Itachi's Strength

[Lordofd100x]

Jiraiya would take out all of the Akatsuki! excluding madara or Nagato. Whoever thinks Itachi would defeat Jiraiya obviously doesnt pay attention. Itachi admitted it himself.

 

[Karasu13]

Ok Itachi vs 1st Hokage : if 1st is able to break through itachis genjutsus ( what i´m assuming cause he fought against many uchiha and madara himself so often ) 1st wins ! 1st > ita
2nd vs Itachi : for me a tie st-ninjutsu and highlvl-waterelement vs instant genjutsu and amaterasu just a matter of who hits the other first. but if itachis able to use susano i think its over for 2nd ( susanos attacks are not as slow as everybody´s assuming look how fast totsuka-blade pierce through orochimaru )
2nd - ita
3rd vs itachi : itachi wins i dont think 3rd can handle itachis genjutsu i think it would be an instant win for itachi
3rd < ita
4rd vs itachi : for me that would be the best fight in naruto! TIE !!! same as 2nd vs ita . short fight : who hits the other first ( ita genjutsu - minato space time + insta rasengan ) not so short fight : narutos speed is as fast as minatos without space-time so in a normal taijutsu fight itachi could hande minato. Minato throws some of his space-time-kunais. everybody saw how skilled itachi is with kunais he could easily block them with other kunais so it wouldnt be so easy to spam some space-time attacks for minato ( besides itachi would have made some clones so maybe minato would get a false one ^^ )
Susano is useless against minato hes to fast... amaterasu would only decrease minatos movements a little bit ... and here we go again tsukoyomie and other genjutsus would end the fight just as an succesfull spacetime-jutsu! its simlpy who gets the other one first! And Shiki Fujin would kill both ... tie! tie! tie!
4rd - ita
tsunade vs ita : ehm yeah i dont say that tsunade is weak but shes no match for itachi
tsunade < ita

i want to mention that no one of the kage is so dumb to not look against who they fight and just go for it ! And when you want to know your enemy you look into his face *cough* ( sry for bad english xD )

 

[Dark Eagle]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

even if madara said that, he wouldn't fight in such a way that he couldn't recover from 1st's fight even after 80 years, and also, the first hokage and the fourth hokage are better than itachi

If it was under normal conditions where as the Uchiha's didn't have the rep that they had and Itachi wasn't put in the position that he was put in, I think that Itachi would have been better than the 4th! Even Itachi and Sasuke's father says that Itachi is the link/keys to the Uchiha's future glory... (In so many words) They give the 4th to much credit... Even til' this day we can not even begin to understand just how much Itachi knew... Madara feared Itachi's power because even with just having MS Itachi was still a threat.... The 4th on the other hand, was known for his creation of certain jutsu's, he had an amazing style that was his and his alone and he gave his life to save the leaf village... So yeah he gets praise for that, But compared to Itachi.. I believe that his skill would fall way short by comparison...

 

[themiz]

Yeah i agree,itachi is by far one of the most powerful characters.even the edo tensei can't hold him,thats awesome

 

[jjnew123]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

damn your stupid, why do you think jairaya was teaching naruto to break Tsukuyomi, obviously because with the right amount of skill its very unbreakable obviously itachi would say that about his own technique...... Fanboi
And being a genjutsu master doesnt mean you can break other peoples it just means when u use it you use it to the best of its ability, in saying this sound genjustu is 100percent more effective then visual its said to be the strongest form of genjustu and with a skilled person using it it is way more dangerous.

Ok. Jman wasn't teaching naruto how to break out of itachi's tsukyomi.. he was jus teaching naruto to break out of genjutsu in general. Never once did jman mention anything about itachi or tsukyomi.

 

[psukkar]

Madara was fighting Minato and hasn't used any genjutsu.
Madara had never fought using genjutsu,just s/t ninjutsu.
In order to actually lose against hashirama,it's obvious that he wasn't using all his strength in the battle.

And I honestly believe that Itachi could one-shot all the first three Hokages simultaneously.

