Itachi's Strength

[makinow kitomi]

madara was fighting minato and hasn't used any genjutsu.
Madara had never fought using genjutsu,just s/t ninjutsu.
In order to actually lose against hashirama,it's obvious that he wasn't using all his strength in the battle.

And i honestly believe that itachi could one-shot all the first three hokages simultaneously.

as long as the hokage are within itachi's field of view, the amaterasu will burn spontaneously appear on all three of them. Neither of the hokage have shown speed feats that are comparable to that of raikage of minato, so they are not avoiding amaterasu

in conclusion, itachi wins the fight as soon as he opens his eyes.

u fanboys need to stop makin up s***. I meen come on dude

we know what the 1st is capable of and we only 10% of his techs
we know what madara is capable of and he was respected and feared as best/strongest of the uchiha. all this bs about madara have no genjutsu is tipical for u itachi fanboy.he faught aginst the 1st countless time and his eyes sufferd from it. He got ems and still loss to the first.

Itachi has no stat on his resume to propel him over them two and dont get me started on minato. The only things we now about itachi is that he killed his hole village with the help of madara and posabley shisu. And his easy going on his brother.

Itachi has acomplish anything that can eclips what madara, the 1st, minato, or the other nation's kages.

Itachi is a great shinobi for wat he has acomplished right now
so comes

no your role itachi fandudes an shut your mouth​

 

[makinow kitomi]

we have seen itachi fight we know what his abilties are, he showcased basiclly all them against sasuke. But we havent even seen guys like hasihrama or the 2nd hokage fight. its goes both ways even jiraiya we only saw him fight twice, once against pain and once again when he was posised by tsuande.

1)but we do know hasihrama defeated madara(ems) and the mere fact the senju fought the uchiha many times clearly shows he had means to fight and defeat an uchiha. He was labelled as the best in his time, uchiha madara said this, what more proof do you need.

Oh by the way hasihrama did defeat madara(who uses very strong genjutsu) and the fox.

2) i feel if we get into the jiraiya auguement this thread would go another 60 pages. All that needs to said about this is that jiraiya was trying to train naruto in breaking genjutsu by discrupting your own chakra that does work even on tuksikmo as we saw with bee.we dont need to say anymore than that. Leave this guys, nither jiraiya or itachi fanboys will wins this bout. It would have been intresting if nagato used genjutsu to see what jiraiya reaction is, funny enough he ended up using genjutsu instead.


Just qucik thing i noticed,

if people are going to think just becuase you have sharingan that means you win any 1v1 fight, thats just retarded. We have been proven time and time again that the sharingan is beatable, hasihrama being the best example x2.


genjutsu isnt unbeatable, people need to get this out of your heads.

there's been nothing shown to be unbeatable in the series in general.

thats right tell this itachi-lov-dudes what the dilio is

 

[Dregaur]

Yes he's powerful... but there are alot of other Ninja's out there that can beat him. He's not that powerful... Madara, Hashirama Senju, Minato Namikaze, Sasuke, Jiraiya, there are others too.

 

[Volcmike]

We may not know all his abilities but his abilities are good enough to laugh off most of Itachi's jutsu. Suiton>katon. He is a master suiton user. Space-time ninjutsu, regardless of how it works, will bypass amaterasu and will make it impossible to Itachi's susano'o to be effective. The only weapon Itachi has left is tsukuyomi. However, in a no knowledge scenario, tsukuyomi is just as dangerous as space-time ninjutsu. Without knowledge, he could teleport and slice Itachi's head with a kunai.



I call bullshit. He never held back against Kakashi. He used all his base jutsu, the same ones he did agains Kirabi and they all failed. Then, he proceeded to use MS just like he did against Kirabi when he was an edo. So, we know for sure he was not holding back.



Funny you forget the part where he tells Kisame to kill Asume and Kurenai



We have seen him at full strength against Kirabi.



I disagree. Minato could defeat Itachi easy. All his basic ninjutsu are low tier and easy to evade. Amaterasu and susano'o are too slow. Minato moves too fast for Itachi to genjutsu him. Tsukuyomi requires eye contact. Itachi with no knowledge of hiraishin has NO CHANCE AT ALL against Minato. Minato would just teleport and kill him.



Bullshit bro. The sharingan cannot follow Minato when he moves in his dimensional void. See the fight with Madara. Minato shitted on the sharingan. You guys overrate the sharingan movement prediction. Remember how A blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on? What about Kirabi? Blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on.



