Personal Views: Your thoughts on Religion

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Professor Sarutobi

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I'll say this once, and this is aiming for all those that have a belief in them, one of which believes we are all created by God.

Don't argue with Athiests, they are lost, most of them are deaf blind and dumb, they would rather believe that things happen by an impossible chance (the reason for the big bang, the reason for evolution, the complete Randomness of the reason for natural selection) I can go on and on and on, but they will always refused that god exists until the day they are questioned.

Let me tell you what these people WILL say. "You never showed us the way", "you never told us", "how could have I known", "you never gave us enough proof".
God will point out the 100000000 of proof of his existence.

They would live their entire lives trying to drag people down into the level they are, because they are lonely and lost. What makes it hard on them with all the fake smart talk (idiots assume science belongs to athiesim) they don't even realize how lost they are.

They live a life where seeing is believing, so as long as we can't see god he CAN'T be real.
Yet we believe in the theory of Evolution...funny none of this theory has been proven in anyway or form as real, and there is a huge difference between adaptation and evolution.

Even if god comes into our very limited dimension/realm or whatever u want to call it, doing great miracles, these same people who asked for proof will DENY him, it would be "a god would have been taller", "he would have been the size of an ant", "he would have had 4 eyes", "he wouldn't need any eyes", "he would be green..", they would deny his all his miracles the same way they denied all the prophets and their miracles. "ah it's magic", "it's an illusion", "it's Photoshop'd"....

When a religious person points out a wonder of the natural world and believes it was because god wanted to show us, these religious people are called idiots by Athiest who happen to be far bigger idiots because they seem to think it's all by chance, its natural selection. due to some wind we get the waves...etc but never really asked how on earth did this perfectly n synced so called Natural selection come to be oO.. No No, you can argue with logic, logic of as long as we don't know what caused it then it all happened by chance. It's a much better logic then a supreme being.

who created god seems to be in a lot of athiests head... no matter how often you repeat it they just don't have the mental capability to comprehend and understand.
Since god doesn't come form the same Dimension/realm, people have to remember, god is the creator of life, death, matter, time, probability. and Anything your little mind can think of. It's all his creation, nothing came by chance.
So the concept of time doesn't work on god, as he came from a supreme dimension/realm. We are very limited, because we have been given a limited set of tools to help comprehend and understand things, but if something comes along that cant be analyzed within this limited tool box, we shouldn't deny it, but athiests do :/

for the Athiests that claim to have read the Bible and Quran.......
I can give you a book, written in latin letters but a language you don't understand a word of, you read from cover to cover. Does that really mean you've read and understood ANYTHING?
well this is the same thing, Far more intelligent Humans have spent their entire lifetime studying and learning these books just to fully understand it and never accomplished that, yet somehow magically someone far less intelligent does this in a few hours?
If these books made no sense and is nothing but a laughing stock, why are so many people entering Islam (I'm pointing this out because I'm Muslim, but this argument can work with Christians as well). Are the all idiots? mentally disabled? easily influenced? yet those who lose their religion and/or decide to just believe in a few men's writings are the intelligent ones?

Let me clarify this to you athiests, it is not us the followers of the Abrahamic religions that are people blindly following man written religions, it is YOU that are following man written religions in Darwanisim and the likes! so don't mistake your stupidity with us.

Last thing...
apparently you're an evolved animal, why don't you just get back into the jungle, live in a cave or hole while we people who believe in religion who also believe is the value of socializing and being a part of society because..WE ARE NOT ANIMALS stay in our cities/towns and what not.

While you're hiding in your cave, say hi to your close friends Hitler and Stalin, who btw to an athiest have done NOTHING wrong. If these is no god, no judgement then there is no consequence. Hell why don't we all run in a rampage for no real reason! and who is to judge what I've done wrong after that?
I don't know what to tell you athiests. Either open you damn closed eyes and learn to accept what your (and our) simple minds that will ALWAYS be limited be. Or get back in the jungle and de evolution back into monkeys and leave society to those who value it far more.

