[Discussion] Is Itachi hokage material

siyo

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Feb 4, 2010
Messages
2,531
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Hmm, i have no doubt, that he was one of the greatest shinobi s ever, but i don't see him as hokage. Why? Simply because of the burden the leaf elders put on him as a young adult, when he was ordered to kill his entire clan.It destroyed him inside, and it resulted in him having no soul, and becoming a robot.His only ties leading back to being human was sasuke(that is why he found piece when he gave his powers to him).
 

eyesofthekyuubi44

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jun 14, 2009
Messages
3,984
Kin
4💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I think he's Hokage material, behind the 4th and the 1st (seeing as the 1st is the only one who can deal with those eyes).

He'd definitely be a better Hokage than Kakashi, who would do a great job as well, but not on Itachi's level.

WAYYY better than Tsunade, who only has the right to be Kage based on the fact that she's a Sannin (which is starting to get overshadowed).
 

NarutoVsGoku

Active member
Elite
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
5,036
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Itachi might have aquired the position of Hokage in time. He could have challanged for the position and proven himself.

Itachi made supreme personal sacrfices... It wouldn't help if he had committed suicide and let his clan commit coup d etate and all that. Only thing he refused to sacrifice was Sasuke and he seeked Sarutobi and then Naruto to help him save Sasuke.

Naruto has a different background, different personality and different abilities. Comparing apple with oranges is of no use.
i dont think so. Itachi doesnt even seem to be leader material.

Itachi sacrificed his whole family. he sacrificed others. yes he sacrificed his emotions and reputations but he did something that the past Hokages, Naruto, Kakashi and everybody else with the will of fire would have never done.

he didnt seek Naruto or Hiruzen to help. quite frankly Itachi didnt even show that he even loved his family and clan. his love for Sasuke is unquestionable but why the special treatment to his little brother? why not give the same to his mother, father, best friend etc?

Keep in mind that the acting Hokage at the time was Sarutobi Hiruzen, and he was against the elders and Danzou's view that they needed to wipe out the Uchiha. Itachi had seen war, knew it was hell, and knew allowing the Uchiha to revolt would leave the entire village vulnerable to other countries invading. He was only maybe 16? He was manipulated to an extent, and to the other extent faced an impossible choice. Usually, it's not the soldiers who are condemned for such acts; rather, it's the leaders. I understand what you're getting at though.

Power wise, I have no question that at the time of Tsunade's coma he would've been a superior choice to either Danzou or Kakashi.

However, Itachi does have some character issues. First, to be as powerful as he was, he killed his best friend Shisui. Second, if he was to continue as Hokage he'd need to see (i.e. EMS); thus, he'd need to take Sasuke's eyes after awakening Sasuke's MS. If he was healthy, he could've done it easily. Instead, he prolonged the battle to remove Orochimaru, implant Ameratsu, and awaken Sasuke's MS.

I think people might wonder how he got such nice eyes. However, only the Uchiha would know, among those who knew of the tablet. But it may become public knowledge as he's more visible as a Hokage, than ANBU or Akatsuki. That's a concern. I do believe he'd die for Konoha though, without a second thought. Consider the life he accepted, which was his own hell.

A visually impaired, near death, Itachi kept Madara from touching Konoha both do to agreement, and I doubt Madara had any desire to fight him knowing he was dying at that such a fight would be costly (partially that Madara needed him alive to awaken Sasuke's MS and for his eyes -> Sasuke's EMS). Sasuke is obviously much easier to manipulate.
like you said Sarutobi was againt the genocide of the Uchiha. but Danzo and Itachi who shared ideals werent. Danzo was not a favored Hokage in the eyes of his village and even the other Kages. because of his ideals and methods. Itachi was not much different.

but Tsunade was more favored by the village and fellow Kages. she shared the ideals of Sarutobi, the past Kages, Naruto and Kakahi etc. all these people would first sacrifice themselves before a loved one or family. if Naruto was in Itachi's situation you think he would have killed his clan?

but basically we are in agreement. Itachi's characters is not suitable for role of Hokage
 

Avani

Supreme
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
20,189
Kin
5,693💸
Kumi
497💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Keep in mind that the acting Hokage at the time was Sarutobi Hiruzen, and he was against the elders and Danzou's view that they needed to wipe out the Uchiha. Itachi had seen war, knew it was hell, and knew allowing the Uchiha to revolt would leave the entire village vulnerable to other countries invading. He was only maybe 16? He was manipulated to an extent, and to the other extent faced an impossible choice. Usually, it's not the soldiers who are condemned for such acts; rather, it's the leaders. I understand what you're getting at though.