Hashirama would have ZERO difficulty against Itachi. Stop overrating the kid. Itachi's basic jutsu is shit as we know (Kakashi and Kirabi both dealt with him). Now, Hashirama, though we know little about his arsenal shits on Itachi's MS. We know he can regenerate (Madara and Zetsu have his cells and regenerate. Plus his clone in Madara's cave grows limbs). With regenerative powers, he would laugh off amaterasu. We know he could use tajuu kage bunshin. As Kakashi demonstrated against Itachi, genjutsu does not work on bunshin. Tsukuyomi is useless. Itachi only has susano'o left but susano'o will kill him if he uses it too much. Plus, with the power of several bijuu behind him, shodai could just have them fire bijuu daama against susano'o to destroy it. Itachi could never beat shodai

Hmmmmm!

 

[Volcmike]

We may not know all his abilities but his abilities are good enough to laugh off most of Itachi's jutsu. Suiton>katon. He is a master suiton user. Space-time ninjutsu, regardless of how it works, will bypass amaterasu and will make it impossible to Itachi's susano'o to be effective. The only weapon Itachi has left is tsukuyomi. However, in a no knowledge scenario, tsukuyomi is just as dangerous as space-time ninjutsu. Without knowledge, he could teleport and slice Itachi's head with a kunai.



I call bullshit. He never held back against Kakashi. He used all his base jutsu, the same ones he did agains Kirabi and they all failed. Then, he proceeded to use MS just like he did against Kirabi when he was an edo. So, we know for sure he was not holding back.



Funny you forget the part where he tells Kisame to kill Asume and Kurenai



We have seen him at full strength against Kirabi.



I disagree. Minato could defeat Itachi easy. All his basic ninjutsu are low tier and easy to evade. Amaterasu and susano'o are too slow. Minato moves too fast for Itachi to genjutsu him. Tsukuyomi requires eye contact. Itachi with no knowledge of hiraishin has NO CHANCE AT ALL against Minato. Minato would just teleport and kill him.



Bullshit bro. The sharingan cannot follow Minato when he moves in his dimensional void. See the fight with Madara. Minato shitted on the sharingan. You guys overrate the sharingan movement prediction. Remember how A blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on? What about Kirabi? Blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on.



Hashirama would have ZERO difficulty against Itachi. Stop overrating the kid. Itachi's basic jutsu is shit as we know (Kakashi and Kirabi both dealt with him). Now, Hashirama, though we know little about his arsenal shits on Itachi's MS. We know he can regenerate (Madara and Zetsu have his cells and regenerate. Plus his clone in Madara's cave grows limbs). With regenerative powers, he would laugh off amaterasu. We know he could use tajuu kage bunshin. As Kakashi demonstrated against Itachi, genjutsu does not work on bunshin. Tsukuyomi is useless. Itachi only has susano'o left but susano'o will kill him if he uses it too much. Plus, with the power of several bijuu behind him, shodai could just have them fire bijuu daama against susano'o to destroy it. Itachi could never beat shodai

First madara didn't hold back against the first to get his power he was beaten three times by the first one of the times made him lose sight of the shiringan second itachi said that if he and kisame fought jaryiah they all would have died so what makes u think he would have beaten the fourth and don't forget that the fourth hokage has a seal jutsu that protects him from genjutsu

ST*U

that is the dumbest ish i ever heard in my life your about to make me get banned omg

MADARA NEVER USED GENJUTSU ON THE 4TH CUZ ITS POINT LESS HE WILL NEVER MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM SO HE COULDNT SAME WITH THE OTHER KAGES YOU STUPID FANBOYS DONT GET IT HIS TSUKYOMI ISNT ONE HIT DAMN LIKE I SAID YOU EXCLUDE THE FACT THAT WEAK ASS SASUKE BROKE IT AND SAY ITS UNSTOPPABLE NO ITS NOT IF SNAKE SASUKE BROKE IT DAMN NEAR ANY ONE ELSE CAN

Plus pein saild that jariha would have defeated him if he new all the secrets of the six path

and if j-man could have defeated pain pain rapes itachi and if all you fanboys say itachi can beat all three previous kages your saying j-man can beat all preivous kages you retards!
God this has to be the dumbest most fanboyish thread i have seen in my life you state no facts all you can say is genjutsu and its over cuz most kages if not all can run away from itachis best move which it is his best move cuz heused it last suosono its so lame i know kishi is gonna give sasuke so new powers cuz susono is wack its not even that tight with out the sword and all you fanboys know it his ultimate genjutsu isnt even the best shisuis is lmao thats the sad thing his genjutsu can and always be broken and you cant tell its never been broken and yeah he got kakashi back in the day whos not to say kakashi could break it now??