To those with religion in them. We are all different, most of us (Muslims, Christians, Jews) believe in the same god and believe we are extracted from the same religions (Abrahamic). But we are different and there is no doubt about it. We will always be different, we may live side by side, have our children play together, love each other, respect one another. We will also always be in war with one another, this is reality. What matters to me is that at least we believe in the Supreme being, may it be "Allah" or "God", you can try and teach a lost Athiest only if he/she is willing to learn and is willing to open their eyes. but it's rare, an athiest is only an athiest because he's so blinded that the only light that can help show him/her the way is his own light. So don't waste your time with them.
So much bull in one wall of text xd

Only 2 things I find funny enough to comment on, natural SELECTION isn't RANDOM, if it was it wouldn't be selection, survival of the fittest (or at least it used to be)

And if u want atheists to leave the cities then u can feel free to stop using the medicine atheist doctors discovered and pray ur cancers and disease away.
 

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I could write soooo much, but to make it short.
I don't not believe in god and any kind of other religion, for me it's pure bull.
But that's just my opinion.

And don't get my wrong, I totally respect religous people,
but they are taking it too far most of the time. Most of them just want you to believe the same thing they do, and if you don't want to; You're an Idiot.

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I believe in nothing, I'm an atheistic existentialist. I think that life has meaning, but it isn't made by someone floating around up there, it is what we make of it. Through living our lives, we find something to base our lives on, and that gives us our "Raison d'Etre" if you will. Even if that reason is the thought or idea of God, whatever makes you feel safe and secure in your life is no problem to me. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong. If you feel you have the right to tell another person the answer to a question human beings cannot yet fathom, you are the wrong one. I don't care what you believe in, you could believe in a purple elephant that speaks to you at night. As long as you don't try and push it on other people, or allow others to see their point of view, I am alright with you...
 

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Well now its my turn to talk...finally.

I have read pretty much everything up to this point and have come to understand a lot of people's view on religion. However there are a few errors which I see that keep getting made which really tick me off. Shall I start?

Point 1: This is a discussion on our personal views on religion. That is the aim of the conversation. Trying to argue which side is right or has more proof is only inviting to an endless loop of "relative truth." If you can not discuss this matter objectively with an open mind then, IMO, you shouldn't even bother posting here and you will only incur negative responses. [Sorry if I offended anyone with that but that was my opinion. JUST an opinion.] Including propaganda-like videos or religious texts, is considered in my book, as imposing your beliefs or way of thinking which I find offensive. I understand we come here to learn but just don't shove it down my throat please.U_U

Point 2: My beliefs are a conglomeration of the essential things I believe every human being or that of an intelligent conscience should follow: Respect and love. Every law in the entire world at least mentions these two to some extent or context. Love begets Respect begets Love, so forth and so forth.

Point 3: Everything I know in this world is subjective truth. That is an unchangeable fact that NO ONE can avoid. Every person has their perception of reality and truth.

Ex. You believe the Devil is evil but I just think of it as someone who thought differently and made a different choice.

Ex. An apple falls from the sky. I say it fell from the apple tree by the law of gravity. You say it was God who made it fall from heaven.
 

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man.. ur thread is not looking for the answer, but u want to tell everyone ur thought... it's ok then... but if u want the truth.. find it by ur heart.. not just use ur logic... u have soul that u can't see but it's exist... u have your heart....

what exactly is your point man?

What you believe is what you are thought to believe......if you are thought that red is blue then you will think red is blue, if you are thought creationism is right then it is if you are thought otherwise then thats what youll think.......I dont really see the harm in religion in my life if its false then i will die and thats it,but if it is real then i'll go to heaven.....covering my ass from both ends....
I do understand that you believe in something that is taught to you in your early years of your life... but I also believe that as we grow we find some things that contradicts our beliefs... then we learn to weigh... so as far as im concern I still believe that we dont stick to something that was just being taught to us ... we believe in something because we chose to...

and yes there's no harm in religion....(Im a Christian)

but there are things I'm sticking with - "RESPECT and REASON" that's the very rule human has that differentiate them from other species..that's my belief. :)
 

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what exactly is your point man?