As long as the Hokage are within Itachi's field of view, the Amaterasu will burn spontaneously appear on all three of them. Neither of the Hokage have shown speed feats that are comparable to that of Raikage of Minato, so they are not avoiding Amaterasu

In conclusion, Itachi wins the fight as soon as he opens his eyes.

I honestly belive this is funniest post I ever read LOLOL and your abit unstable.

And corrertion madara not has used genjutsu much in this series timeline and thats because he has bearly used his sharaingan at all. And there;s big reason for this and its call hasihrama.

also u should keep this up, it only degrades itachi.

 

[YIN YANG]

how can itachi beat the 2nd hokage just look at his abilities Itachi 3 ms techs wouldn't be enough to stop the 2nd hokage and just the thought of 20 elite ninjas going against the 2nd hokage and him managing to hold them off enough for his team to survive should tell you something.

 

[arv993]

how can itachi beat the 2nd hokage just look at his abilities Itachi 3 ms techs wouldn't be enough to stop the 2nd hokage and just the thought of 20 elite ninjas going against the 2nd hokage and him managing to hold them off enough for his team to survive should tell you something.

he might beat him or not but I lean towards the 2nd hokage cos he is one of the best senju out there but we don't kno all his abilities, so we can't be sure.

 

[Ryumatasu]

It's important to remember that during almost of all of Itachi's fights he was holding back. Against Kakashi he did was was necessary to put him down, nothing more, he was more than capable of killing Kakashi, Kurenai and Asuma.

He told Kisame not to overdo it because he attacks draw too much attention, but really he wanted what was best for the leaf seeing as though it had just been attacked by Orochimaru and lost their Kage in battle (who was one of the few who knew of Itachi's sacrifice).

When he encountered again he was only a body double so it was only a third of his strenght and against Sasuke he was rife with disease and only wanted to push Sasuke to his limit in order to rid him of the cursed mark.

We can only guess at what he would be like at his full strength (hopefully we will see something of it against nagato).

My guess is that unless you had some idea of how itachi rolls you would have NO CHANCE AT ALL!.

We havent seen much of the Kages either, from the 4th we have seen his flying thunder god technique and rasengan (inferior to naruto's). Itachi's MS would be able to pick up on his movement so i dont think the 4th would have as good a chance as people think.

Itachi already pwned Orochimaru so the chances are that he would do the same to Tsunade. Itachi admitted himself that he couldnt take out Jiaryia (although this was probably an excuse not to put the leaf in any sort of trouble).

We havent seen anything of Madara or Hashirama (whether they were holding back is speculation), but I certainly think Hashirama would have significant trouble with Itachi.

Madara wouldnt so much because he would extremely familiar with the Sharingan and know how best to respond to it, lets remember that Madara's Mangekyou is eternal whilst itachi's is not.

Good for though

 

[Volcmike]

....Itachi admitted it himself.

Where can i see this then?

 

[Nidaimerocks]

he might beat him or not but I lean towards the 2nd hokage cos he is one of the best senju out there but we don't kno all his abilities, so we can't be sure.

We may not know all his abilities but his abilities are good enough to laugh off most of Itachi's jutsu. Suiton>katon. He is a master suiton user. Space-time ninjutsu, regardless of how it works, will bypass amaterasu and will make it impossible to Itachi's susano'o to be effective. The only weapon Itachi has left is tsukuyomi. However, in a no knowledge scenario, tsukuyomi is just as dangerous as space-time ninjutsu. Without knowledge, he could teleport and slice Itachi's head with a kunai.

It's important to remember that during almost of all of Itachi's fights he was holding back. Against Kakashi he did was was necessary to put him down, nothing more, he was more than capable of killing Kakashi, Kurenai and Asuma.

I call bullshit. He never held back against Kakashi. He used all his base jutsu, the same ones he did agains Kirabi and they all failed. Then, he proceeded to use MS just like he did against Kirabi when he was an edo. So, we know for sure he was not holding back.

He told Kisame not to overdo it because he attacks draw too much attention, but really he wanted what was best for the leaf seeing as though it had just been attacked by Orochimaru and lost their Kage in battle (who was one of the few who knew of Itachi's sacrifice).

