Itachi vs Pain

[deidara senpai]

pain has a better chance than nagato

nagato is stronger than itachi

pain is stronger than itachi

 

[PEIN is the answer]

i think u mean path not sage but yea ur right ppl think nagato is the so6p but he is way different than nagato becos he has uchiha and senju dna.

I don't think anyone thinks that I just simply say rinnengan is only known in 2 people and yeah it can use same powers. Nagato was not as skilled or knowledge as so6p but still has rinnegan and the power that comes with it And so6p is only person with uchia and senjustu blood cause he is creator of them

 

[kadowade]

You just made b s up you don't know I dont know if rinnegan immune to shaningan genjustu but the only thing we have to go one is so6p beat ten tails with the badest shenanigan ever And if he so weak against genjustu from shenanigan itachi would not need susano to save bee and naruto he would just tsyomi him instantly and waste no time since he so smart. I only said it's more Likly he has counters for shenanigan genjustu

itachi couldnt use Genjutsu on a EDO TENSEI, Because Kabuto already said ONly 1 Justu is strong enough to break Edo tensei control, and that is Shisui's Kotoamatsuki

And of course itachi's wasent gonna work on the reanimation jutsu (Edo tensei) Only shisui's is powerful enough to do that

 

[Ame no kage]

LMFAO "Tsukiyomi is easy to overcome in your opinion?" LOL

Sorry but its already stated and proven that the only way to counter Tsukiyomi is to Have an 3 tomoe sharingan with the same flesh and bloodline limit as Itachi, and then you have to stop your chakra. (Sasuke proved that already) And its stated in the manga already. Thats why itachi said "However this Jutsu is diffrent".

then you contradicted your self by saying there the same, genjutsu can be dispelled by stopping ones chakra flow, if you deny that then dont bring rubbish to the table

 

[Jokule67]

i am not arrogant and proad so i can admit itachi wud win by genjutsu. Its recently been made clear 2 me tht itachi has a handful of eyes linked directly 2 nagato. He can use any of them. Dispeling chakra wud not work cuz it akes a powerful surge 2 break and nagato will die cuz his other bodies will be motionless.


Itachi wins. Genjutsu is all powerful in narutoverse

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

No matter how right the assumption is,as long as it doesn't get clarified in manga,it's fallible.

 

[Ame no kage]

i am not arrogant and proad so i can admit itachi wud win by genjutsu. Its recently been made clear 2 me tht itachi has a handful of eyes linked directly 2 nagato. He can use any of them. Dispeling chakra wud not work cuz it akes a powerful surge 2 break and nagato will die cuz his other bodies will be motionless.


Itachi wins. Genjutsu is all powerful in narutoverse

ummm the fight is with the six paths of pain, and if nagato stops all chakra flow in his paths, you telling me he can cast genjutsu on dead motionless bodies? lol nice.

 

[arv993]

genjutsu is a category, but by no means are the same as in ability wise, for example, itachi's genjutsu works with eye contact, Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Singing which you were referring to is based on sound, as you can see there are differences, itachi's Tsukuyomi imo is easy to overcome, one only needs stop there chakra flow...nagato only needs to stop the chakra he is feeding to his path if its under itachis genjutsu, then re-feed it when its done. thus dispelling it.

kakashi says this illusion cannot be overcome by just having others pour chakra into you, he says this genjutsu is unlike any other. And the paths are have the same chakra as him they are not disturbing him and once nagato is under genjutsu the paths cannot move since they are under his control they just can't simply move around.

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[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

Overall,Nagato is superior to Itachi.But as long as he's vulnerable to genjutsu,Itachi can win.

 

[kadowade]

then you contradicted your self by saying there the same, genjutsu can be dispelled by stopping ones chakra flow, if you deny that then dont bring rubbish to the table

*sighs* When i say Genjutsu i mean Genjutsu, When i Say Tsukiyomi i mean Tsukiyomi. Itachi SAid "However this Jutsu is diffrent" For a Reason. Its already been proven in tha manga, Only a uchiha that posses a mastered Sharingan (3 Tomoe) and the same bloodline limt as Itachi can counter it.
SO you have to have all that PLUS you have to stop it normally. Now u get it?
watch episode 82 part 1 or read tha manga

 

[PEIN is the answer]

who said the sage of the six paths has a sharingan? imo think the sharingan came from the ten tail, its eyes resemble the sharingan opposed to the rinnegan, besides why would madara need the teen tails to use infinite Tsukuyomi which i might add bares the same resemblance of the ten tails eye.

