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i might not agree with religion, but its important europe and america keep christian identity, otherwise the jews will use this as an oppurtunity to break down social barriers to take over. i believe in one religion countries, mulit religious countries have never worked and should never work.
 

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i might not agree with religion, but its important europe and america keep christian identity, otherwise the jews will use this as an oppurtunity to break down social barriers to take over. i believe in one religion countries, mulit religious countries have never worked and should never work.
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Ok then, so you dont have an aswer to how everything is created so because of your lack of knowledge you are giving it to a higher autority above us.
I do not "believe" in what the media feeds me, I racionalize things properly and give them sense, I act via facts that have been proven. I do not stick with 100% with theories, as they may be incorrect.
So I may ask you this, who designed this supreme autority that you are talking about? Where did it come from?
Answer is simple, created by humanity.
Do not call weak minded someone who doesnt believe instantaniously in what a book says, you are just contradicting yourself. By not believing in god, people try to racionalize and find the answer instead of accepting what religion gives you. Weak minded are the ones who accept god as their creator without even thinking racionally and becuase they do not have an answer, they created god.

Humanity is scared of the unknown, if they do not have the answer, they create some to satisfy their igorant feelings.

You're wrong, very wrong. First God created a human. If you think that people invented God, than tell me who "invented" the peoples?
I know that he exist not because I just read it but because I feel it, I didn't believe without a reason, it was about a friend of mine. He was sick with a special disease and sometimes he lost control of himself and he didn't know who I was or any of the friends around him but that lasted only for 1-2 minutes, then he was normal again, one day he was in a bad state... All of us were upset about him, one of my friends cried, I didn't but I went to him and I thought:"Will he die? What if I'll die, where will I go.... To hell, that's where I would", then I thought again " I must believe in God, (not because a lot of my friends did since I could've believed earlier but because for the first time I understood that I was nothing without God and that I would have gone to hell, for the first time I really believed in his existence)" so you understand my friend that believing in God has to do with having faith in God, that He is true, without seeing him.
 
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You're wrong, very wrong. First God created a human. If you think that people invented God, than tell me who "invented" the peoples?
I know that he exist not because I just read it but because I feel it, I didn't believe without a reason, it was about a friend of mine. He was sick with a special disease and sometimes he lost control of himself and he didn't know who I was or any of the friends around him but that lasted only for 1-2 minutes, then he was normal again, one day he was in a bad state... All of us were upset about him, one of my friends cried, I didn't but I went to him and I thought:"Will he die? What if I'll die, where will I go.... To hell, that's where I would", then I thought again " I must believe in God, (not because a lot of my friends did since I could've believed earlier but because for the first time I understood that I was nothing without God and that I would have gone to hell, for the first time I really believed in his existence)" so you understand my friend that believing in God has to do with having faith in God, that He is true, without seeing him.
Humans are the result of evolution.
I am sure you are old enough to know how babies are born,and what procedure is followed in order for that to happen.
Starting from 1 cell,multiplying several times,slowly but gradually creating a person.
That is how the first "edition" of human was created,just a microorganism that was presented the best possible environment and grew,from mono cellular to multi cellular.

And what does that have to do with anything?
You just told us he is sick,I was expecting some fairytale about him going to church and that stopping.
If that was the case,you may think "Woah,God did it!"
Well let me ask you,do you know how many people die every day?
In Africa alone the death toll is around 150 k every single day,what does your God do about those people?
And don't tell me "If they died then God thinks that is for the best",these people are more innocent and younger,they have only known pain their lives,do they deserve death?
And your friend is a person who has lived,he knows what a home is,he knows what running water means,he doesn't have to starve to death every single day,his problem is the least important.
 

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Humans are the result of evolution.
I am sure you are old enough to know how babies are born,and what procedure is followed in order for that to happen.
Starting from 1 cell,multiplying several times,slowly but gradually creating a person.
That is how the first "edition" of human was created,just a microorganism that was presented the best possible environment and grew,from mono cellular to multi cellular.

