dumb to make contact and just because madara was controlling kyuuby don't mean sht Minato broke his control he had plenty of time to use it, secondly he could have done it while controlling kyuuby he has the ability 2. i never said it was a physical atttack either i said if sasuke "could" use it on the raikage at the time he would have" he did with danzo at the start of the battle did he not" and umm like Kakashi he knows when genjutsu is in effect-put x10 when it comes to talking about minato(he is kage rank) their not stupid as danzo to fall for that sht and not notice.(do he is kage rank i am sure he has gen jutsu of his own, since's he had the ability to make his own jutsu. i wanted to say one more thing not to you but to the owner of this thread, didn't minato use 2 shuriken and they turn in to chakra needle light's after they made contact? so how would itachi rapid throwing ability stop it?, just so you know without his sharingan he is useless your talking about Minato here /kage/x-anbu/genius/run in sight type of ninja, if gen jutsu was a flaw for him i am sure he would be death all ready seeing how other ninja's would have done it on him before they gave the the title of run in sight.(so idk what you guys talking about, the only thing he is going to see is a yellow light then KO)

Exactly! Though I personally believe Itachi cud defeat Minato with Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu.

 

[Minato Uchiha]

well, first, kunai are much larger, so it would impossible to throw that many at any given time.

No, Minato isn't faster than Itachi. Itachi's hand seal speed, and weapon throwing skills are highly praised, in addition to that he has the Sharingan.

that's why I said you need a defense like Chidori Nagashi, to defend yourself and thwart him off when he nears you.

Teleporting requires chakra, Minato can't teleport indefinitely. Teleporting requires hand seals, you can't teleport and throw several kunai at the same time

it doesn't require chakra. no hand seals.

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[kadowade]

to use gen jutsu they have to make eye contact in itachi and sasuke case- 2 minato knows about the uchiha's ability, he even spoke about it with naruto, so he is not that dumb to make contact and just because madara was controlling kyuuby don't mean sht Minato broke his control he had plenty of time to use it, secondly he could have done it while controlling kyuuby he has the ability 2. i never said it was a physical atttack either i said if sasuke "could" use it on the raikage at the time he would have" he did with danzo at the start of the battle did he not" and umm like Kakashi he knows when genjutsu is in effect-put x10 when it comes to talking about minato(he is kage rank) their not stupid as danzo to fall for that sht and not notice.(do he is kage rank i am sure he has gen jutsu of his own, since's he had the ability to make his own jutsu. i wanted to say one more thing not to you but to the owner of this thread, didn't minato use 2 shuriken and they turn in to chakra needle light's after they made contact? so how would itachi rapid throwing ability stop it?, just so you know without his sharingan he is useless your talking about Minato here /kage/x-anbu/genius/run in sight type of ninja, if gen jutsu was a flaw for him i am sure he would be death all ready seeing how other ninja's would have done it on him before they gave the the title of run in sight.(so idk what you guys talking about, the only thing he is going to see is a yellow light then KO)

First off The reason it would be pointless for Sasuke to use Genjutsu on Danzou is because DAnzou has 10 SHARINGANS to let him know. PLus sasuke used a stupid Genjutsu (Bringing ITachi back) Which obviously convinced Danzou that it was a Genjutsu.

And of course Kakashi would know he's in a Genjutsu HE HAS A SHARINGAN!!! Minato dosen't, so how would minato know he's in a Genjutsu. The only way Minato would know is if Itachi make some stupid shit happen, like make everything around him green and change the battlefeild completley. Then of course Minato would know. BUt ITachi dosent change the surrounding of his Genjutsu, He makes everything seem Normal. So you will be unaware that you're in a Genjutsu.

ANd all Genjutsu dosent require Eye contact. Itachi clearly said to Naruto "I can cast Genjutsu, even if i have 1 finger" ITachi can just point at you, OR look in his eyes Or use crows like he did on NAruto, and like he did to Sasuke before their battle.

This is how Itachi works in battles. He puts you in Genjutsu BEFORE THEY FIGHT

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

Who was talking to you bruh? Stay out my way bitch.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get in the "way" of a minato fanboy,who is mad. Saying " stay out of my way bitch". Calm down.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Genjutsu does work on minato. But the sharingan prolly wouldn't be able to keep with him IF He's moving. BUT Someone Like Itachi Would use Genjutsu Before the fight, like while their still talking or standing there. And that would lead to a win for Itachi. Before they even battle.

dude it dosent matter how fast Raikage is, how can you physically dodge Genjutsu? It's not a physical attack. Genjutsu disrupts your chakra flow and etc. Moving your body isn't gonna do anything unless your outta the users sight.

dude just because Madara didn't use genjutsu on Minato dosent mean it dosent work. PAin didnt use Chibaku tensei in Konohamaru.......hmm i guess it dosent work, otherwise he would've used it. See how dumb that sounds lol. PLus Madara was controlling the fox at the time anyway.

This is is quite possibly the dumbest comparison to try and prove a point in narutobase history.What purpose would using Chibaku Tensei accomplished in pain battled with konoha shinobis? Pain had a reason for the way he fought when he was in Konoha, Madara goal was different and using genjutsu would have made madara fight with the 4th easier, so why didn't he.Just in comparison, Itachi always seem to used genjutsu first when he fight because it he believes it a more efficient way of fighting.

 

[kadowade]

This is is quite possibly the dumbest comparison to try and prove a point in narutobase history.What purpose would using Chibaku Tensei accomplished in pain battled with konoha shinobis? Pain had a reason for the way he fought when he was in Konoha, Madara goal was different and using genjutsu would have made madara fight with the 4th easier, so why didn't he.Just in comparison, Itachi always seem to used genjutsu first when he fight because it he believes it a more efficient way of fighting.

Madara was only stalling time. And who knows if he could control the 9 tails, ANd use Genjutsu on minato at the same time. Which he probably couldn't. It should be a hassle just trying to control the 9 tails, let alone another person at the same time.