Do we know that no nobody knows cuz itachi got merked by his bro end of story and he got beat by snake sasuke thats sad......

ok plz tell me how they dont have you seen any of them being caught in a genjutsu???

And do you know any of the first abilities besides wood style??

THANK YOU DUDE YOUR THE ONLY ONE I HAVE SEEN IN THIS THREAD WITH A LITTLE COMMON SENSE AND IS NOT A FANBOY

Genjutsu isnt unbeatable, people need to get this out of your heads.
JUST CUZ THIS

We are constantly suprised by how many moves ahead itachi is all the time not only is he powerful he is increadably smart. He has every situation already planned. That's why I think he could win almost any fight.

And btw kadowade^ I so love watching itachi own sasuke over and over on your banner!! lol xD

any one can break the non eye contact one if snake sasuke can break tsukoyomi so shut that down playboi your fan boy genjutsu wont work on me so no itachi is weak and would never in his right mind even dare challenge any of the prievious kage and its funny how you only wrote back to that and not any of the pure facts i was talking about turning a blind eye to how weak itachi is

how are we surprised?? Im not at all cool he put an eye in naruto along time ago whatever cool he got merked by snale sasuke ms sasuke would merk itachi

u fanboys need to stop makin up s***. I meen come on dude

we know what the 1st is capable of and we only 10% of his techs
we know what madara is capable of and he was respected and feared as best/strongest of the uchiha. all this bs about madara have no genjutsu is tipical for u itachi fanboy.he faught aginst the 1st countless time and his eyes sufferd from it. He got ems and still loss to the first.

Itachi has no stat on his resume to propel him over them two and dont get me started on minato. The only things we now about itachi is that he killed his hole village with the help of madara and posabley shisu. And his easy going on his brother.

Itachi has acomplish anything that can eclips what madara, the 1st, minato, or the other nation's kages.

Itachi is a great shinobi for wat he has acomplished right now
so comes

no your role itachi fandudes an shut your mouth​

thats right tell this itachi-lov-dudes what the dilio is

Yes he's powerful... but there are alot of other Ninja's out there that can beat him. He's not that powerful... Madara, Hashirama Senju, Minato Namikaze, Sasuke, Jiraiya, there are others too.

I see... This is very interesting.... what do you guys think?

 

[makinow kitomi]

I agree Itachi is strong so Itachi vs Minato Itachi's tsukuyomi ends in 1 sec FTG i think ends in 1 sec too so who atack's first(wins),1st hokage vs Itachi(sounds funny) hashirama was able to beat madara EMS + kyuubi so how Itachi with MS would be able to beat Hashirama someone tell me ?? 2nd hokage vs Itachi we dont know much about him, 2nd hokage has created edo tensei and is a pro on water techs and is the brother of a legendary ninja Hashirama I think hes strong lets go with a draw,3rd hokage on his old age would been defeated by Itachi(he would catch him on tsukuyomi) but if 3rd hokage would be young idk what too say i never saw him fighting at young age but sussano'o with totsuka andyata is invencible so this draw or Itachi wins or 3rd hokage wins if he was strong because some ppl say young is stronger, when ur young u dont know that much techs as u know on old age maybe more stamina but worse strategy worse techs idk i go for draw,tsunade i dont have too talk....everyone knows who win,so Itachi is really really strong as he can compare with great hokages with great names in all shinobi history and Itachi is very strong not fan boys or whatever....

Com on be real. minato beat Madara 1 second striking him 3 times if u includ
the release of the 9 tails. COM ON COM ON COM ON

 

[Kinimaster]

I see... This is very interesting.... what do you guys think?

I think that as many Itachi fans there are a lot of haters who dont like how popular he is, obviously Minato, Nagato, Naruto and Jiraiya fans wouldnt like Itachi to be hyped as better than than their favourites characters, both sides are wrong, there is no posible knowleadge about what could happen in a hipothetical Itachi vs Minato fight, we just know their attributes and weaknesses. Not how a specific battle between two character that level could go.

