Science:The Ultimate Question!

[Mahamed zh]

this live and this world will be finish and all of us will bring to front god...

 

[~Lumos~]

so its just God thats infinite, isn't affected by anything humans think of blah blah blah yeah right, once again hes talking to my pet T.rex with the other imaginary friends.

I dont want to reply ur stupid answers about ur dog i think u r missing him is he dead or something that u r continuously talking about it in such serious thread

 

[~Lumos~]

Good for you. But kindly refrain from calling everyone who believes in God an idiot, as doing that only proves that you are one. I don't appreciate what he's doing either, i.e: trying to impose his views on others.

I m not imposing views I m sharing it as other are doing

 

[Hotarubi]

NO do you thing that we created just to live and finish?
no you are wrong we are in TEST

You might think the things you are saying sound pretty smart and logical, but well,,,THEY DON'T! and you are only repeating what your religion ( Islam) have told you , please , pleaaaaaase , please for once, think for yourself , don't let your religion have any influence on your mind.
Btw, Quran has so many flaws that I'm not gonna say, cause I'm considerate of people's feeling for their religions.

Spoiler

There is actually a verse in Quran saying there are invisible pillars holding the world....whatttt thaa****** ? U_U

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

yes but as you said, if this is the case, then why not say that god always existed?!

why do we need to have a sentient being in control of things in the first place, why can't the always been always will be rule be applied straight to the universe instead of the middle man "God"

scientists have some kind of proof that the universe was born around 14 billion years ago, and before that it was heated mass, so if we assume that before that heated mass it had another form and it has been transforming and transforming infinetly, as in the universe evolving just like us, but with no begining and no end!, but the very fact that it transforms, tells us that there had to be something!, because transformations has to have a begining!, what was its original form and how did it come to be?? - so
its better to say God created all!!

yes the big bang, iv heard from science teachers in the past that one theory was the big bang just happens over and over, it expands outwards for a certain time then loses its energy and travels back the other way, eventually reforming the heated mass and re expanding (don't know if that was just her theory or what, was a few years ago) so the original form would be the small heated mass pre-big bang.

but i have some theories which im developing.., one of them is.., i tried to get as close possible to nothingness, and i came all the way back to one thing "a fact"

tell me, is fact or truth something or not?, well they are neither and both!, if something exists, then what is closest fact about it that makes it something? - the answer is, the "fact" itself (that it does exist) so in this case fact is something!

if there is "nothingness", then what can be there? - Nothing!, except for the "fact" again! the fact (that theres Nothing)

So a "fact", or "truth" is present in "Nonexistense", and "Existence", but in different meanings!!

Now, i know what you will think, that a fact or truth are just our thoughts! - they are not!! - because whether we think of it or not, a "fact" or "truth" still remains!! - independent of us!!

now i will not go deeper into it unless u ask me to, but my point is..

in this theory, i believe that "fact" or "truth" evolved and transformed into a "rule" - "Balance", and then because of the nature of balance, because even in this universe everything has a balance!!, where there is light, there is dark, where there is good there is evil, where there is space, there is time, there is gravity, and then there is anti gravity!, there is material, and then there is antimaterial!, where there is postive there is negative
, there is electron, and there is proton, and they also are made up of two quarks oposite of eatchother!, and so on and so on!!

and Since if there was only "Nonexistence", there had to be a balance!, the oposite was Born!! - and that is Existence!!, but it happens in stages and many transformations!!

i know this may be difficult to understand, and agree with, but remember, beyond the universe, the rules you know do not apply!!

so facts exsists (yes) which leads to rules which leads to balance etc, one thing though, good and evil are human terms, if we had no feelings good and evil wouldn't exsist so to non-sentient beings its just a process we sentient beings can slap a term onto.

so the balance requires something to have always exsisted if the universe didn't exsist at all times, or whatever? eh maybe

 

[Mahamed zh]

Smallest prove on exist God is Cell
tell me if any human or any scientist can made it
of course no no one can do it and it dont made by themselve

 

[~Lumos~]

You might think the things you are saying sound pretty smart and logical, but well,,,THEY DON'T! and you are only repeating what your religion ( Islam) have told you , please , pleaaaaaase , please for once, think for yourself , don't let your religion have any influence on your mind.
Btw, Quran has so many flaws that I'm not gonna say, cause I'm considerate of people's feeling for their religions.