Power wise, I have no question that at the time of Tsunade's coma he would've been a superior choice to either Danzou or Kakashi.

However, Itachi does have some character issues. First, to be as powerful as he was, he killed his best friend Shisui. Second, if he was to continue as Hokage he'd need to see (i.e. EMS); thus, he'd need to take Sasuke's eyes after awakening Sasuke's MS. If he was healthy, he could've done it easily. Instead, he prolonged the battle to remove Orochimaru, implant Ameratsu, and awaken Sasuke's MS.

I think people might wonder how he got such nice eyes. However, only the Uchiha would know, among those who knew of the tablet. But it may become public knowledge as he's more visible as a Hokage, than ANBU or Akatsuki. That's a concern. I do believe he'd die for Konoha though, without a second thought. Consider the life he accepted, which was his own hell.

A visually impaired, near death, Itachi kept Madara from touching Konoha both do to agreement, and I doubt Madara had any desire to fight him knowing he was dying at that such a fight would be costly (partially that Madara needed him alive to awaken Sasuke's MS and for his eyes -> Sasuke's EMS). Sasuke is obviously much easier to manipulate.
You have a point and Itachi might have been more of a Danzou kind than Sarutobi. But I feel that he never got a chance to develope his personality under right circumstances. He was passifist by nature. He avoided fighting unless he must and then tried to end it as quickly as possible. So I doubt he would be as bad as Danzou.

He might have realised Danzou's sefishness when he found out that he didn't share details about Madara. Sai's tounge seal makes me wonder if Itachi had one like that stopping him from telling Sarutobi details about Danzou's plans.

He certainly tried to control Danzou and Madara as much as he could.

He was around 11 and a half when Shisui died. Shisui was certainly older and was quite a friend and brotherly and at the same time keeping an eye on him for the clan. :rolleyes: I don't know abot Itachi but if I found out the person I thought was my friend was hanging out with me on clan's orders I would dump him.

He was a little over 13 at the time of Uchiha massacre. As he joined ambu at the age of 11 and was made captain at 13. He might have been genious as a shinobi but, he still lacked experience and was a young. He got surounded by likes of Danzou and Madara who were more interested in manipulating him than guiding him.

Itachi, Nagato etc were nothing but a wasted talent.
 

NarutoVsGoku

Active member
Elite
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
5,036
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
You have a point and Itachi might have been more of a Danzou kind than Sarutobi. But I feel that he never got a chance to develope his personality under right circumstances. He was passifist by nature. He avoided fighting unless he must and then tried to end it as quickly as possible. So I doubt he would be as bad as Danzou.

He might have realised Danzou's sefishness when he found out that he didn't share details about Madara. Sai's tounge seal makes me wonder if Itachi had one like that stopping him from telling Sarutobi details about Danzou's plans.

He certainly tried to control Danzou and Madara as much as he could.

He was around 11 and a half when Shisui died. Shisui was certainly older and was quite a friend and brotherly and at the same time keeping an eye on him for the clan. :rolleyes: I don't know abot Itachi but if I found out the person I thought was my friend was hanging out with me on clan's orders I would dump him.

He was a little over 13 at the time of Uchiha massacre. As he joined ambu at the age of 11 and was made captain at 13. He might have been genious as a shinobi but, he still lacked experience and was a young. He got surounded by likes of Danzou and Madara who were more interested in manipulating him than guiding him.

Itachi, Nagato etc were nothing but a wasted talent.
i doubt Itachi really cared to tell anybody of Madara's presence. and i dont Danzo had a seal on Itachi to keep him from talking. if he did than how would Itachi blackmail Danzo by threatning to tell the Leaf's secrets to rival villages? remember he returned to the Leaf after Sarutobi died?

and Danzo was in charge of Root Anbu. not all of Anbu. Itachi was not in the Root Division. the Root Anbus start off from when they are born to be in it like Sai and his brother, whereas the regular Anbus once where regular ninjas etc Yamato, Kakashi and Itachi

Itachi didnt try to control Danzo or Madara. they obviously were in control of him. all Itachi could do was blackmail them.

