itachi is still evil

[grand ray]

Madara, Izuna, Sasuke killed the persons closest to them (well techniqually Sasuke didn't kill Itachi but it was basically that way). We don't know about Kakashi (odds are he didn't), or Shisui (idk on that entirly) so most in that category have killed their closest person.

People defeat steriotypes, however we've only seen Itachi, and Shisui defeat such steriotypes in a clan of hundreds possibly so it's safe to say that the Uchihas still bare their hatred, even in death, for the Senju. Sasuke was a young child and everybody is innocent as a child so, no old Sasuke wasn't an exception. Sasuke inherited the same curse of the rest of the clan, hatred and revenge.

The concept of the Uchiha (from what has been explained) is that they were bred from hatred and they bare the "Curse of Hatred" (or something like that, can't remember the actual quote) as stated by Madara and it's always directed towards the obsession of higher power to usurp power and defeat the Senju.

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and it's time to end this so called "debate"

 

['Kurapika]

Madara, Izuna, Sasuke killed the persons closest to them (well techniqually Sasuke didn't kill Itachi but it was basically that way). We don't know about Kakashi (odds are he didn't), or Shisui (idk on that entirly) so most in that category have killed their closest person.

People defeat steriotypes, however we've only seen Itachi, and Shisui defeat such steriotypes in a clan of hundreds possibly so it's safe to say that the Uchihas still bare their hatred, even in death, for the Senju. Sasuke was a young child and everybody is innocent as a child so, no old Sasuke wasn't an exception. Sasuke inherited the same curse of the rest of the clan, hatred and revenge.

The concept of the Uchiha (from what has been explained) is that they were bred from hatred and they bare the "Curse of Hatred" (or something like that, can't remember the actual quote) as stated by Madara and it's always directed towards the obsession of higher power to usurp power and defeat the Senju.

i thought naruto was his best friend <and i thought itachi gave him the mangekyou "isn't that why it burned madara when they first met and didn't sasuke say that naruto was his best friend

you said every one is innocent as a child so why did itachi kill the children of the uchiha they could of grown up to become good shinobi

ok i take away the "evil" statment but i replace it with "dumb fool"

 

[TJ0001]

i thought naruto was his best friend <and i thought itachi gave him the mangekyou "isn't that why it burned madara when they first met and didn't sasuke say that naruto was his best friend

you said every one is innocent as a child so why did itachi kill the children of the uchiha they could of grown up to become good shinobi

ok i take away the "evil" statment but i replace it with "dumb fool"

if im not mistakin sasuke wanted/tried to kill naruto too.

 

[Reborn]

i thought naruto was his best friend <and i thought itachi gave him the mangekyou "isn't that why it burned madara when they first met and didn't sasuke say that naruto was his best friend

you said every one is innocent as a child so why did itachi kill the children of the uchiha they could of grown up to become good shinobi

ok i take away the "evil" statment but i replace it with "dumb fool"

Itachi did not give Sasuke Mangekyou, he simply sealed an affect of his own Mangekyou inside of Sasuke that would activate Ama when he saw Madara's. Sasuke awakened his Mangekyou after he killed Itachi because of the emotion he felt after killing him and finding out the truth.

Everybody in the Uchiha clan was once a child and the vast majority of them inherited the legacy of hatred. Look at how Sasuke turned out, it was a precaussion for future protection of the village.

You call Itachi a dumb fool? well what about Sasuke, who is helping the very man who is the source of his pain, and the reason Itach needed to assassinate his clan? Sasuke is the real fool. Itachi followed orders to prevent civil war, that is not a fool that is a hero, and a man who has what it takes to make the tough decisions.

 

['Kurapika]

if im not mistakin sasuke wanted/tried to kill naruto too.

yes he did and he did it to activate the mangekyou sharinga but he wasn't able to even though naruto was unconscious , but later on in shippuden he claimed he didn't kill naruto just because he didn't want to do thins itachi's way

 

[TJ0001]

Itachi did not give Sasuke Mangekyou, he simply sealed an affect of his own Mangekyou inside of Sasuke that would activate Ama when he saw Madara's. Sasuke awakened his Mangekyou after he killed Itachi because of the emotion he felt after killing him and finding out the truth.

Everybody in the Uchiha clan was once a child and the vast majority of them inherited the legacy of hatred. Look at how Sasuke turned out, it was a precaussion for future protection of the village.

You call Itachi a dumb fool? well what about Sasuke, who is helping the very man who is the source of his pain, and the reason Itach needed to assassinate his clan? Sasuke is the real fool. Itachi followed orders to prevent civil war, that is not a fool that is a hero, and a man who has what it takes to make the tough decisions.

i should read your posts alot more often! i totally agree XD. besides if anyone here is evil its sasuke. after madara told him the truth about itachi youd expect him to at LEAST honor the memory of his brother by going back to the leaf. i wonder if he even knows that hes just being madaras puppet right now

 

['Kurapika]

Itachi did not give Sasuke Mangekyou, he simply sealed an affect of his own Mangekyou inside of Sasuke that would activate Ama when he saw Madara's. Sasuke awakened his Mangekyou after he killed Itachi because of the emotion he felt after killing him and finding out the truth.

Everybody in the Uchiha clan was once a child and the vast majority of them inherited the legacy of hatred. Look at how Sasuke turned out, it was a precaussion for future protection of the village.