Spoiler

There is actually a verse in Quran saying there are invisible pillars holding the world....whatttt thaa****** ? U_U

First Of all this thread doesn't say anything about realting religion ok it it maker of this thread wants us to share our views on question asked by him..


And second of all bashing and flaming others religion is not a kind deed I m a muslim and i find no flaw in Holy Quran n if u think it has then properly give reference to the verse just saying things wont prove your point..
And PM me this becos it will be consider as spam in this thread

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Good for you. But kindly refrain from calling everyone who believes in God an idiot, as doing that only proves that you are one. I don't appreciate what he's doing either, i.e: trying to impose his views on others.

i didn't call him an idiot but hes trying to act like like god is a scientificly proven fact which doesn't warrent a respectful response.

I dont want to reply ur stupid answers about ur dog i think u r missing him is he dead or something that u r continuously talking about it in such serious thread

did i say dog? no i said T.rex...maybe you didn't get the hint i was refering to made up things (not that t.rexes are made up, but this one is) i see god as the grown up imaginary friend, what else is invisible, unseeable,unfeelable, isn't made of anything, doesn't age... oh i know made up things!

Smallest prove on exist God is Cell
tell me if any human or any scientist can made it
of course no no one can do it and it dont made by themselve

Evolution

 

[Dragon Lord]

You might think the things you are saying sound pretty smart and logical, but well,,,THEY DON'T! and you are only repeating what your religion ( Islam) have told you , please , pleaaaaaase , please for once, think for yourself , don't let your religion have any influence on your mind.
Btw, Quran has so many flaws that I'm not gonna say, cause I'm considerate of people's feeling for their religions.

Spoiler

There is actually a verse in Quran saying there are invisible pillars holding the world....whatttt thaa****** ? U_U

Oh, i love this Girl! "just expression" lol, anyway, one thing you should know, THEY WILL NEVER LISTEN!!, because they dont wanna listen!!, even if you handed him the proof right now about everything "into his hands" - HE WOULD STILL SAY THE SAME!!, because human needs to feel secure in the heart, and believe in something!, without it, the world would go into chaos!!, so perhaps people made religion because they couldnt stand feeling all alone in this world!, that there is no higher being to watch over them, so usually the unintelligent people stick to religion and close their little imagination even more!!

so whats the point of you talking to him about this when his imagination shop is closed? lol

 

[Sonne]

I find this funny.
Someone creates a thread connected to Naruto in a Naruto forum in every way possible,good content and stuff,he gets 10 replies and 20 views tops.
Someone creates a Religion thread,in under 10 minutes it goes to 2 pages.

Amazing.

 

[Cyborg]

You might think the things you are saying sound pretty smart and logical, but well,,,THEY DON'T! and you are only repeating what your religion ( Islam) have told you , please , pleaaaaaase , please for once, think for yourself , don't let your religion have any influence on your mind.
Btw, Quran has so many flaws that I'm not gonna say, cause I'm considerate of people's feeling for their religions.

Spoiler

There is actually a verse in Quran saying there are invisible pillars holding the world....whatttt thaa****** ? U_U

That's the old testament you are referring to, and if you had so much respect for other ppl, u would'nt have bothered to post.

 

[Dragon Lord]

Smallest prove on exist God is Cell
tell me if any human or any scientist can made it
of course no no one can do it and it dont made by themselve

for a long time people couldnt even imagine electricity or light or going to the moon - yet they did, i hope that answered ur answer!

 

[Anduril]

Your question sire is the one the at least a eight thousand scientists (might be more) at cern in a laboratory that stretches over miles are trying to determine may be they will succeed in getting some questions if not all answered.
Also personally the human imagination is limited we could only imagine the plausible we cannot think the unthinkable there could be information like anything that is yet to be tapped by man that is why while answering such big questions the scientists start by breaking the questions into smaller questions and then answering those questions separately and then to bring it together and see if it answers the bigger question
also regarding your question i have a theory of interlaced world where we reach the limits of our univers we enter another universe but with different charachteristics and different time happenings and such many universes are interlaced together this theory has a name which i forgot but seems for my little imagination to be plausible.
Thank u

 

[~Lumos~]

You might think the things you are saying sound pretty smart and logical, but well,,,THEY DON'T! and you are only repeating what your religion ( Islam) have told you , please , pleaaaaaase , please for once, think for yourself , don't let your religion have any influence on your mind.
Btw, Quran has so many flaws that I'm not gonna say, cause I'm considerate of people's feeling for their religions.

