Masashi Kishimoto contradicting Naruto's original Character

[Supa]

wow man you really are a troll

Konahamaru don't count cuz he only have a weaker form of rasengan and of the , you so think, weakest path which was Naraka path...

Please ban him someone

Konohamaru is irrelevant, he would die using attempting that jutsu on Jounin+ level ninja.

 

[mattruto]

How does that translate to him mastering SM in days while Jiraiya couldn't in years?

cuz he is the main character of this series. he has that something special that main characters have and others dont. thats how it translates. if you want a realistic story line, then he probably wouldnt have been able to handle kyuubi and died really young. if he werent special then he would not have defeated all the people he has. he is the hero of the story, and heros have that special gift, which in his case, learn many things fast in order to defeat the evil in the story.

but seriously, it seems like youre just arguing for the sake of it and nothing anyone says is going to satisfy you.

 

[TheFourthHokage]

Supa why are you so serious all of a sudden?

A reason why Naruto exists today is cause Kishimoto got inspired by Toriyama. We wouldn't have the same manga that is Naruto today if it was for the Dragon ball series.

"The next generation will always surpass the next" This is mentioned many times in the manga and it applies here. Naruto is the son of one of the strongest in Konoha and also the son of a Jinchuriki who already had a lot of chakra to begin with.

Point is. Stop taking the manga so seriously. It's something you read and enjoy its not something you have to make threads about saying how it rips off dragon ball.

You can close this now.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Supa why are you so serious all of a sudden?

A reason why Naruto exists today is cause Kishimoto got inspired by Toriyama. We wouldn't have the same manga that is Naruto today if it was for the Dragon ball series.

"The next generation will always surpass the next" This is mentioned many times in the manga and it applies here. Naruto is the son of one of the strongest in Konoha and also the son of a Jinchuriki who already had a lot of chakra to begin with.

Point is. Stop taking the manga so seriously. It's something you read and enjoy its not something you have to make threads about saying how it rips off dragon ball.

You can close this now.

That^

Why so serious, Supa?

 

[Sageofthepath]

Only cuz he want to boost his number of post.

Creating polymic threads and answering everyone in a different post, doing double and triple post, that's a nice way to boost post number and eventually getting ban for spamming

 

[Kyuoken]

Seem so, well I say this topic serve its purpose. Lock please. Consisdering theres no more to discuss. He is still going to read the manga either way, weather we know it or not.

 

[Supa]

cuz he is the main character of this series. he has that something special that main characters have and others dont. thats how it translates. if you want a realistic story line, then he probably wouldnt have been able to handle kyuubi and died really young. if he werent special then he would not have defeated all the people he has. he is the hero of the story, and heros have that special gift, which in his case, learn many things fast in order to defeat the evil in the story.

but seriously, it seems like youre just arguing for the sake of it and nothing anyone says is going to satisfy you.

That thing is called Plot-no-Jutsu.

 

[Supa]

Supa why are you so serious all of a sudden?

A reason why Naruto exists today is cause Kishimoto got inspired by Toriyama. We wouldn't have the same manga that is Naruto today if it was for the Dragon ball series.

"The next generation will always surpass the next" This is mentioned many times in the manga and it applies here. Naruto is the son of one of the strongest in Konoha and also the son of a Jinchuriki who already had a lot of chakra to begin with.

Point is. Stop taking the manga so seriously. It's something you read and enjoy its not something you have to make threads about saying how it rips off dragon ball.

You can close this now.

He ripped off Akira to the max.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Naruto in Part ll has disinterested me and a few others because he's copying Akira Toriyama.

i actually have to agree with him copying akira a bit. i mean somone kills all the uchiha then one of the survivors kills this guy and gets a power boost? same with goku killing frieza and going super saiyan. everything else is bs

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

Well Supa, it's already obvious that you make threads like this for attention, which you have clearly shown.Naruto isn't arrogant, if anything he was more arrogant in the first series.



Your point?Look, we don't even know what Sasuke's EMS abilities are yet.And the same goes for Naruto's Rikodu mode.And also don't you see that the series is starting to come to a close?The end fight between the two or however it may go would be boring as HELL if they weren't overpowered.



