Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

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nagato's mobility is his weakness don't use it as an excuse he just does not have that much speed or movements but however is strong, stop using mobility as an excuse its something he lacks, ppl are not crying over itachi's eye degrading when he uses it and how it affects his stamina should ppl blame itachi's stamina and wish he had more no, there are certain things characters are weak in and for nagato its mobility and he is not sick did u not see what kishi said he is "complete" not sick and useless. and ur saying summons are gonna stop itachi one amaterasu and they were down not to mention itachi's techs are faster like sword of totsuka and also has the option of genjutsu like tsukiyomi but nagato also does have a godd shot at this cos of chibaku tensei, shinra tensei but itachi is more tactical than nagato giving him the slight edge.

what are you talking about itachi tech are not even faster than a shinra tensa
also i said lets even talk about the sick and crippleness because someone wants to say people are crying over nagato being cripple so im saying let's bring that up then,so what am i crying about
itachi amerteraus will get sucked up by the preta path
again itachi chances of winning is no more 20% don't give that smart startegy crap because nagato is smart himself and is more experience in fights with upper classmen
all jutsu itachi uses are almost practically rendered useless
the only jutsu that you say is tsykuyomi but pain shows immunity to the genjutsu

reason number one he decieves jairaiya in killing his bodies but actually brings one of his bodies to sneak behind jairaiya while he was in the genjutsu
(nagato mind and chakra is strong so genjutsu is basically useless since he has mastery of his chakra)
don't say kakashi has mastery of his chakra he clearly doesn't but knows how much jutsu he can use a day=meaning he knows how much chakra a tech will take from him, he hasn't mastered his chakra.

do you know why a perfect jinchurikki renders all genjutsu useless is because the strong chakra from that tailed beast is able to distrupt chakra from his host= nagato has mastery of his chakra clearly shown by him using the six path of pain chakra recieving rods and him being able to control people with his chakra.

no matter how much you want to say itachi has a upper hand he clearly doesn't susanno= absorbed,amerterasu= absorbed,tsykuyomi= clearly pain will get out.

this should be clear already but i know someone won't even bother taking it in and say some random bs.
 

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what are you talking about itachi tech are not even faster than a shinra tensa
also i said lets even talk about the sick and crippleness because someone wants to say people are crying over nagato being cripple so im saying let's bring that up then,so what am i crying about
itachi amerteraus will get sucked up by the preta path
again itachi chances of winning is no more 20% don't give that smart startegy crap because nagato is smart himself and is more experience in fights with upper classmen
all jutsu itachi uses are almost practically rendered useless
the only jutsu that you say is tsykuyomi but pain shows immunity to the genjutsu

reason number one he decieves jairaiya in killing his bodies but actually brings one of his bodies to sneak behind jairaiya while he was in the genjutsu
(nagato mind and chakra is strong so genjutsu is basically useless since he has mastery of his chakra)
don't say kakashi has mastery of his chakra he clearly doesn't but knows how much jutsu he can use a day=meaning he knows how much chakra a tech will take from him, he hasn't mastered his chakra.

do you know why a perfect jinchurikki renders all genjutsu useless is because the strong chakra from that tailed beast is able to distrupt chakra from his host= nagato has mastery of his chakra clearly shown by him using the six path of pain chakra recieving rods and him being able to control people with his chakra.

no matter how much you want to say itachi has a upper hand he clearly doesn't susanno= absorbed,amerterasu= absorbed,tsykuyomi= clearly pain will get out.

this should be clear already but i know someone won't even bother taking it in and say some random bs.

Agreed with what you said except the 20% part. Nagto is strong but am sure Itachi chance of winning is much higher then 20%.
 

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nagato is plain stronger than itachi, its that simple.
 

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i agree with you but if they werer to vs each other sombody has to lose and itachi is smarter so im guessing itachi would win and hes faster and stronger
 

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what are you talking about itachi tech are not even faster than a shinra tensa
also i said lets even talk about the sick and crippleness because someone wants to say people are crying over nagato being cripple so im saying let's bring that up then,so what am i crying about
itachi amerteraus will get sucked up by the preta path
again itachi chances of winning is no more 20% don't give that smart startegy crap because nagato is smart himself and is more experience in fights with upper classmen
all jutsu itachi uses are almost practically rendered useless
the only jutsu that you say is tsykuyomi but pain shows immunity to the genjutsu

reason number one he decieves jairaiya in killing his bodies but actually brings one of his bodies to sneak behind jairaiya while he was in the genjutsu
(nagato mind and chakra is strong so genjutsu is basically useless since he has mastery of his chakra)
don't say kakashi has mastery of his chakra he clearly doesn't but knows how much jutsu he can use a day=meaning he knows how much chakra a tech will take from him, he hasn't mastered his chakra.