Spoiler

There is actually a verse in Quran saying there are invisible pillars holding the world....whatttt thaa****** ? U_U

You have no clue what u r saying

The verse says:

VERSE 13:2 of QURAN means that "Who hold the skies WHICH YOU SEE WITHOUT PILLARS..etc.There is no mentions about the word INVISIBLE as some PEOPLE claim.​

Plz dont discuss religion becos it will becom off topic

 

[Dragon Lord]

Your question sire is the one the at least a eight thousand scientists (might be more) at cern in a laboratory that stretches over miles are trying to determine may be they will succeed in getting some questions if not all answered.
Also personally the human imagination is limited we could only imagine the plausible we cannot think the unthinkable there could be information like anything that is yet to be tapped by man that is why while answering such big questions the scientists start by breaking the questions into smaller questions and then answering those questions separately and then to bring it together and see if it answers the bigger question
also regarding your question i have a theory of interlaced world where we reach the limits of our univers we enter another universe but with different charachteristics and different time happenings and such many universes are interlaced together this theory has a name which i forgot but seems for my little imagination to be plausible.
Thank u

anything is possible, perhaps all of our thoughts has some truth in it, but not completely

sometimes i think, what if the universe was also orbiting around something!, something even bigger! - we do know that the universe is shaped kinda like the planets and its expanding, what if outside of our universe there are things we cant even imagine!! - things so big, that makes the universe look like an atom!!, colors we havnt seen voices we havnt heard, feelings we havnt felt, sizes and shapes that doesnt make sense, and things that break the limit of our imagination!!

one thing im interested in - is creating or finding a feeling that is even greater than love! - a feeling which us humans cannot yet imagine!!

 

[Mahamed zh]

for a long time people couldnt even imagine electricity or light or going to the moon - yet they did, i hope that answered ur answer!

you mean in future can be made cell but you are wrong beacause human cant make natural cell
yea we made heart but handiwork heart not natural arent we?!

 

[Phobos]

we already know that small particles are created from nothing (those pairs- particle and its counter part). They dissapear soon after created tho, but if this can happen maybe there was something like this at the begining without those particles dissapearing by some retardedly small chance matter came to exist -.- all of it in one place something like ultra big black hole then --somehow -- black hole exploded spreading all this matter around
oh and calculating how long this universe exists is pretty easy (if that calculation is right ofcourse ) u need just few information and can do the calculation, we just had this in school a few weeks ago

 

[Dragon Lord]

I find this funny.
Someone creates a thread connected to Naruto in a Naruto forum in every way possible,good content and stuff,he gets 10 replies and 20 views tops.
Someone creates a Religion thread,in under 10 minutes it goes to 2 pages.

Amazing.

ITS NOT A RELIGION THREAD!! - ITS A SCIENCE THREAD!!, is it my fault that some people always replace science with religion?!

i guess its true if u think of it.., religion is the enemy of science!!, but science is not always the enemy of religion, because true science consideres all possibilities!!

 

[Anduril]

anything is possible, perhaps all of our thoughts has some truth in it, but not completely

sometimes i think, what if the universe was also orbiting around something!, something even bigger! - we do know that the universe is shaped kinda like the planets and its expanding, what if outside of our universe there are things we cant even imagine!! - things so big, that makes the universe look like an atom!!, colors we havnt seen voices we havnt heard, feelings we havnt felt, sizes and shapes that doesnt make sense, and things that break the limit of our imagination!!

one thing im interested in - is creating or finding a feeling that is even greater than love! - a feeling which us humans cannot yet imagine!!

Our life is our limitation one life is not enough only if we could preserve our brains in the bodies of steel!!! That would be awesome who needs heart its useless!!

 

[Dragon Lord]

Our life is our limitation one life is not enough only if we could preserve our brains in the bodies of steel!!! That would be awesome who needs heart its useless!!

no its not useless, without a heart, there is no purpose!