[Discussion] A's raw speed & Minato's raw speed

[holtaa]

lol wow this shouldve ended ages ago... im just going to repeat what i have already said

ummm does it matter? why talk about NORMAL.... Each character has thier own ability. You are taking away minato's ability againts A.... well of course A will win -.- your logic sir is skrewed.


its just like saying hey if you put sasuke and naruto in a chidori v rasengan, you take away rasengan and sasuke will win. therefore sasuke is better......

 

[squigles]

First of all, this thread is stupid. Who really cares who's faster without using abilities? Do you honestly think two ninja are going to face off and not use their abilities to try and gain an advantage?


I highly doubt it.


Secondly, I think the OP is trying to make a point that Raikage's speed is based on his own chakra, which can be created and manipulated by the user, while Minato's speed is based on the use of outside objects. This is a valid point if we were talking about a ninja fight in a vacuum. However, in a 'real world' setting like a forest or mountain range, Minato will always have access to something he can use for his reverse summoning technique, and as long as he puts enough forethought into the fight, he will always come out ahead.


Many of you seem to believe Minato's technique relies on those special Kunai. Actually, he uses those special kunai so that his teammates can distinguish between them and other kunai in battle. Knowing what your teammates are capable of is the foundation for synergy. I am willing to bet that as long as Minato has something he can place the summoning seal on, he can teleport to it.


Lastly, both the Raikage and Minato are using their ninja tools to increase their speed. Everything a ninja has can be used as a tool. Their body, chakra, and objects around them included. The ninja who uses his tools in the most effective fashion is the one that comes out ahead.


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[Ryuusaki]

Minato is described as "fast" because he's quick - not necessarily because he's moving his body at incredible speeds. It's time/space jutsu based on seals, and he's teleporting, not moving. Raikage moves his body faster, his thunder armor or whatnot strikes me as an enhanced version of the basic body flicker stuff.

I think the point people have tried to make countless times is that Minato using his FTG is generally quicker from A to B than the Raikage. Whilst running in a straight line, disregarding teleport techniques, Raikage would simply move his physical body quicker.

...I didn't bother reading the 8 pages of opinions before me, so shoot me if this has already been said.

 

[HiddenSage]

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there you go Minato raw speed is incredible as well I'm sure he possibly same or faster than Raikage BUT we can't be sure because we haven't seen Raikage engage in battle without his Raition Armor

 

[olawaletunji]

minato is faster even without the seals

 

[blackbird31468]

This is pointless, No matter what you do or say the 4th lovers are going to say the 4th is the best at everything, you can't reason with logic with these people U_U

yeah your right

 

[chickmagnet]

yeah your right

you guys r so darn ignorant and blind kishi put the shit all over the manga yet yall still try 2 argue against it its pathetic

 

[SKTupac]

Always this b*llsh*t with yeah what if he hadn't this and that. He has it and uses it. Minato is faster with his technique and that's the only what counts. Doesn't matter if he uses this and that, he is using it, so u don't have to compare when he doesn't.

 

[JMAN]

This thread is stupid !

Kishi has already stated that minato is the fastest ninja ever.

Lets say A and Minato race on 100m with raw speed.

A won't use his chakra enhancing technique and Minato won't use FTG.

In the end Minato wins.

Raw speed means without anything applied on it to make it faster. Raiton is used to make him faster hence being a tool so his speed with raiton isn't raw speed.

 

[billprof]

Seriously? Lighting Armor is used to ENHANCE his abilities. It increases his speed to use it. If you really want to compare speed you'd have to compare them with absolutely no abilities.

I agree ...

 

[Onii]

I'm faster then all of them combined mother ****ers! come at me!

 

[Raikiri10]

yondaime wins

 

[Narutosixpathsage]

FTG does not take up chakra, derp. It's basically a summong seal and he throwsit, derp.

Regardless, chakra or not, A needs to turn on his lightning to go as fast as he does and the 4th has to use his FTG. Either way they are both using something to achieve the speed. I'm sure there isn't going to be a manga having both "Raw" as you claim, meaning no chakra enhancement or nothing, and run a mile.

It should be enough for you that A acknowledged the 4th as the fastest, didn't say but with out his FTG, he said plain and simple, the fastest.

 

[VECTS25]

well you said it yourself, i quote you, HIS OWN CHAKRA, minato uses his own chakrs for his own speed, therefore his chakra speed is 100% faster thans A's...plus if u as me kikashi is fater than A too.

 

[Saberwulf]

A is using lightning ninjutsu to make himself go faster
Minato is using FTG to make himself faster
we have never seen them go running just for fun without using chakra

 

[Avani]

A is using lightning ninjutsu to make himself go faster
Minato is using FTG to make himself faster
we have never seen them go running just for fun without using chakra

hmm...

Minato and Raikage on the 100 m race track. who would win?

 

[fastrthnwind]

all his kunai's are marked that means nothing.
it has merits for an actual discussion, not to be quickly dismissed.

i believe that his ftg tech is just the flicker tech but further developed and mastered. wild i know just throwing it out there haha.

It does mean something. With all of the marked kunai spread out over the battlefield he will be able to use FTG to move quickly and eliminate any enemies in the area.

The FTG tech is actually a reverse summoning tech which allows him to instantly teleport anywhere he has marked objects. The body flicker is actual movement enhanced by one's on chakra to move at great speeds. If anything, the Raikage's Lightning Armor is the body flicker tech enhanced with lightning element.

 

[Hussein5779]

FTG does not take up chakra, derp. It's basically a summong seal and he throwsit, derp.

Supa, stop player hating. We all know you hate Minato, so stop making topics to bash him. Now, on to topic, summoning* does take up chakra. And For your information, it's a reverse summon. And last but not least, calling people derps isn't gonna get your message across any better.

 

[javu]

all his kunai's are marked that means nothing.
it has merits for an actual discussion, not to be quickly dismissed.

i believe that his ftg tech is just the flicker tech but further developed and mastered. wild i know just throwing it out there haha.

In the Kakashi Gaiden Rin calls the FTG "sensei's body flicker technique" and says its "so fast." So maybe, while a seal, the FTG is in fact a body flicker, just a highly developed one...

 

[shadow1darkrasengun]

i mean u cant say normal in naruto because none of this can really happen but im not a fan of the 4th or A.... but u have to give credit were credit is do people are still trying to say A is faster then minato when A said that minato was faster then him and in the new magna they clearly put it into terms that minato is sightly better then A if not for bee minato would have killed A so theres no need for anymore threads like this lol first it was naruto in A now its minato and A it feels like kishi made this chapter just to prove some of u wrong about A being better then minato yea they made the 4th a god in naruto but they made goku a god in dragon ball z and ichgo a god in bleach this is the way anime goes there always has to b a god in every anime no matter wat it is