okay, everyone else can't use he jutsu but once every 10 years, im sure shisui embedded his eye like that, his genjutsu wouldn't be that feared if it made an appearance once every 10 years he wasn't that old... and it never said it can make any command, and mifune is a samurai, and itachi wanted himself to be controlled, its his jutsu lol... And it never once says anywhere, that he can make an command he wants, *not saying he can't* and if two bijuu can't take on nagato, that are on the level of naruto and bee, then theres no way some anbu under danzos control is going to be able to defeat nagato. your a KA fanboy and way over hyping it, even if he shisui can put nagato in a genjutsu, all he has to do is do one summoning technique and its over shisui, he can't beat a summoning like that.
Shisui vs Nagato
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as Far as we know Shisui has a very powerful genjutsu, powerful enough to controll someone without them realising, but we dont know it can be used to kill or if they do some how realise it how easy/hard it is to break
When danzo used it on mifune,and the guy with the byakugan(cant remember the name) noticed the genjutsu and informed mifune the genjutsu seemed to of ended, Why diden't danzo get mifune to fight his corner?
Or does KA break asoon as the person notices they are under genjutsu?
Because i would think they would realise something is wrong after awhile, or if they try to kill them selfs or what ever he has them doing
When danzo used it on mifune,and the guy with the byakugan(cant remember the name) noticed the genjutsu and informed mifune the genjutsu seemed to of ended, Why diden't danzo get mifune to fight his corner?
Or does KA break asoon as the person notices they are under genjutsu?
Because i would think they would realise something is wrong after awhile, or if they try to kill them selfs or what ever he has them doing
wow itachi just said that it can control without the person even knowing and u just list the achievements of nagato its great but won't help him win. And if shisui put him in genjutsu how the hell is nagato gonna use summoning, no he would just die assuming shisui commanded that. Itachi was under edo's control no one broke it and even kabuto said there is only one genjiutsu that can beat even edo tensei(he didn't want to be free that is just bs ur making up)
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i am Ka fanboy no its just that u are a nagato fanboy and can't see him lose even when he does.
the victim does not notice ao was not the victim of the genjutsu so obviously not and in a 1v1 match if nagato gets caught in that he is pretty much done cos shisui can control the guy
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okay even Ao said that, and no where does it say it can be used for someone to kill themselves, Ao fought shisui and is still alive, so shisui genjutsu couldn't be that impressive if Ao lived to talka bout it, and whose to say he can just automatically put nagato into a genjutsu without nagato being able to make a move? what if nagato can break the genjutsu? it never said it couldn't be broken, your making a 1 sided arguement and making assumptions, Exactly but itachi made it to appear and use that genjutsu when his sharingan was shown, and it broke his edo tensei, *he said he never expected it to be used on him* and why would he want to be trapped and bound by edo tensei? hes going to stop edo tensei now *every technique has a weakness even KA, even Edo tensei* and no, your a KA shisui fanboy, someone we've never even seen in battle and couldn't even beat Ao, is supposed to beat nagato? no no no no no, it wont happen, if shisui was that beast mode, he would of been hokage... honestly i don't even like nagato, i don't dislike him, im just not a fan, but your making it sound like shisuis genjutsu is a gift from the SO6P lmao, even itachi asked naruto, *the one who actually beat pain the first time* how is he alive, and the only reason they won this last time is because of itachis sword, if genjutsu was definite way to defeat nagato, itachi would of used tsukuyomi at some point. Your making assumptions, adding your own hype to a ability, making it seem unbeatable when clearly, Ao is still very well alive and hes faced it. That sir, is a fanboy, and that sir, is what you are to shisui, a fanboy, and not only a fanboy, a fanboy to someone we've never even seen battle.
where does it say Ao was not the victim of the genjutsu? once again, making assumptions and adding your own bullshit to a story, being a fanboy cause let me guess, *if Ao was was mind controlled he would of been made to kill himself* lmao gtfo bro your all on bandwagon. It never says anywhere that a command as strong as kill yourself can be used by his eye, each time we've seen the commands its been very vague, like *make me the leader of the alliance* *protect konoha* not, kill your mom, your brother, your clan, oh yeah while your at it kill yourself... your just making shit up
he said control the other person without them noticing go read the chapter if u don't remember and if u did not kno that the jutsu was so good madara wanted it. And does it not say the victim does not even realize, and ao was not in genjutsu only mifune was the rest of the ppl were bot. You are such a nagatio fanoy and won't accept that he would lose shisui has the power with that jutsu to control others' mind so he can do pretty much any command he wants unless u don't understand what control means.