I do understand that you believe in something that is taught to you in your early years of your life... but I also believe that as we grow we find some things that contradicts our beliefs... then we learn to weigh... so as far as im concern I still believe that we dont stick to something that was just being taught to us ... we believe in something because we chose to...

and yes there's no harm in religion....(Im a Christian)

but there are things I'm sticking with - "RESPECT and REASON" that's the very rule human has that differentiate them from other species..that's my belief. :)
i agree.. dont follow what you have been told. Search ffor truth your self.
BTW i'm a muslim and i have never once find something contradicting in the holy book that i follow.. :p
 

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Religion is brainwashing but i do believe there is a god. I also believe there is more to existance then what religion is telling us. People cling to religion too much, the religious authority use fear to control the masses and tell them "u need to do this,this and this or burn in hell forever" and they start doing so when u´re a kid so u grow up with it, never questioning it or don´t dare for that matter, u then try to convince yourself that it must the the truth and u become scared of the possibility of it being a lie all along, that u´ve been living a lie, religion causes alot of problems for us but i thank it for teaching me lessons and making me into who i am today.
 
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Religion is brainwashing but i do believe there is a god. I also believe there is more to existance then what religion is telling us. People cling to religion too much, the religious authority use fear to control the masses and tell them "u need to do this,this and this or burn in hell forever"
that's one thing i guess....(you need to do this and that)

that' why people need to weigh things more...

Then you should get over the fact that My respect for Religion is below 0.
yeah... I did not tell you to believe in something at the first place...

so yeah.. I respect that... xd
 
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that's one thing i guess....(you need to do this and that)

that' why people need to weigh things more...



yeah... I did not tell you to believe in something at the first place...

so yeah.. I respect that... xd
U become weak,dependent,fearful and unable to do critical thinking, religion does however have 1 thing that i think makes up for most of its drawbacks and it is unity.......it brings people together.
 

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Then you should get over the fact that My respect for Religion is below 0.
We r not forcin u too accept our believes or anythin u dont have respect for religions fine it doesnt matter ..:rolleyes:
I respect religion n to me it means everythin ;) and also i respect every other belief too becos we cant force any one too alter their believes :p
 

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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"

~Epicurus​
 

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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"

~Epicurus​

To me...
Its just test for us God gave us free will so that we choose whats rit n wrong for us
this world is just an examination Hall this life is Question Paper syllabus is already given too us as religious scripture and when the time ends we all will have results in our hands
Simple ^^..
 

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again:



look at morgans last words

''You can not write a book basically telling a bunch of people around the world, billions of people, who believe in a god you are all wrong and by the way I dont have any explanation.''

thats what pisses me off, we never said you cant write books about god or religion, we never complain about anything but the fact that you ensist to make us believe, I dont give a sh?t about religion, sorry but I CAN say that, if you can say Ill burn in hell if im an atheist than I can say things too otherwise its not fair

and we DO HAVE explanations, SCIENCE backs us up with actual PROOFS unlike you

I have nothing against any belief but you have no right to have anything aginst us either or we will conterargue

new:

you know you always get pissed at us when we try to argue against religion let alone bash it a bit, but why the hell can you tell us we are wrong

I believe condaming someone to ''hell'' for not believing in your religion is still much worse in the moral sense than our opinion about religion

I know noone ever condamned anyone but you all still think its true otherwise you arent really religious are you?

why is it wrong for us to tell OUR opinion of it as we DO have the freedom of speech just like you you it is insulting to you but many things are insulting to us also but we dont really give a cr?p do we its the way you think and if you find it offensive thats ok too but dont tell us we cant state our opinion

At Faizan you know you trying to ''convert'' us pisses us up but many still try ''for the good of us''
and at the dude who was talking about open mindedness: dont tell us we dont have an open mind since we accept all scientific proof even if it proves us wrong as a matter of fact we like that because we find out a new thing and at least we arent stuck on one way of thinking all our lives



P.S. one q, who here is comforted by believing he will live for an eternity in heaven after this life?





I back you up 100% Noctural!!
 
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