 

[Nidaimerocks]

I think that as many Itachi fans there are a lot of haters who dont like how popular he is, obviously Minato, Nagato, Naruto and Jiraiya fans wouldnt like Itachi to be hyped as better than than their favourites characters, both sides are wrong, there is no posible knowleadge about what could happen in a hipothetical Itachi vs Minato fight, we just know their attributes and weaknesses. Not how a specific battle between two character that level could go.

Only Kishi knows how a hypothetical fight between any two characters would go. However, we can make common sense assumptions based on the things he has revealed. What bothers me with Itachi fans is that in assessing Itachi, they simply choose to forget other characters' powers. Itachi is no doubt strong but when people think that there are no counters to amaterasu and genjutsu, I don't have to be a hater to tell them they are wrong

 

[bajram]

Com on be real. minato beat Madara 1 second striking him 3 times if u includ
the release of the 9 tails. COM ON COM ON COM ON

COME ON be real that was madara not Itachi and madara wasn't strong like he was vs hashirama so tsukyomi ends in 1 sec if Minato get caught by it he's dead or he has any power to resist genjutsu-.- anyway if he atack first with FTG in 1 sec Itachi is dead ill still say that is who atack first wins there is no time for death raper seal or whatever is minato's strongest tech and susano'o Itachi's strongest tech so is tsukuyomi vs FTG i told draw or idk this is my opinion...

 

[bajram]

SO much Itachi haters cuz everyone who fighted him got pwned so the point of this thread is too look Itachi weak? wich one of the kages could be able to endurate koto amatsukami tell me and for someone who compare tsunade to Itachi u must be stupid nooob fukc u Itachi haters i hope u all burn in hell haha

 

[Kinimaster]

Only Kishi knows how a hypothetical fight between any two characters would go. However, we can make common sense assumptions based on the things he has revealed. What bothers me with Itachi fans is that in assessing Itachi, they simply choose to forget other characters' powers. Itachi is no doubt strong but when people think that there are no counters to amaterasu and genjutsu, I don't have to be a hater to tell them they are wrong

There are ways to make your point, there are guys that say: "F*** S**** Itachi is not strong he is weaker than Minato blablabla you f***in fanboy!", i mean if you lose your composure when making a point, you lose total credibility and objectivity. So you should say for example something like: "I think Itachi is overall better than Minato, because of blabla etc, but i would never know who would win in a fight between them, because they both are in the top level of greatness, it would come on who outsmarts the other". Or otherwise for people who thinks Minato is a better overall ninja.

 

[Nidaimerocks]

COME ON be real that was madara not Itachi and madara wasn't strong like he was vs hashirama so tsukyomi ends in 1 sec if Minato get caught by it he's dead or he has any power to resist genjutsu-.- anyway if he atack first with FTG in 1 sec Itachi is dead ill still say that is who atack first wins there is no time for death raper seal or whatever is minato's strongest tech and susano'o Itachi's strongest tech so is tsukuyomi vs FTG i told draw or idk this is my opinion...

the problem is that tsukuyomi requires eye contact. Without eye contact, Itachi can't activate it. Characters who are too fast are difficult to lock eyes with. Look at Sasuke vs. Raikage. That is the ONLY fight he had in Part II where he could not use sharingan genjutsu. Raikage moves so fast, Sasuke never locked eyes with him

Minato would defeat Itachi because Itachi will never get a chance to lock eyes with him and cast tsukuyomi

There are ways to make your point, there are guys that say: "F*** S**** Itachi is not strong he is weaker than Minato blablabla you f***in fanboy!", i mean if you lose your composure when making a point, you lose total credibility and objectivity. So you should say for example something like: "I think Itachi is overall better than Minato, because of blabla etc, but i would never know who would win in a fight between them, because they both are in the top level of greatness, it would come on who outsmarts the other". Or otherwise for people who thinks Minato is a better overall ninja.