And what does that have to do with anything?
You just told us he is sick,I was expecting some fairytale about him going to church and that stopping.
If that was the case,you may think "Woah,God did it!"
Well let me ask you,do you know how many people die every day?
In Africa alone the death toll is around 150 k every single day,what does your God do about those people?
And don't tell me "If they died then God thinks that is for the best",these people are more innocent and younger,they have only known pain their lives,do they deserve death?
And your friend is a person who has lived,he knows what a home is,he knows what running water means,he doesn't have to starve to death every single day,his problem is the least important.
if the world was perfect there wouldnt be any need for compassion, suffering and disaster will bring out the best in humans.
there is enough resources, food and water to go round, its just not distributed evenly.

why is there some american guy eating 100 burgers a month, whereas people in africa have to recook garbaged food.
 

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Humans are the result of evolution.
I am sure you are old enough to know how babies are born,and what procedure is followed in order for that to happen.
Starting from 1 cell,multiplying several times,slowly but gradually creating a person.
That is how the first "edition" of human was created,just a microorganism that was presented the best possible environment and grew,from mono cellular to multi cellular.

And what does that have to do with anything?
You just told us he is sick,I was expecting some fairytale about him going to church and that stopping.
If that was the case,you may think "Woah,God did it!"
Well let me ask you,do you know how many people die every day?
In Africa alone the death toll is around 150 k every single day,what does your God do about those people?
And don't tell me "If they died then God thinks that is for the best",these people are more innocent and younger,they have only known pain their lives,do they deserve death?
And your friend is a person who has lived,he knows what a home is,he knows what running water means,he doesn't have to starve to death every single day,his problem is the least important.
Yeah it's true, a lot of africans die today, they are suffering, starving... But tell me first why doesn't the human interferes in order to change the situation? God created everything on Earth for the humans and told him that the man would take care of this Earth! Well tell me now, where's the human who doesn't help the africans? The human, who is investing in the destruction of the creation You're asking why doesn't God interferes? Don't make the humans look so innocent, they are killing a lot of animals leading to minimize of their number, day-by-day, destroying forest, killing soldiers for international affairs. Where's the human, who was given authority by God to rule the Earth? It's true those africans are innocent and believe me God cares about them. But blame the colonies that still exist in Africa, taking everything from them. God gave you a mind on how to act, he made everything ready for you (Earth), then you destroy it and then you blame God for not helping the africans, when you can change everything... The cause that they're dying is only one... Humans! And you don't have an Idea how it was to see my friend in a state like that, to see him suffering, it's easy to say when you don't experience!
 
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hey.....God excist but I wont try to make anyone believe that because even if I do that its only God that open your minds......If you want to belive do it,if you dont told you its your choise......just a man without religion doesnt have worth at others
 

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well your in for a endless wait my friend, you speak about no evidence and proof but yet this evidence is right around you, but you fail to see or is it that you are ignorant of this fact. you are like a baby born in a modern house full of complex resources specifically design to assist its needs, but yet failed to rationalize how could this house came to be if someone/thing had not intended it? did it just appear by itself? of course not, thats impossible, that my friend is applying logic (the proof is already present), the evidence is the complex engineering of world around us. humans are naturally curios thus we always try to find the answer/reason for everything and anything, therefore we come up with far-fetched theories and state it as a fact, to satisfy our own curiosity, as a result we get blinded from the truth that was right in front of us from day 1.

anyway you are entitled to your own opinion thus i will not continue to argue you down.
You logic is illogical. Lets make an example:
There is a sandwich in the middle of the table, and 20 people in the room.
Your logic says "That one right there" even though you do not have enough evidence to do so. You are assuming because he looks more of a sandwhich creator than others.
Scientist do not point fingers yet, they look for evidence to identify the creator of the sandwhich.

i might not agree with religion, but its important europe and america keep christian identity, otherwise the jews will use this as an oppurtunity to break down social barriers to take over. i believe in one religion countries, mulit religious countries have never worked and should never work.
WTH WTF?

