Masashi Kishimoto contradicting Naruto's original Character
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kickassjutsu
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And like i said hes gonna ressurect the 10 tails with or with out them, and believe me there not doing it to save naruto, but the ninja world, but the option to not use the eight tail or nine tails power has just about ran out, so use those two great powers to put an end to the war. He doesn't have to turn the 9 tail good to use his power like i said the beast is his bitch.
ahhh, but what if that what brings them together? and it wont be a complete jubbi, so it probably wont be all that strong. i think they will end up working together to defeat some. after there little fight that is.
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Like I said in bold, neither of them understand Madara doesn't need them anymore. The 8-Tails can be used effectively, but the 9-Tails would be a liability, because it would turn against the Alliance.
If Sasuke & Naruto team up so many people will be upset, so I doubt Kishi would let that happen: But who knows, it's a Shounen Jump manga..
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kickassjutsu
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theres abviously a diffrence in bother the 8 and 9 tailed beast, not only in power but maybe alot of things. The form naruto has when he uses the tailed beast power is weird and really not much is know about it, powers yet untold, even with out the full help of the 9 tailed beast. And if thats the case about them not knowing that madara doesn't need them any more, then what the point of staying hidden? naruto wont let the beat out of control.
yeah, but im sure hes gonna let us see them kick each others ass first lol, nice chat.
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Punk Hazard
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look youre mad because naruto is getting stronger faster than everyone else. thats stupid. if you want an anime or manga where the main character is weak and loses to the bad guy go and make it instead of bashing on kishi who works hard to make naruto entertaining. if you dont like the way naruto is going read/watch something else
Jack Spicer
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No.
Understand this. EVERY character grows, correct? Sasuke and Naruto are the main characters, so they grow the most. Naruto has tougher opponets so he ahas to get stronger. When Jiraiya died, Naruto recieved Sage Mode. That was a loss and a gain. Trading is what Kishi does. Orochimaru was sealed, so Sasuke lost his CM. Itachi died, Sasuke gained MS. It's all a training system.
Naruto and everyone aren't kids anymore. They are all powerful ninjas. Naruto and Sasuke are the peaks of their class.
This isn't contridiction. This is growth.
Naruto is OP. Why? Because he can be. He needs to be in order to fight Madara, Kabuto, Kages, and to be reconized as a great ninja.
Nobody complains about other anime. In DBZ, Buu's overpowerful as hell. Nobody says stuff about him. Don't start on Naruto. You can say he s OP, but don't say it's controdicting. It isn't at all.
Good guys get stronger in order to fight the bad guys. Don't like it? Watch something else.
I am not mad. I'm just saying. Learn the difference between character development and contridiction. This aggervates me.
Another thing. If the kyuubi becmes an ally for Naruto, then it would kinda suck, but that will prove how different Naruto is and how good he is.
I wont argue with you. Naruto is over powered like Sasuke, but the need to be in order to be in the same leauge as Kages and Madara. Both are either hunted by bad guys/good guys. One is a holder of a deamon and one is an S-Rank international criminal. They need power.
I like the suporting characters better, but Naruto is the main character. Don't hate on him or the story. Especially on a Naruto site.
nickalfred31
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IT IS ANIME...ITS MADE UP, OF COURSE ITS UNREALISTIC. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT ASSOCIATE YOURSELF WITH NARUTO. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN:flaw:
Actually Sasuke has fought harder opponents, but he's gained his power throughout time, whereas Naruto is getting a new power or ability to his bloodline (Uzumaki) every single moment.
It's contradictory because in Part l Naruto trained hard for his abilities, whereas in Part ll it's basically given to him.
DBZ is different from Naruto though, Kishi needs to seriously stop copying off of Akira.
This is a Naruto (series) site, a Naruto Uzumaki fanclub, lol.
Naruto in Part ll has disinterested me and a few others because he's copying Akira Toriyama.
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kingdondunga
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You still havent answered my question. What about konohamaru who learnt the rasengan quicker than naruto. Its not only naruto other characters as well.
That was purely non-cannon, as the realm Konohamaru disposed of returned. Let's also not forget it was the weakest Pein. Konohamaru's Rasengan at best could injure someone of Jounin+ status, never kill.
Okay, been reading all 8 pages. I have some what of whats going on. But confused...