I have never been guilty of saying "F*** S**** Itachi is not strong he is weaker than Minato blablabla you f***in fanboy!". I always provide manga evidence for my beliefs. However, when I wrote a thread on why I think Madara is superior to Itachi in genjutsu, even though I used the manga to support my case, Itachi fans attacked me instead of attacking my evidence. Having been a member of other Naruto forums, it seems to me that Itachi fans on this forum are more vitriolic than other fandoms

 

[Kinimaster]

the problem is that tsukuyomi requires eye contact. Without eye contact, Itachi can't activate it. Characters who are too fast are difficult to lock eyes with. Look at Sasuke vs. Raikage. That is the ONLY fight he had in Part II where he could not use sharingan genjutsu. Raikage moves so fast, Sasuke never locked eyes with him

Minato would defeat Itachi because Itachi will never get a chance to lock eyes with him and cast tsukuyomi



I have never been guilty of saying "F*** S**** Itachi is not strong he is weaker than Minato blablabla you f***in fanboy!". I always provide manga evidence for my beliefs. However, when I wrote a thread on why I think Madara is superior to Itachi in genjutsu, even though I used the manga to support my case, Itachi fans attacked me instead of attacking my evidence. Having been a member of other Naruto forums, it seems to me that Itachi fans on this forum are more vitriolic than other fandoms

The problem is that every character has fans(obviously the best, the most), and i wasnt talking to you in particular when i wrote my post, If you think Madara is superior in genjutsu thats good(although at least to me the manga hasnt showed that, since i havent seen any of Madaras MS abilities, but nonetheless im not going to attack you for saying so), discusions are started to try to make people agree on a point or just create a debate, there are people who just cant do that due their lack of vocabulary, because they are stubborn, lack knowledge, etc... very common on kids and lower age members on any forum. Itachi has always been my favourite character, but i cant say on who would win if he engages in a battle to death against Minato.

 

[makinow kitomi]

I think that as many Itachi fans there are a lot of haters who dont like how popular he is, obviously Minato, Nagato, Naruto and Jiraiya fans wouldnt like Itachi to be hyped as better than than their favourites characters, both sides are wrong, there is no posible knowleadge about what could happen in a hipothetical Itachi vs Minato fight, we just know their attributes and weaknesses. Not how a specific battle between two character that level could go.

That not tru at all. I personly am a fan of Naruto and Shippuden seris. Been watchin A Narut sincne it firstg permied on Toonami. I honestly am a fan of Minato, Nagato, Naruto and Jiraiya, but I also am a fan of Tobi(before i new was Madara, Kakaishi, Itachi, Oro, and Shikamaru. I became a BIG fan after I new who he realy was befor and afther the Sasuke fight. Honesty.

But the true "hardcore fan'' have argued that Itachi could beat Madara, Senju and Minato when ,through what i have sine that is evident and prof, have accomplished in their name tells me that that the Itachi fans are dicounting what those shinobi did to ern there respect for fans and for the ninja world.

ever since the last two chapters came out, ppl are just elated that Itachi is alive now and as show that he has done thing to make him even greater than was before and I uderstand that. But I no that he cant defeat the the highy regarded ninja like seinju , like Madara(at peak form), like Minato, like jaryiha like nagato. Itach is a GREAT ninja that im possitive he could hold his own agianst then but he cant defeat them.

Going on what little we no about those shinobi and what we know about Itachi.

 

[Kinimaster]

That not tru at all. I personly am a fan of Naruto and Shippuden seris. Been watchin A Narut sincne it firstg permied on Toonami. I honestly am a fan of Minato, Nagato, Naruto and Jiraiya, but I also am a fan of Tobi(before i new was Madara, Kakaishi, Itachi, Oro, and Shikamaru. I became a BIG fan after I new who he realy was befor and afther the Sasuke fight. Honesty.

But the true "hardcore fan'' have argued that Itachi could beat Madara, Senju and Minato when ,through what i have sine that is evident and prof, have accomplished in their name tells me that that the Itachi fans are dicounting what those shinobi did to ern there respect for fans and for the ninja world.

ever since the last two chapters came out, ppl are just elated that Itachi is alive now and as show that he has done thing to make him even greater than was before and I uderstand that. But I no that he cant defeat the the highy regarded ninja like seinju , like Madara(at peak form), like Minato, like jaryiha like nagato. Itach is a GREAT ninja that im possitive he could hold his own agianst then but he cant defeat them.

Going on what little we no about those shinobi and what we know about Itachi.

You dont know, you just assume based on feats.

 

[Dregaur]

I see... This is very interesting.... what do you guys think?

For-real you have to think about it man... even Itachi said if he fought Jiraiya he would lose

 

[makinow kitomi]

U_U

COME ON be real that was madara not Itachi and madara wasn't strong like he was vs hashirama so tsukyomi ends in 1 sec if Minato get caught by it he's dead or he has any power to resist genjutsu-.- anyway if he atack first with FTG in 1 sec Itachi is dead ill still say that is who atack first wins there is no time for death raper seal or whatever is minato's strongest tech and susano'o Itachi's strongest tech so is tsukuyomi vs FTG i told draw or idk this is my opinion...