Funny you forget the part where he tells Kisame to kill Asume and Kurenai

We can only guess at what he would be like at his full strength (hopefully we will see something of it against nagato).

We have seen him at full strength against Kirabi.

My guess is that unless you had some idea of how itachi rolls you would have NO CHANCE AT ALL!.

I disagree. Minato could defeat Itachi easy. All his basic ninjutsu are low tier and easy to evade. Amaterasu and susano'o are too slow. Minato moves too fast for Itachi to genjutsu him. Tsukuyomi requires eye contact. Itachi with no knowledge of hiraishin has NO CHANCE AT ALL against Minato. Minato would just teleport and kill him.

We havent seen much of the Kages either, from the 4th we have seen his flying thunder god technique and rasengan (inferior to naruto's). Itachi's MS would be able to pick up on his movement so i dont think the 4th would have as good a chance as people think.

Bullshit bro. The sharingan cannot follow Minato when he moves in his dimensional void. See the fight with Madara. Minato shitted on the sharingan. You guys overrate the sharingan movement prediction. Remember how A blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on? What about Kirabi? Blitzed Sasuke while he had his sharingan on.

We havent seen anything of Madara or Hashirama (whether they were holding back is speculation), but I certainly think Hashirama would have significant trouble with Itachi.

Hashirama would have ZERO difficulty against Itachi. Stop overrating the kid. Itachi's basic jutsu is shit as we know (Kakashi and Kirabi both dealt with him). Now, Hashirama, though we know little about his arsenal shits on Itachi's MS. We know he can regenerate (Madara and Zetsu have his cells and regenerate. Plus his clone in Madara's cave grows limbs). With regenerative powers, he would laugh off amaterasu. We know he could use tajuu kage bunshin. As Kakashi demonstrated against Itachi, genjutsu does not work on bunshin. Tsukuyomi is useless. Itachi only has susano'o left but susano'o will kill him if he uses it too much. Plus, with the power of several bijuu behind him, shodai could just have them fire bijuu daama against susano'o to destroy it. Itachi could never beat shodai

 

[GANGSTA KAGE]

First madara didn't hold back against the first to get his power he was beaten three times by the first one of the times made him lose sight of the shiringan second itachi said that if he and kisame fought jaryiah they all would have died so what makes u think he would have beaten the fourth and don't forget that the fourth hokage has a seal jutsu that protects him from genjutsu

 

[mookyuzamaki]

Madara was fighting Minato and hasn't used any genjutsu.
Madara had never fought using genjutsu,just s/t ninjutsu.
In order to actually lose against hashirama,it's obvious that he wasn't using all his strength in the battle.

And I honestly believe that Itachi could one-shot all the first three Hokages simultaneously.

As long as the Hokage are within Itachi's field of view, the Amaterasu will burn spontaneously appear on all three of them. Neither of the Hokage have shown speed feats that are comparable to that of Raikage of Minato, so they are not avoiding Amaterasu

In conclusion, Itachi wins the fight as soon as he opens his eyes.

ST*U

that is the dumbest ish i ever heard in my life your about to make me get banned omg

MADARA NEVER USED GENJUTSU ON THE 4TH CUZ ITS POINT LESS HE WILL NEVER MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM SO HE COULDNT SAME WITH THE OTHER KAGES YOU STUPID FANBOYS DONT GET IT HIS TSUKYOMI ISNT ONE HIT DAMN LIKE I SAID YOU EXCLUDE THE FACT THAT WEAK ASS SASUKE BROKE IT AND SAY ITS UNSTOPPABLE NO ITS NOT IF SNAKE SASUKE BROKE IT DAMN NEAR ANY ONE ELSE CAN

 

[makinow kitomi]

First madara didn't hold back against the first to get his power he was beaten three times by the first one of the times made him lose sight of the shiringan second itachi said that if he and kisame fought jaryiah they all would have died so what makes u think he would have beaten the fourth and don't forget that the fourth hokage has a seal jutsu that protects him from genjutsu

Plus pein saild that jariha would have defeated him if he new all the secrets of the six path

 