You're wrong, very wrong. First God created a human. If you think that people invented God, than tell me who "invented" the peoples?
I know that he exist not because I just read it but because I feel it, I didn't believe without a reason, it was about a friend of mine. He was sick with a special disease and sometimes he lost control of himself and he didn't know who I was or any of the friends around him but that lasted only for 1-2 minutes, then he was normal again, one day he was in a bad state... All of us were upset about him, one of my friends cried, I didn't but I went to him and I thought:"Will he die? What if I'll die, where will I go.... To hell, that's where I would", then I thought again " I must believe in God, (not because a lot of my friends did since I could've believed earlier but because for the first time I understood that I was nothing without God and that I would have gone to hell, for the first time I really believed in his existence)" so you understand my friend that believing in God has to do with having faith in God, that He is true, without seeing him.
What does being sick and god have in relation?
Believing does not cure you from anything, but actual medicine does.
If your friend was in some poor African country, he would not stand a change.
And don't give me "god put him in this place to be able to be cure" kind of deal, because that is illogical.

if the world was perfect there wouldnt be any need for compassion, suffering and disaster will bring out the best in humans.
there is enough resources, food and water to go round, its just not distributed evenly.

why is there some american guy eating 100 burgers a month, whereas people in africa have to recook garbaged food.
So you are telling us that god lets million of people die in a year just to test us in compassion? WHat kind of sick bastard would do that?
In your view, he is the scientist and we are the guinea pigs that are being tested.

Just curious, is that your only reason for not believing in God?
Believe is a word used by people that cannot thing in his own, look at the facts, and use logic.
 

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You logic is illogical. Lets make an example:
There is a sandwich in the middle of the table, and 20 people in the room.
Your logic says "That one right there" even though you do not have enough evidence to do so. You are assuming because he looks more of a sandwhich creator than others.
Scientist do not point fingers yet, they look for evidence to identify the creator of the sandwhich.



WTH WTF?



What does being sick and god have in relation?
Believing does not cure you from anything, but actual medicine does.
If your friend was in some poor African country, he would not stand a change.
And don't give me "god put him in this place to be able to be cure" kind of deal, because that is illogical.



So you are telling us that god lets million of people die in a year just to test us in compassion? WHat kind of sick bastard would do that?
In your view, he is the scientist and we are the guinea pigs that are being tested.



Believe is a word used by people that cannot thing in his own, look at the facts, and use logic.
Believing actually cures more than every medicine, you regret for what you did and you'll live forever along-side him, in the afterlife of course... And don't tell me what God can do or not, my friend was saved because that was God's will because God wanted to happen that way.

Believe is a word used by people that cannot thing in his own, look at the facts, and use logic.
Sorry if I'm wrong but if you are an atheist, then your what you believe is all expressed in here

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Believing actually cures more than every medicine, you regret for what you did and you'll live forever along-side him, in the afterlife of course... And don't tell me what God can do or not, my friend was saved because that was God's will because God wanted to happen that way.
Your right, having faith that you will be cured helps dramatically the brain to proccess information differently, thus helping recovery faster.
god is not involve in anything what so ever.

Sorry if I'm wrong but if you are an atheist, then your what you believe is all expressed in here

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Using Flaw's image?

Wrong, atheism is not a belief. Atheism stands in using in facts already proven, but they do not have a certain explaination in how the Earth was created.
So no, atheist do not believe that the earth came from nothing, because there is no explanation yet.
In contrary with the people who believe in god, and just ignore completly what comon sense tells to follow a book created by man.
So tell me, where does your god come from? From Nothing?
 
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Believing actually cures more than every medicine, you regret for what you did and you'll live forever along-side him, in the afterlife of course... And don't tell me what God can do or not, my friend was saved because that was God's will because God wanted to happen that way.



Sorry if I'm wrong but if you are an atheist, then your what you believe is all expressed in here

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The whole point of being an Atheist is that you don't believe in anything.

And it doesn't,anything you have heard of people taking demons out of people and stuff are lies.

I`ll tell you an anecdote.