U_U see see see, u still dont understant my point im was trying to
makeU_U. the GEAT AND PROVEN ninjas dont fear the Uchihas. Minato's emotion and change not one tiny MILI-SECOND when he faught Madara, HE CAME UP WITH A PLAN IN MERE MILI-SECONDSto defeat madara. I was proven.

What makes u think he wont do the same with Itachi

What make u think he cant​

​

U_UIrest my caseU_U

 

[makinow kitomi]

There are ways to make your point, there are guys that say: "F*** S**** Itachi is not strong he is weaker than Minato blablabla you f***in fanboy!", i mean if you lose your composure when making a point, you lose total credibility and objectivity. So you should say for example something like: "I think Itachi is overall better than Minato, because of blabla etc, but i would never know who would win in a fight between them, because they both are in the top level of greatness, it would come on who outsmarts the other". Or otherwise for people who thinks Minato is a better overall ninja.

U KNOW WHAT
you'r right​

 

[arv993]

We may not know all his abilities but his abilities are good enough to laugh off most of Itachi's jutsu. Suiton>katon. He is a master suiton user. Space-time ninjutsu, regardless of how it works, will bypass amaterasu and will make it impossible to Itachi's susano'o to be effective. The only weapon Itachi has left is tsukuyomi. However, in a no knowledge scenario, tsukuyomi is just as dangerous as space-time ninjutsu. Without knowledge, he could teleport and slice Itachi's head with a kunai.



I call bullshit. He never held back against Kakashi. He used all his base jutsu, the same ones he did agains Kirabi and they all failed. Then, he proceeded to use MS just like he did against Kirabi when he was an edo. So, we know for sure he was not holding back.



Funny you forget the part where he tells Kisame to kill Asume and Kurenai



We have seen him at full strength against Kirabi.



I disagree. Minato could defeat Itachi easy. All his basic ninjutsu are low tier and easy to evade. Amaterasu and susano'o are too slow. Minato moves too fast for Itachi to genjutsu him. Tsukuyomi requires eye contact. Itachi with no knowledge of hiraishin has NO CHANCE AT ALL against Minato. Minato would just teleport and kill him.



Bullshit bro. The sharingan cannot follow Minato when he moves in his dimensional void. See the fight with Madara. Minato shitted on the sharingan. You guys overrate the sharingan movement prediction. Remember how A blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on? What about Kirabi? Blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on.



Hashirama would have ZERO difficulty against Itachi. Stop overrating the kid. Itachi's basic jutsu is shit as we know (Kakashi and Kirabi both dealt with him). Now, Hashirama, though we know little about his arsenal shits on Itachi's MS. We know he can regenerate (Madara and Zetsu have his cells and regenerate. Plus his clone in Madara's cave grows limbs). With regenerative powers, he would laugh off amaterasu. We know he could use tajuu kage bunshin. As Kakashi demonstrated against Itachi, genjutsu does not work on bunshin. Tsukuyomi is useless. Itachi only has susano'o left but susano'o will kill him if he uses it too much. Plus, with the power of several bijuu behind him, shodai could just have them fire bijuu daama against susano'o to destroy it. Itachi could never beat shodai

Dude how would you even kno how second's S/T techs can just avoid everything like amaterasu, his susano and his general jutsus when we have not even seen a bit of it in action and what is worse is that you think that he would just easily slice his head off with a kunai, you are clearly underestimating itachi no top rank ninja ever goes down that easily and I do from hype believe that the 2nd would most likely wiin due to alll his experience in battles against the uchihas but it can't be clear cut as you stated. Itachi barely even uses his regular ninjutsu so it is not even that big of a deal, and you also forget that his space time most likely be more basic than the fourth meaning that it is not exactly ftg and most likely not as effective(however still useful). And itachi for at least a while would have a perfect defense and i don't think the 2nd can just win by slicing his throat, it would be way more complicated and drawn out battle becos they are high class ninjas and itachi with tsukiyomi has a good chance to work but in the end the result won't be that clear cut but my bet is the 2nd but it will definitely not be as eassy as you put it and in the other responses were you responded it seems like you are underestimating Itachi's powers to a certain extent.

 

[makinow kitomi]

You dont know, you just assume based on feats.

I asume and i know


and feats are important on any scale of a great ninja