You call Itachi a dumb fool? well what about Sasuke, who is helping the very man who is the source of his pain, and the reason Itach needed to assassinate his clan? Sasuke is the real fool. Itachi followed orders to prevent civil war, that is not a fool that is a hero, and a man who has what it takes to make the tough decisions.

thanks for the info about sasuke's sharingan

about how sasuke turned out , he wasn't like that tell the influenced by madara and sometimes itachi if the uchiha kids had no corrupt fathers they would of turned out fine

and comparing itachi to sasuke doesn't change any thing i my self belive that sasuke is way worse than itachi
and i admire itachi being able to make hard decision i just don't think it was the right one

 

[-Kenshin-]

dear free shooter no offence but we seem to disagree on everything
i assure i mean no offence but please **** off

you know what man you have no right to talk to someone you dont know like that

 

['Kurapika]

i should read your posts alot more often! i totally agree XD. besides if anyone here is evil its sasuke. after madara told him the truth about itachi youd expect him to at LEAST honor the memory of his brother by going back to the leaf. i wonder if he even knows that hes just being madaras puppet right now

i think sasuke is worse than itachi a million times but i still don't think he is a puppet in madara's or at least he doesn't think so because i believe he is going against hi at the moment , but i think madara is ahead of him in that and knows what is in sasuke's mind

 

['Kurapika]

you know what man you have no right to talk to someone you dont know like that

i am very sorry but this was like the fourth time , and i'm even new here

 

[House]

i still think what itachi did is unforgivable if was in his situation i would try and talk both sides down and make peace or even stand aside and do nothing , but it's impossible to kill your dad and mom and all your tribe it's insane
and the uchiha had the right to have a hokage that's a uchiha , and to make sasuke so ****ed up like that , it's all itachi's fault , he is evil

but i still admire his cool personality :shrug:

Look at the big picture! What is better? Either a 20,000 man die or only 20? Go figure.

 

['Kurapika]

Look at the big picture! What is better? Either a 20,000 man die or only 20? Go figure.

but why did he kill the young one's and there is gotta be some good ninja between that uchiha why kill them as well

 

[House]

but why did he kill the young one's and there is gotta be some good ninja between that uchiha why kill them as well

Obviously, the young ones will want revenge.

 

['Kurapika]

Obviously, the young ones will want revenge.

revenge from who itachi he might be dead by then

 

[House]

revenge from who itachi he might be dead by then

But those kids will blame Konoha, because they let something like that happen, you see what I mean? Either way, they want revenge and that's going to be Konoha.

 

['Kurapika]

But those kids will blame Konoha, because they let something like that happen, you see what I mean? Either way, they want revenge and that's going to be Konoha.

this still is no reason to kill them killing their parints will buy kanoha atleast 20 years , and why would you think that sasuke only blamed itachi , plus they won't have as bad as a life as sasuke because they have each other , and maybe if they were told the truth from the beginning they would understand after all they are just kids

 

[Reborn]

thanks for the info about sasuke's sharingan

about how sasuke turned out , he wasn't like that tell the influenced by madara and sometimes itachi if the uchiha kids had no corrupt fathers they would of turned out fine

and comparing itachi to sasuke doesn't change any thing i my self belive that sasuke is way worse than itachi
and i admire itachi being able to make hard decision i just don't think it was the right one

Look at that statement right there. You said if they didn't have corupt fathers (don't single out mothers either, I've seen some dead beat mothers too) they wouldn't be corrupt, however like I said it all started corupt from the beginning starting with the Uchiha clan ancestor. Most of the Uchihas were corupt, meaning the children would've been corupt, based on your logic right there, and therefore would've risen up and rebelled. Attitude and personality can also be inherited by children, from their parents, and since children are imprsionable and are like sponges for their young life, they tend to copy what is around them and that is what moulds them....What you said right there just worked against you here.

Now, Itachi's father was the leader of the rebellion yet he didn't turn out evil, however Sasuke did. Like you said there are excepitons (I'm agreeing with you to the point there are exceptions but not a lot) however based on what you said, it can be assumed that it's very rare.

If kids inherit the behavior of their parents, generation after generation, and the first parent of the Uchihas was corrupt and passed it down generation, after generation, that shows how the clan will ultimatly come out in it's form, based on it's founding ancestor, and that one little statement you said worked for me in this argument.

 

['Kurapika]

Look at that statement right there. You said if they didn't have corupt fathers (don't single out mothers either, I've seen some dead beat mothers too) they wouldn't be corrupt, however like I said it all started corupt from the beginning starting with the Uchiha clan ancestor. Most of the Uchihas were corupt, meaning the children would've been corupt, based on your logic right there, and therefore would've risen up and rebelled. Attitude and personality can also be inherited by children, from their parents, and since children are imprsionable and are like sponges for their young life, they tend to copy what is around them and that is what moulds them....What you said right there just worked against you here.

Now, Itachi's father was the leader of the rebellion yet he didn't turn out evil, however Sasuke did. Like you said there are excepitons (I'm agreeing with you to the point there are exceptions but not a lot) however based on what you said, it can be assumed that it's very rare.

If kids inherit the behavior of their parents, generation after generation, and the first parent of the Uchihas was corrupt and passed it down generation, after generation, that shows how the clan will ultimatly come out in it's form, based on it's founding ancestor, and that one little statement you said worked for me in this argument.

i see that this discussion had came to a dead end so i am going to ask you a simple question
what would naruto or jiraiaya or the younger son of the sage would of done or even the past hokages ?
i doubt they would do the same thing what has been then represents the uchiha's principles they should of been better then them and only kill who planned to kill

 

[Maina Deah]

Itachi is a good boy from the time being

 

['Kurapika]

Itachi is a good boy from the time being

oh my god itachi is a good boy as well , that's it i am just going to kill my self
but if change your mind ask kabotu to bring me back