So the first argument was. He is mad, that Naruto is getting strong quite fast for the Majority of 2010-2011 in the manga?
While secondly. He thinks Kishimoto is purposly, giving all 'holy-mother-of-godly-power-copying-sauske-powers' to Naruto for the majority, when Shippuuden started?
So the first argument was. He is mad, that Naruto is getting strong quite fast for the Majority of 2010-2011 in the manga?
While secondly. He thinks Kishimoto is purposly, giving all 'holy-mother-of-godly-power-copying-sauske-powers' to Naruto for the majority, when Shippuuden started?
if youre disinterested, then just stop reading/watching. but if youre only point is that naruto got too strong too fast then youre either not really understanding narutos character at all. he learned shadow clones all by himself in a couple hours. he learned resengan in a couple days. hes learning stronger techniques because he is getting stronger overall. he wouldnt try and learn sage mode while still in the academy. hes developing his abilities and as his abilites grow, hes able to learn and grow more quickly cuz hes stronger and is learning how to grow strong fast. for example, you wouldnt learn calculus before you learn how to add, subtract, multiply, and divide. but once you get at the high level you have a deeper understanding of the material as a whole. like a progression. hes just progressing because hes strong overall.
and if you still think its too fast, then realize its just entertainment. if he had to get strong at the same rate as everyone else, then he would be dead and the story would be over with sasuke and madara taking over. it is the character development everyone is saying. he is naruto, and therefore has a special ability about him. hes not labeled a genius, but has the skill of learning quickly with his clones and enormous chakra.
and arrogant? i dont know what you mean. in part 1 he was always jumping into fights before thinking, and most of the time his opponents are stronger. it is not a contradiction, is it consistency that he is leaving the turtle and jumping in the fight to save his friends and village even when he knows he has to go up against the strongest bad characters.
and then if youre still gonna say "my point is he is too op too fast" then youre just arguing for the sake of arguing.
and if you still think its too fast, then realize its just entertainment. if he had to get strong at the same rate as everyone else, then he would be dead and the story would be over with sasuke and madara taking over. it is the character development everyone is saying. he is naruto, and therefore has a special ability about him. hes not labeled a genius, but has the skill of learning quickly with his clones and enormous chakra.
and arrogant? i dont know what you mean. in part 1 he was always jumping into fights before thinking, and most of the time his opponents are stronger. it is not a contradiction, is it consistency that he is leaving the turtle and jumping in the fight to save his friends and village even when he knows he has to go up against the strongest bad characters.
and then if youre still gonna say "my point is he is too op too fast" then youre just arguing for the sake of arguing.
I agree with 'Mattruto'. Naruto would be very uninteresting if his skills were so low in comparrison with Sasuke's. They started of togeher and they are destined to fight it should be a intense fight not one were a person wins in the first couple of mins. Naruto and Sasuke both stil have a long way to progress,
Sageofthepath
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wow man you really are a troll
Konahamaru don't count cuz he only have a weaker form of rasengan and of the , you so think, weakest path which was Naraka path...
Please ban him someone
Also lets not forget, that even in this "Kyuubi armour". Naruto haves no control over it quite yet. For example, like how he tried to move or walk. Ended up him, losing balance and breaking the very floor/ground that below him.
Even then. From what I remember. We don't know how well his Jutsus, will respond to this new power/abillity. Since a simple Rasengon, turn into a laser that 4 tail naruto shoots.
Like everyone else said on here. While 'not sure if Jiraiya said this' qoute Jiraiya. Naruto learns and absorbs infomation like a sponge. Manipulating the lesson in his own way. Just like with Rasen-Shuriken.
When Naruto told Kakashi.
Along with the Sage training, it took him a month. On the account the Toad sage, warn Naruto that he needs. Complete concentration to harness the Nature chakra. Even then, if he were to enter a battle. He can't do it on the fly during battle. He had to use Shadow clones, that are in Sage mode. To give him that extra 5 minutes to stay in that form.
Saying he overly power? Sure it may look like it...But making him over power is more of, he can do these things with just a simple flick of the wrist. Wrong, he cant do these abilitys on the fly.
Well atleast, now sure about the kyubii armour.
He gets help, like everyone eles been telling you. He learns from others and take it into consisderation. While making those advices work in his favor. Naruto gets his strength from the help of his friends. While his friends, gets the help from him.