[mookyuzamaki]

plus pein saild that jariha would have defeated him if he new all the secrets of the six path

and if j-man could have defeated pain pain rapes itachi and if all you fanboys say itachi can beat all three previous kages your saying j-man can beat all preivous kages you retards!
God this has to be the dumbest most fanboyish thread i have seen in my life you state no facts all you can say is genjutsu and its over cuz most kages if not all can run away from itachis best move which it is his best move cuz heused it last suosono its so lame i know kishi is gonna give sasuke so new powers cuz susono is wack its not even that tight with out the sword and all you fanboys know it his ultimate genjutsu isnt even the best shisuis is lmao thats the sad thing his genjutsu can and always be broken and you cant tell its never been broken and yeah he got kakashi back in the day whos not to say kakashi could break it now??

Do we know that no nobody knows cuz itachi got merked by his bro end of story and he got beat by snake sasuke thats sad......

 

[mookyuzamaki]

and what prevents him from using genjutsu on hashirama and jiraiya? Neither of whom have a defense against his genjutsu. Or any of his ms abilities

ok plz tell me how they dont have you seen any of them being caught in a genjutsu???

And do you know any of the first abilities besides wood style??

 

[mookyuzamaki]

We have seen itachi fight we know what his abilties are, he showcased basiclly all them against sasuke. But we havent even seen guys like Hasihrama or the 2nd hokage fight. Its goes both ways Even Jiraiya we only saw him fight twice, once against pain and once again when he was posised by tsuande.

1)But we do know hasihrama defeated Madara(EMS) and the mere fact the senju fought the uchiha many times clearly shows he had means to fight and defeat an uchiha. He was labelled as the best in his time, Uchiha Madara said this, what more proof do you need.

Oh by the way Hasihrama did defeat Madara(who uses very strong genjutsu) and the fox.

2) I feel if we get into the jiraiya auguement this thread would go another 60 pages. All that needs to said about this is that jiraiya was trying to train naruto in breaking genjutsu by discrupting your own chakra that does work even on tuksikmo as we saw with bee.We dont need to say anymore than that. leave this guys, nither jiraiya or itachi fanboys will wins this bout. It would have been intresting if nagato used genjutsu to see what Jiraiya reaction is, funny enough he ended up using genjutsu instead.


Just qucik thing i noticed,

If people are going to think just becuase you have sharingan that means you win any 1v1 fight, thats just retarded. We have been proven time and time again that the sharingan is beatable, hasihrama being the best example x2.


Genjutsu isnt unbeatable, people need to get this out of your heads.

There's been nothing shown to be unbeatable in the series in general.

THANK YOU DUDE YOUR THE ONLY ONE I HAVE SEEN IN THIS THREAD WITH A LITTLE COMMON SENSE AND IS NOT A FANBOY

Genjutsu isnt unbeatable, people need to get this out of your heads.
JUST CUZ THIS

 

[Gaarafan12]

We are constantly suprised by how many moves ahead itachi is all the time not only is he powerful he is increadably smart. He has every situation already planned. That's why I think he could win almost any fight.

And btw kadowade^ I so love watching itachi own sasuke over and over on your banner!! lol xD

 

[mookyuzamaki]

lol he has genjutsu that dosent require eye contact. So it would be impossible to dodge it, and once he trap u in one, your completly vulnerable, and he can do whatever he wants to you.

He'll put somebody in a genjutsu, and they would be fighting illusions, while he just chillin, (like he did on sasuke)

any one can break the non eye contact one if snake sasuke can break tsukoyomi so shut that down playboi your fan boy genjutsu wont work on me so no itachi is weak and would never in his right mind even dare challenge any of the prievious kage and its funny how you only wrote back to that and not any of the pure facts i was talking about turning a blind eye to how weak itachi is

 

[mookyuzamaki]

we are constantly suprised by how many moves ahead itachi is all the time not only is he powerful he is increadably smart. He has every situation already planned. That's why i think he could win almost any fight.

And btw kadowade^ i so love watching itachi own sasuke over and over on your banner!! Lol xd

how are we surprised?? Im not at all cool he put an eye in naruto along time ago whatever cool he got merked by snale sasuke ms sasuke would merk itachi