No he did not have shenanigan but one of his 2 sons did

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

ummm the fight is with the six paths of pain, and if nagato stops all chakra flow in his paths, you telling me he can cast genjutsu on dead motionless bodies? lol nice.

If Nagato stops the chakra flow,how is he going to fight?

 

[Ame no kage]

kakashi says this illusion cannot be overcome by just having others pour chakra into you, he says this genjutsu is unlike any other. And the paths are have the same chakra as him they are not disturbing him and once nagato is under genjutsu the paths cannot move since they are under his control they just can't simply move around.

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gosh, im amazed you you missed the title of this thread, pain as for 6 paths of pain, nagato in his own right would pwn itachi.

 

[Ame no kage]

If Nagato stops the chakra flow,how is he going to fight?

he only needs to stop the chakra flow for one second, you act like he needs to stop the chakra flow for a long period of time and that itachis genjutsu continues to work with dead motionless bodies may it be for only 1 or a few seconds.

 

[Master Jiraiya]

he only needs to stop the chakra flow for one second, you act like he needs to stop the chakra flow for a long period of time and that itachis genjutsu continues to work with dead motionless bodies may it be for only 1 or a few seconds.

in itachi's genjutsu there is no use in stopping chakra flow and releasing it together...... it was already once been tried by naruto and failed....... and there is no chance for that when itachi is using MS.... in 1 sec nagato is flat

but the alternate is also true..... nagato using his rinnegan means itachi will be flat in 1 sec....


SO i go with a draw

 

[Jokule67]

he only needs to stop the chakra flow for one second, you act like he needs to stop the chakra flow for a long period of time and that itachis genjutsu continues to work with dead motionless bodies may it be for only 1 or a few seconds.

but the eyes of pain are linked 2 nagato brain. it all goes down 2 this.since genjutsu scrambles chakra and controls nerves, will chakra be scrambled in tht body or nagato himself since he is chakra source.

 

[arv993]

gosh, im amazed you you missed the title of this thread, pain as for 6 paths of pain, nagato in his own right would pwn itachi.

no i kkno this is both nagato and his paths but all i am saying is "if" nagato gets caught in genjutsu like tsukiyomi he can't control his paths they would just be dead bodies. the paths cannot move on their own and disrupt chakra.

 

[FizzyDrink]

I'd say that Pein wins, if not it's a tie. But with the six paths of pein, Itachi can only catch 1 at a time with tsukiyomi, so that is out of the question for him, and Susano'o's sword might seal some, but he would be out-numbered and would most likely run out of chakra before he sealed all of the paths. Not to mention the fact that all Pein has to do is chibaku tensei and it's over, Itachi only managed to escape that because he had the power of Naruto and Bee to help him. So I say Pein in an epic battle.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

*sighs* When i say Genjutsu i mean Genjutsu, When i Say Tsukiyomi i mean Tsukiyomi. Itachi SAid "However this Jutsu is diffrent" For a Reason. Its already been proven in tha manga, Only a uchiha that posses a mastered Sharingan (3 Tomoe) and the same bloodline limt as Itachi can counter it.
SO you have to have all that PLUS you have to stop it normally. Now u get it?
watch episode 82 part 1 or read tha manga

My bad I thought rinnegan was most powerful dojustu but kadowade says shenanigan is absolute and unbeatable gimme a break if that the case uchias would rule the world they don't in fact there's only 2 left genjustu is easyest thing to counter in naruto tsyomi is not easy to stop but if any one can it's a rinnengan user

 

[MinatoFLASH]

he can put nagato in genjutsu, and its over cos he is the one who controls everyone but we can't be sure if itachi's genjutsu works or not.

How can he put Nagato in a genjutsu? He is facing Pain