Along with their motivation and beliefs.
Sasuke? He was only giving powers, through killing and beating the crap out of his opponets. Along with Itachi giving him the 'eyes' every one been talking about. Like Sasuke said to Sakura, before he left.
He is walking down a Path. That her nor Naruto could follow, because of how diffrent their goals and perspective in life are.
Naruto Part 1: Underdog, yes. Gets help and strength from his friends and sensei. Part 2: Shows his strength over the course 2-3 years of training, along with Kakashi, Yamato, The Toad Sage and Bee. Even then, he still needed guidence and help from his friends. To even make it this far.
While Sasuke? He took the avenger path and gain power through revenge, hatred and solitude. While also being told why Itachi killed the Uchiha clan. That was his way of life and how he gain his power.
Even then Sasuke was taught everything he could, untill what he see fit. went and kill Orochimaru for that benefit. Even his fight with Itachi, he killed his brother. But during the battle, itachi got rid of the Curse mark that Sasuke had. While giving him a new power, that was sappouse to protect him from Madaara.
While I don't know what happen, during the time he was with Madaara. My money is on, that he was taught and train to control the Tsukyuomi (Spelled right?) along with obtainin Susanno. A dark more menacing version of the Jutsu.
any way...uh Yeah ^_^; Atleast thats my gist of it.
Even then. From what I remember. We don't know how well his Jutsus, will respond to this new power/abillity. Since a simple Rasengon, turn into a laser that 4 tail naruto shoots.
Like everyone else said on here. While 'not sure if Jiraiya said this' qoute Jiraiya. Naruto learns and absorbs infomation like a sponge. Manipulating the lesson in his own way. Just like with Rasen-Shuriken.
When Naruto told Kakashi.
"Its like trying to look right and left at the same time. Its hard", which Kakashi told him it wasn't difficult and summon 1 shadow clone, to prove to Naruto. That a ninja can look right and left at the same time.
Which gave Naruto the perfect balance of Manipulation, Concentraitng and rotating his chakra. In turn, he still uses a shadow to help him create a better version of the Rasengan. Because he still lacks the control he needs by himself
Which gave Naruto the perfect balance of Manipulation, Concentraitng and rotating his chakra. In turn, he still uses a shadow to help him create a better version of the Rasengan. Because he still lacks the control he needs by himself
Along with the Sage training, it took him a month. On the account the Toad sage, warn Naruto that he needs. Complete concentration to harness the Nature chakra. Even then, if he were to enter a battle. He can't do it on the fly during battle. He had to use Shadow clones, that are in Sage mode. To give him that extra 5 minutes to stay in that form.
Saying he overly power? Sure it may look like it...But making him over power is more of, he can do these things with just a simple flick of the wrist. Wrong, he cant do these abilitys on the fly.
Well atleast, now sure about the kyubii armour.
He gets help, like everyone eles been telling you. He learns from others and take it into consisderation. While making those advices work in his favor. Naruto gets his strength from the help of his friends. While his friends, gets the help from him.
Along with their motivation and beliefs.
Sasuke? He was only giving powers, through killing and beating the crap out of his opponets. Along with Itachi giving him the 'eyes' every one been talking about. Like Sasuke said to Sakura, before he left.
He is walking down a Path. That her nor Naruto could follow, because of how diffrent their goals and perspective in life are.
Naruto Part 1: Underdog, yes. Gets help and strength from his friends and sensei. Part 2: Shows his strength over the course 2-3 years of training, along with Kakashi, Yamato, The Toad Sage and Bee. Even then, he still needed guidence and help from his friends. To even make it this far.
While Sasuke? He took the avenger path and gain power through revenge, hatred and solitude. While also being told why Itachi killed the Uchiha clan. That was his way of life and how he gain his power.
Even then Sasuke was taught everything he could, untill what he see fit. went and kill Orochimaru for that benefit. Even his fight with Itachi, he killed his brother. But during the battle, itachi got rid of the Curse mark that Sasuke had. While giving him a new power, that was sappouse to protect him from Madaara.
While I don't know what happen, during the time he was with Madaara. My money is on, that he was taught and train to control the Tsukyuomi (Spelled right?) along with obtainin Susanno. A dark more menacing version of the Jutsu.
any way...uh Yeah ^_^; Atleast thats my gist of it.