Itachi vs "xyz"

Who Can Beat Itachi? (poll is multi. can choose more than 1)


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NO brain use required loll only Minato can beat Itachi
MAYBE Madara and Jiraiya MAYBE*
(Hashirama, and Tobirama im unsure about they could possible beat Itachi but doubt Tobirama would and again MAYBE Hashirama he has a better chance)
Sasuke can NOT and i repeat can NOT beat Itachi
Naruto from seeing their encounters can Not beat Itachi either
Raikage and Killer Bee will Not beat Itachi
Deidara was Beatin by Itachi (only using Genjutsu) and then Deidara was recruited by Itachi into the Akatsuki
EVERYONE ELSE STANDS NO CHANCE!!!! THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER!!!
P.S THE PAINS WILL BE CAUGHT IN A GENJUTSU N BE IMMOBILIZED AKA KILLED, DESTROYED. WITHOUT THEM NAGATO CAN NOT PUT UP A FIGHT AGAINST ITACHI AT HIS STATE
maybe next time you should use your brain.

Hashirama was the strongest shinobi of his time. he beat the strongest Uchiha of his time and your unsure he can beat Itachi?

Tobirama is no stranger to the powers of sharingan and MS. he too is more than capable of beating Itachi.

Sasuke has Itachi's eyes. Itachi cannot do anything that Sasuke cannot. Sasuke can do things that Itachi cannot. Kiri, chidori, manipulate amaterasu, bow and arrow Sasunoo, etc.

your going to use the past encounters Naruto and Itachi had to say Naruto cant win? thats like me saying Sasuke cant beat Rock Lee because in their last encounter Lee beat Sasuke. smh

Raikage and Bee both proved that they are immune to many of the MS jutsus and can fight agaisnt it. Tsukiyomi cannot stop Bee, Amaterasu cant touch Raikage, etc etc.

Deidara was different back than. he wasnt prepared for genjutsu. he has trained his eye to counter genjutsu. he has prepared a explosion technique just for Itachi.

Pain is unaffected by certain genjutsus. genjutsu didnt work for Pain when Animal Path was being interogated by Ebizu. but anyways Pain is on another level than Itachi. there is a reason why Pain was in charge of Akatsuki and Itachi was taking orders from him.

sasori will die in a matter of seconds to itachi :flaw: he will just use amaterasu befor sasori can do anything so yea
i'll terminate my NB account if you can show me in the manga at least one time where someone died from Amaterasu!

1.zetsu is not a front line fighter madara said so.

2.kakashi said that he needed the others help to win.

3.deidera lost to sasuke and sasuke almost lost to a sick, blind, not even trying itachi. so even if you count itachi at the sasuke battle he would still lose.

4.I don't consider impure world resurrection to be him actually fighting. and your practically saying that it is kabuto vs the ninja alliance plus 100,000 of zetsu clones as side arms.And narutos' multi shadow clone jutsu is just a million of himself while edo tensei is other ninjas ganging up on you.

5.it has never been stated that madara was the strongest uchiha an history it just says that his chakra was strong for an uchiha. and yamato would either be to slow for itachi, wouldn't predict/react to any of his attacks and he would fall for his tsukuyomi or amaturasu or susano'o. and just because you have there cells doesn't mean your as strong. danzo had 10 sharingan izanagi and hashiramas' cells and couldn't beet sasuke.

6.kinkaku and ginkaku aren't 1 person and itachi could beat both of them. he can't get touched by their attacks so no killer catchphrase come up with a strategie and hit with genjutsu.
if Zetsu wasnt a fighter than wtf would Madara make an army of them? lol

Kakashi said he needed Naruto as back up. but Kakashi is still alot stronger than the second time he faced Itachi.

Deidara blew himself up. Sasuke was out of chakra and could barely move. Sasuke was lucky he had the snake to protect him and Suigetsu to summon him.

also Sasuke is alot more different than the last time he faced Itachi. he even has Itachi's eyes now. not only does he has his powers but he has Itachi's powers as well.