In a small village near the coastline,the sea level rises,all homes slowly get flooded.
In a house lives a man,he is religious,he goes on the roof and prays to God to save him.
A boat passes,the man on the boat says "Here,come on,I`ll give you a lift",the man looks at him and says "No,God will save me".
Half an hour passes,the level of the water is higher,he is 1 level higher on the roof now.A ship appears,the captain says to him "Hey,come up,I`ll help you",the man denies and says "No,God will save me".
1 hour passes,the sea level is critical,his whole body is in the water,his head is sticking out.
A helicopter appears,the pilot says to him "Climb up the ladder,I will save you",the man looks at him and says "No,God will save me".
After half an hour,the man dies.He goes to see God in Heaven,and says "God,why didn't you save me?",God looks at him and says "Are you kidding me? I sent you a boat,a ship and a fricking Helicopter,what else could you ever want?"
 
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Nope.
I don't believe in God because there is no proof of him.
I wasn't referring to you, but maybe you don't see any proof because you haven't really looked in the right direction. It's also possible you already convinced yourself there's no God based on some corrupt religions or the fact there's too many bibles out there to understand which is right. I don't know your background & i'm not going to judge you. Take note for example one of the prophecies i showed #431.



I showed this same prophecy in a different website/thread, the best someone could say is that Israel didn't become a nation in a single day. COMPLETELY ignoring what history showed, because they knew the bible i have was written in 1611 by inspired men of God (i don't use modern day bibles) with the prophecy pointing to 1948. Worse they ignored President Truman's signature of the events. If it didn't happen obviously Israel would never have been attacked on their 1st day of independence, think about it ^^'.

2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

I bring this verse up, because many people assume since the bible was written by man, it must mean there's no God. That's a common false misunderstanding.

At any rate when i revealed further proof, they went to name calling as their only option. Rather than be given proof, it lead me to believe they simply didn't want to believe in God.
 

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Your right, having faith that you will be cured helps dramatically the brain to proccess information differently, thus helping recovery faster.
god is not involve in anything what so ever.



Using Flaw's image?

Wrong, atheism is not a belief. Atheism stands in using in facts already proven, but they do not have a certain explaination in how the Earth was created.
So no, atheist do not believe that the earth came from nothing, because there is no explanation yet.
In contrary with the people who believe in god, and just ignore completly what comon sense tells to follow a book created by man.
So tell me, where does your god come from? From Nothing?
UxCxHxIxHxA you just dont get it do you, we have a soul so obviously there must be a higher plane which we ascend to, there must be something that created our soul.
we know we have a soul, look at platos theory of forms. humans can know things without actually knowing them, these thoughts are called abstract concepts. for example there could be too rulers, and a man might think that both rulers are equal, although both rulers cant be the same to the last atom. but we still have the concept of equality, which all humans understand, although it never existed. we all have an idea of beauty, although it doesnt exist, it has no basis in nature.

you sound like a person who worships the body, but the body can be wrong, our body can get things wrong, we can smell, see and hear things that are wrong, and be decieved. the soul is obviously a very real thing, and much more valuable than the body.
 

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So tell me, where does your god come from? From Nothing?
That, is what you believe... God existed, there was no beginning and no ending for Him, our mind can't think about these things since it's limited at some points.

The whole point of being an Atheist is that you don't believe in anything.

And it doesn't,anything you have heard of people taking demons out of people and stuff are lies.

I`ll tell you an anecdote.
Yeah I've heard that anecdote don't you get its point, God gave the human a mind but he didn't understand that God helped him and God helped him by sending a boat, a ship and a helicopter, God actually gave him 3 chances.

And no I haven't heard of people that take out demons nowadays but there were in ancient time, Jesus and his disciples but don't forget that the disciples took out the demons by the authority of Jesus.
 

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Wrong, atheism is not a belief. Atheism stands in using in facts already proven, but they do not have a certain explaination in how the Earth was created.
So no, atheist do not believe that the earth came from nothing, because there is no explanation yet.
In contrary with the people who believe in god, and just ignore completly what comon sense tells to follow a book created by man.
So tell me, where does your god come from? From Nothing?
This. ^^
+Rep for that.
 
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