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how do u even kno that shisui used KA on ao no he probably did not this is the ultimate genjutsu you are making the assumption that it does not work and even jiraya got his paths in genjutsu and where does it say that the genjutsu does not work on nagato stop being such a fanboy it is a very strong genjutsu and it does have a weakness though which it can be used once in 10 years but when he does use it it breaks out of even edo tensei which no one really broke out of if nagato gets caught he loses dude. I don't hate nagato but how would he win if he uses that jutsu to control him. Stop calling me a fanboy according to these conditions shisui would most likely win becus of KA and you keep saying nagato would win when odds are he can't when he is controlled that sir is a true fanboy
i like how you switched up your whole lingo trying to be like me bra, its a cool story bra, jiraiya got his paths, not nagato bra, *Ao said he battled him, Ao knew the jutsu, He knew the effects, and Ao is still alive* thats a logical assumption, not *LOL SHISUI HAS GOOD GENJUTSU, HE DA GOD NINJA* no use trying to argue with a fanboy who rides the ****, im not just saying he couldn't beat nagato, he couldn't beat KB,kisame,kakuzu,sasori, itachi, jiraiya, orochimaru, danzou, minato, raikage, naruto, sasuke, shit i doubt he'd even beat kakashi, and im a kakashi fanboy, but im also a logical thinker, something you seem to lack, logic.
naruto fought against pain but its still alive does that mean pain is weak, naruto fought against itachi but is still alive does that mean itachi is weak, we don't kno what the situation is in that fight but seriously just becus someone doesn't die does not mean the guy is weak he is probably also like itachi who does not like to kill, The genjutsu is epic but has a major weakness once in ten years but u don't get that and u obviously lack logic becus u don't kno what a command or controlling someone is. Nagato is amazingly strong and would beat shisui if it were not for that jutsu.
a jutsu is not getting famous off a 10 year use, im sure shisui could of used it frequently, and your battle statements are irrelevant because i never said shisui was weak, he just won't beat the shinobi i listed, and we don't but he fought him, lived to talk about it, and it never said itachi doesn't like to kill, he killed nagato and orochimaru with no remorse what so every. And sure he can make a command, and he can control, but each time we've seen it, its been very vague, nothing major like kill yourself, kill someone else, and no, nagato would beat shisui even with that genjutsu, because that genjutsu does not ensure victory, because no jutsu ensures victory, nagato has alot of trump cards that shits on that genjutsu. Your just over rating him, over hyping him, so its a negative **** rider
that powerful jutsu can only be used once in a decade go read the manga, he might have other genjutsu which is similar but that one is something he can use only once a decade and that's its weakness and why can't nagato get caught with it, if he is basically controlled by shisui so nagato won't win. You can't win when u are controlled by others. how is commanding vague when he says protect konoha or when danzo used it on mifune to speak in favor of him, that is not vague, nagato would most likely get caught in this jutsu, nagato isn't resistant to genjutsu.
dude we don't kno how that fight even went down, we don't kno if he ven used that jutsu there. And shisui lived too, just becus u live against fighting someone does not mean they are not that strong. naruto lived against pain, naruto lived against itachi, oonoki lived against madara, that is the moost baseless argument ever becus we don't even kno the conditions of the fight, we don't kno what techs they used. that is not a good excuse that he can overcome KA.
you have to the most ignorant person i have ever seen on these forums people say facts to you and you literally abandon all logic and make your crap up its unbelievable wtf is wrong with you wtf are you
no thats not we could say sage naruto is better than pain but is that tru no its not pain would have owned him, but naruto still survived due to reasons and do u not get that KA is used once only every decade, so its very likely he did not use it on ao so stop making assumptions that shisui used KA on ao.
Izanami i don't even want to hear from u think nagato can beat everything that is there in the narutoverse even madara with ems and rinnegan and ems and even he wanted the eyes for KA, it definitely powerful and would likely work on nagato(never said he is resistant to genjutsu).