do you know why a perfect jinchurikki renders all genjutsu useless is because the strong chakra from that tailed beast is able to distrupt chakra from his host= nagato has mastery of his chakra clearly shown by him using the six path of pain chakra recieving rods and him being able to control people with his chakra.

no matter how much you want to say itachi has a upper hand he clearly doesn't susanno= absorbed,amerterasu= absorbed,tsykuyomi= clearly pain will get out.

this should be clear already but i know someone won't even bother taking it in and say some random bs.

clearly pain would get out of genjutsu are you kidding me man, nagato has not shown any resistance to genjutsu his paths have been caught and smarts don't matter you clearly have not seen powerful characters losing to smarter ninja. And shinra tensei has a time limit what is he gonna do about sword of totsuka that can get him and nagato lacks mobility all the more reason itachi can get him with that and six paths are his own source of chakra not someone else like a biju and what has it been said about itachi's tsukiyomi its said that only flesh and blood can break it so no nagato can't clearly break out of it and neither can he dodge the sword and nagato has to be close to absorb itachi's sussano and since itachi has the speed advantage he can maintain his distance. And 20% what are you kishi we can't exactly measure what percent he has chances except give rough estimates. And kakashi shas told that tsukiyomi can't be broken easily by just disrupting chakra. nagato has his shots but itachi has speed over him(meaning that he can't absorb susano and if he tries to come close he would get sealed), he has genjutsu over him(show me where he says he is resistant to genjutsu and jiraya clearly proves that wrong right there and kakashi also says that u can't get out of it by simply pouring in chakra) and can seal him, nagato can win cos of with his use of chibaku tensei, summoninings and shinra tensei but itachi has higher chances IMO for reasons stated above.
 

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look your not actually proving anything because itachi had the help of 2 jinchurriki to do what he did alright
im sorry but you should atleast figure out that his susanno long range attack is not going to take down that dense ball but with tailed beast level strength and a susanno long range it can stop the jutsu

nagato has flight it wouldn't matter if he was crippled because of his gravity and animal summons.

i didn't bring up nagato lackof mobility
but just look at this a sick nagato or a crippled itachi who would you chose

atleast itachi has good mobility which his sickness was affecting him in but nagato mobility has been affected severly

I proved a point. You still haven't acknowledge that Itachi discovered a weakness for Nagato attack in seconds. I didn't say he took it out but discovered the weakness. I hear you, but show me where in the manga it states one long range attack can't take out that 'dense ball'. The fact is you can't, it's not stated that it can be or it can't be, so you are assuming it would take all three attacks to take it out.

Itachi disease effect him more than Nagato crippled effected Nagato, he (Nagato) lacked mobility, where Itachi lacked in speed/stamina and chakra.

Go read a topic here, it has quite some good evidence backing up Itachi's disease:

 

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I just want to add to ReLax -'s point. Itachi figured out the weakness by himself.

Rinnegan weakness.

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Itachi already knows what the "sphere" is for.

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I don't see Naruto being of any help, especially since Itachi is the one who figured out the technique, it's weakness and take into consideration, the fact that it's his first time seeing it.

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look your not actually proving anything because itachi had the help of 2 jinchurriki to do what he did alright
im sorry but you should atleast figure out that his susanno long range attack is not going to take down that dense ball but with tailed beast level strength and a susanno long range it can stop the jutsu

nagato has flight it wouldn't matter if he was crippled because of his gravity and animal summons.

i didn't bring up nagato lackof mobility
but just look at this a sick nagato or a crippled itachi who would you chose

atleast itachi has good mobility which his sickness was affecting him in but nagato mobility has been affected severly

You don't even know the capabilities of Itachi's new attack yet you are assuming it's weak. It's is PROBABLY in the same scale and rank as Chibaku Tensei and Naruto's Rasenshuriken and Bee's Tailed-Beast Bomb.

Give credit where it's due just as Kishi, the creator of the manga, did more than twice.

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And will you Nagato fans stop bitching about how he's weaker in his own body. Just look at what Naruto says;

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Just incase you guys can't read; he's saying that Nagato's speed and attack are better :) than before. I guess you can stop using that excuse now.
 
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Yup Nagato is Physically stronger than Itachi.
But Itachi beats him in A battle.

lol
nagato is constantly shown to be physically weak, but his rinnegan will afford him a win any time against itachi.
 

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lol
nagato is constantly shown to be physically weak, but his rinnegan will afford him a win any time against itachi.

Did that happen? I must have missed it because I was busy reading the recent chapters where the unstoppable Rinnegan was defeated by a MS user. Oh and I didn't even mention that the certain MS user managed to find the weakness of Rinnegan in seconds.

Damn Rinnegan, Y U SO STRONG?
 

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I just want to add to ReLax -'s point. Itachi figured out the weakness by himself.

Rinnegan weakness.

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Itachi already knows what the "sphere" is for.

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I don't see Naruto being of any help, especially since Itachi is the one who figured out the technique, it's weakness and take into consideration, the fact that it's his first time seeing it.