Shisui's death was fairly close to the time of the massacre of Uchihas.. if you noticed Sasuke was relatively the same age at both Shisui's death and Uchiha massacre. i'd estimate Itachi was about 15-18 when he killed his clan...
 

Walfar

Member
Joined
May 5, 2011
Messages
58
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
i would say Naruto as hokage, and Shikamaru and Sakura as advicers:) just my oppinion..Naruto's got the punch and the will to selfsacrafice, Shikamaru got the brains and Sakura packed the punch if Naruto went doing something radical as usual :p
 

Rihari

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Sep 23, 2010
Messages
11,788
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
yeah he would be one of the best hokages ever but i dont think he will be as good as naruto will be and i dont think he would be as good as the 4th
 

Avani

Supreme
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
20,189
Kin
5,693💸
Kumi
497💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
i doubt Itachi really cared to tell anybody of Madara's presence. and i dont Danzo had a seal on Itachi to keep him from talking. if he did than how would Itachi blackmail Danzo by threatning to tell the Leaf's secrets to rival villages? remember he returned to the Leaf after Sarutobi died?

and Danzo was in charge of Root Anbu. not all of Anbu. Itachi was not in the Root Division. the Root Anbus start off from when they are born to be in it like Sai and his brother, whereas the regular Anbus once where regular ninjas etc Yamato, Kakashi and Itachi

Itachi didnt try to control Danzo or Madara. they obviously were in control of him. all Itachi could do was blackmail them.
Shisui's death was fairly close to the time of the massacre of Uchihas.. if you noticed Sasuke was relatively the same age at both Shisui's death and Uchiha massacre. i'd estimate Itachi was about 15-18 when he killed his clan...
I won't argue about the rest because it's based on speculations and opinions. Do we know when Root originated? How long and in how many ways Danzou did his recruiting ? That bolded part contradicts itself as it is.

Shisui's death was way before the Massacre. Itachi passed academy at the age of 8.He was selected in Ambu at the age of 11. After 6 months Shisui died. Itachi was made captain at 13. Massacre took plce some time after that.

Naruto was already 11 when the series starts I think. I will check out the manga. But since Itachi was too young at the time of hokage's death and not yet in academy it means he was less than 7.

So It's more likely that Itachi was around 17-18 when he returned to Konoha after Sarutobi's death..
 
Last edited:

Kakashi Fang

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Messages
4,339
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Itachi would be a great Hokage for the Leaf Village, he is very powerful, he is very smart, and also has alot of experience under his belt at such a young age.
 

Scorps

Active member
Supreme
Joined
May 23, 2008
Messages
25,974
Kin
613💸
Kumi
408💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
nah...he was just weird. Power without much taught... I mean.... He killed inoccents and children of his own clan... And none have ever quite comprehend exactly why was that necessary... Sorry itachi fans, but hell no!
 

NarutoVsGoku

Active member
Elite
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
5,036
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I won't argue about the rest because it's based on speculations and opinions. Do we know when Root originated? How long and in how many ways Danzou did his recruiting ? That bolded part contradicts itself as it is.

Shisui's death was way before the Massacre. Itachi passed academy at the age of 8.He was selected in Ambu at the age of 11. After 6 months Shisui died. Itachi was made captain at 13. Massacre took plce some time after that.

Naruto was already 11 when the series starts I think. I will check out the manga. But since Itachi was too young at the time of hokage's death and not yet in academy it means he was less than 7.

So It's more likely that Itachi was around 17-18 when he returned to Konoha after Sarutobi's death..
Sasuke was the same age when Shisui was killed and when the massacre happened. 6 years old. so no you are wrong. shisuis death and masscre of the clan were relatively close

and i didnt base nothing on speculatioin but on the manga itself.

not a hokage material. not at that age anyway...
if Anub says Itachi isnt Hokage material than thats how you know he isnt.
 

Lostdreams

Active member
Regular
Joined
Jan 19, 2011
Messages
763
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Skill and intelligence wise of course but though i see him more compassionate then Danzou i still feel they are alike.

Itatchi did something thats out of character for an hokage and that's sacrificing in the way he did... sarutobi could kill Orochimaru even though he knew it would be his downfall,The 4th didn't let sarutobi sacrifice his life and rather seal the kyuubi himself.
Even Naruto didnt kill Sasuke when he had the chance.

But Itatchi was willing to destroy his clan in such a methodical way.Yes, he saved the leaf but i dont see other hokages planning to go that route.
 
Top