Firstly, we didn't even see all of Naruto and Jiraiya's training, so how would you say that it only consisted of learning Rasengan?The fourth made Rasengan, but it took him 3 years to do so and even then he didn't fully master the technique as Naruto obviously has.We saw about one clip of Naruto developing his Giant Rasengan, and one clip of Naruto attacking Jiraiya while in three-tailed cloak mode, but does that prove that his training only consists of mastering Rasengan and testing Naruto's seal either?No.And also, Susano'o and Amaterasu being used effectively?Sasuke pretty much just whored those techniques during all of his recent fights except for the Killer Bee one.Although I do agree about him using Genjutsu effectively.





Well, Naruto always has been a quick learner, so I guess you could say that's still an original trait of his.Also, it took more than one month.

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Another point to be made: You obviously don't know what you're talking about because you're not even using ignorant correctly, which is the word you're using for your thesis.Here's the definition:

1.lacking in knowledge or training;unlearned: an ignorant man.
2.lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3.Uninformed; unaware.
4.due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement (Just like yours! )



Also, people change, even in real life.(though some never do) And that's also one of Masashi's key Naruto story migrations; Naruto growing from a prank-loving brat who was hated by everyone to the savior of the Leaf, which everyone admires.Plus, that also took more than a month.

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I don't know why I have taken the time to write this post, because you'll just end up saying something that's completely unrelated to the point I was trying to make so that you can keep on trolling on your thread.

As you've shown here:





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And these are just three examples.I could easily find many more examples to show, but I think I've already wasted enough of my time making this post.


Also, sorry to anyone else who thought this was extremely long, I've been a forum mod before, so I guess the whole 'trouncing trolls' thing just came back for a bit

I've already made my point back on page 4, and many other people have already won this argument.Just give up.It's over.And don't try to pull a Naruto D:<

 

[TheFourthHokage]

He ripped off Akira to the max.

Irrevelant. You know I am right.

Also you write how Killer Bee took years to gain control of his bijuu.

But on narutopedia it says this clearly. " There he learned how to control the Eight-Tails in the blink of an eye. Some time since then, much like Naruto, Bee has become beloved in Kumo as the village's hero, or, as Motoi called him, the "Hero of Heroes".

Can you explain how naruto is overpowered if Bee learned how to control his bijuu as fast as him if not faster? No you can't cause all of your arguments are irrevelant and dumb. Get outta here troll.

 

[JiraiyaTheToad Sage]

I really don't care. I like it anyway and will continue to sit and enjoy the manga and anime.

 

[Avani]

I really don't see any contradictions. Just the protagonists character being developed over the last 10 + years of the series.

If everyone knew who Naruto's parents were from the start, and why the 4th sealed the fox in Naruto, everyone would have thought differently.

I am pretty sure that he still wants to be the Hokage, but we don't really hear it to much from him directly. This is probably due to the fact that he has other goals, that are probably more important to him at the moment, and he focus's his attention on those, versus his dream of Hokage.

It has always been hinted at who his father was, Jiraiya said in the first series he was taking Naruto as his apprentice, because of his resemblance to the 4th. Granted Jiraiya knew who his father was, but it was still not revealed until much later.

Is there some kind of time line that state's exactly how long he was training with the toads? I have always wondered how long he was with the toads myself.

He obviously was always part of the Uzumaki clan. The whole chain of hatred thing has been a vital part of the entire story, just with different names attached to it, and it needs to be seen in a different way, and on different scales.

There is a fine line between arrogance and self confidence. People are that are seen as arrogant are typically only seen that way by people that have low self confidence.

I don't believe he is OP. As of right now he is only on par with the Raikage. We haven't seen what he can do fully with his new powers, so maybe he has peaked (which is highly unlikely). We also don't know what Kabuto, Tobi/Madara, or Sasuke can do yet.

I agreee. Jiraiya and Tsunade discussed naruto's parents. They named Kushina and talked about her nature but Kishi purposely avoided naming Minato and they talked about his father without calling out his name. When Jiraiya pushed Naruto in the deep valley ( hoping that in extreme condition he would be able to use Kyuubi chakra) he says "Sorry Minato"... there were always hints...

 

[kickassjutsu]

I don't think that was gokus main drivewhen it came to freza, don't think he really cared about his original planet, not the way vegita, and goku got powered up because freza was killing his friends right infront of him