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You don't even know the capabilities of Itachi's new attack yet you are assuming it's weak. It's is PROBABLY in the same scale and rank as Chibaku Tensei and Naruto's Rasenshuriken and Bee's Tailed-Beast Bomb.

Give credit where it's due just as Kishi, the creator of the manga, did more than twice.

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And will you Nagato fans stop bitching about how he's weaker in his own body. Just look at what Naruto says;

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Just incase you guys can't read; he's saying that Nagato's speed and attack are better :) than before. I guess you can stop using that excuse now.

lol u basically contradicted urself he did get younger and physically stronger but the 1 where kabuto says his movements wer dull thats coz he was still cripple did u notice that he basically never moved from the spot hhe was burned
 

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lol u basically contradicted urself he did get younger and physically stronger but the 1 where kabuto says his movements wer dull thats coz he was still cripple did u notice that he basically never moved from the spot hhe was burned

I never mentioned the part about Kabuto talking about Nagato's bad mobility.

Nagato always had mobility issues so that's nothing new. Fact is, the Edo version of him was faster and stronger than his previous 6 bodies. Do you even know what contradicting is?
 

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clearly pain would get out of genjutsu are you kidding me man, nagato has not shown any resistance to genjutsu his paths have been caught and smarts don't matter you clearly have not seen powerful characters losing to smarter ninja. And shinra tensei has a time limit what is he gonna do about sword of totsuka that can get him and nagato lacks mobility all the more reason itachi can get him with that and six paths are his own source of chakra not someone else like a biju and what has it been said about itachi's tsukiyomi its said that only flesh and blood can break it so no nagato can't clearly break out of it and neither can he dodge the sword and nagato has to be close to absorb itachi's sussano and since itachi has the speed advantage he can maintain his distance. And 20% what are you kishi we can't exactly measure what percent he has chances except give rough estimates. And kakashi shas told that tsukiyomi can't be broken easily by just disrupting chakra. nagato has his shots but itachi has speed over him(meaning that he can't absorb susano and if he tries to come close he would get sealed), he has genjutsu over him(show me where he says he is resistant to genjutsu and jiraya clearly proves that wrong right there and kakashi also says that u can't get out of it by simply pouring in chakra) and can seal him, nagato can win cos of with his use of chibaku tensei, summoninings and shinra tensei but itachi has higher chances IMO for reasons stated above.

not going to bother because your not listening to what im saying and putting it in a different way.
who said the six path were to disrupt chakra, (understand what i said before just posting that i said that the six path were different chakra sources) when i clearly didn't say that
 

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I proved a point. You still haven't acknowledge that Itachi discovered a weakness for Nagato attack in seconds. I didn't say he took it out but discovered the weakness. I hear you, but show me where in the manga it states one long range attack can't take out that 'dense ball'. The fact is you can't, it's not stated that it can be or it can't be, so you are assuming it would take all three attacks to take it out.

Itachi disease effect him more than Nagato crippled effected Nagato, he (Nagato) lacked mobility, where Itachi lacked in speed/stamina and chakra.

Go read a topic here, it has quite some good evidence backing up Itachi's disease:

i kow what you're saying and i acknowledge what itachi did bt he only did that because nagato is going against the other 2 naruto and bee

when itachi asked for all 3 of them to help them so that he can destroy it, it is because he knows when he's in tight situation he needs help so he asked them for help.
now some of you guys would of asked why wouldn't he when naruto and bee were with him
relize how strong the dense ball is and he analizes the situation and then says lets atttack it with our strongest attacks meaning he knew his own attack won't stop.
 

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I proved a point. You still haven't acknowledge that Itachi discovered a weakness for Nagato attack in seconds. I didn't say he took it out but discovered the weakness. I hear you, but show me where in the manga it states one long range attack can't take out that 'dense ball'. The fact is you can't, it's not stated that it can be or it can't be, so you are assuming it would take all three attacks to take it out.

Itachi disease effect him more than Nagato crippled effected Nagato, he (Nagato) lacked mobility, where Itachi lacked in speed/stamina and chakra.

Go read a topic here, it has quite some good evidence backing up Itachi's disease:


The fact is douchebag is that a crippled guy being controlled by a noob would of killed/captured all of them without them helping each other.Being controlled majorly effects your strength the 3rd hokage as a old man was able to beat the 1st and 2nd hokage so get real
 

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Nagato is not over rated but just overpowered because absorbing jutsus is just too much... any ways I don't think you can compare them either because they are too different and each of their skills clash with one anothers so :S
 

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I never mentioned the part about Kabuto talking about Nagato's bad mobility.

Nagato always had mobility issues so that's nothing new. Fact is, the Edo version of him was faster and stronger than his previous 6 bodies. Do you even know what contradicting is?

u showed the page where he said btw im done wit this thread
 
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