Kabuto is using a jutsu. EdoTensi is a jutsu. a technique. a weapon. so whether you dont consider him fighting or not it is Kabuto's technique, and Kabutos in control, able to make the Edo Tensi's do his bidding. so in other words you are wrong and it is Kabuto fighting. that is why Itachi wouldnt be able to beat Kabuto because Kabuto can summon a massive army of powerful ninjas to jump Itachi. Pain, jinchurikis, kin gin, deidara, sasori, kakuzu, kimmimaru, hanzo, past kages, etc. you telling me Itachi can fight all the legendary ninjas byhimself and win?

you should reread the manga. its implied that Madara was the strongest Uchiha in history. he was probably the strongest ninja in history second to the 1st. but anyways Itachi couldnt even take out Madara. Konan was closer to taking him out than he was. Madara is way powerful than Itachi. whether EMS Madara or Tobi/Madara.

Mangekyou Sharingan is not invincible. Hashirama who was a wood style user beat Madara who had EMS. so how hard is it to believe that Yamato can beat Itachi? Danzo wasnt even going full on Sasuke. he was saving energy to also fight Madara.

Kinkaku and Ginkaku fight as a team. but anyways either together or alone they both can beat Itachi. they have way more power than Itachi. and eventually Itachi would be hit by the rope. especially since Itachi doesnt even know their secret. Itachi would never know how the Treasures work, would never know about the word game and would be sealed because he would be silent long enough to be sealed.
 

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lol no way that doesnt count! and how do people even remember that? that was like a tiny detail out of the whole story but people rememeber a snake being burned by black flames??
Lmao... A deal is a deal. Snake was the essence of Orochimaru, therefore Orochimaru is dead because of it. Thanks to Itachi.
 

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i'll terminate my NB account if you can show me in the manga at least one time where someone died from Amaterasu!
Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't true. We've been told that Hashirama and Madara are these extremely powerful ninja, but have we seen them fight or kill someone? Tobi is Tobi until further notice, so Madara himself was not shown that much, but we still believe he was the strongest uchiha and bla bla. Amaterasu has been said to be one of the strongest ninjutsu in existence. There's no denying it.
 

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I never said I could. lol u must be high.

anyway here's the clip from anime:

the clip starts at 07:45
Hmmm. I watched this clip quite a few times I believe Kisame may be talking about Naruto and his transformation into the Kyuubi. I mean makes sense were Kisame believes the Sharingan will work best on the kyuubi but Itachi knows it will take a lot of toll on his eyes and he may even get blind.

I mean logically speaking Itachi and Kisame can take Jiriaya you got Kisame and Samehada who eats Ninjutsu which most of Jiriaya's move revolves around and than Itachi who's smart tactic and abilities will help him and Kisame thru this easily.



That's why I doubt they were talking about Jiriaya unless the manga and anime are just messed like that or they were talking about taking Pein out but I doubt that LOL
 

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Hmmm. I watched this clip quite a few times I believe Kisame may be talking about Naruto and his transformation into the Kyuubi. I mean makes sense were Kisame believes the Sharingan will work best on the kyuubi but Itachi knows it will take a lot of toll on his eyes and he may even get blind.

I mean logically speaking Itachi and Kisame can take Jiriaya you got Kisame and Samehada who eats Ninjutsu which most of Jiriaya's move revolves around and than Itachi who's smart tactic and abilities will help him and Kisame thru this easily.



That's why I doubt they were talking about Jiriaya unless the manga and anime are just messed like that or they were talking about taking Pein out but I doubt that LOL

Well they can't be talking about Naruto 'cause it would sound ridiculous that Itachi would think they would die against Naruto lol. And if the would've,why they went straight to Naruto's place after he was separated from Jiraya? What ur saying sounds so far fetched. So yea they were talking about Jman. Either it sounds logical or not.

I think the manga and anime go little bit different like that, 'cause anime came later and Kishi obviously wanted the scene to go differently then. Not that it matters to story.
And lol no Pain isn't even a possibility.
 

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Well they can't be talking about Naruto 'cause it would sound ridiculous that Itachi would think they would die against Naruto lol. And if the would've,why they went straight to Naruto's place after he was separated from Jiraya? What ur saying sounds so far fetched. So yea they were talking about Jman. Either it sounds logical or not.

I think the manga and anime go little bit different like that, 'cause anime came later and Kishi obviously wanted the scene to go differently then. Not that it matters to story.
And lol no Pain isn't even a possibility.
I wasn't referring to Naruto but was referring to the Kyuubi inside him. The Kyuubi is far powerful than any other tailed beast. (Which is what Kisame and Itachi maybe fearing that if it get loose)

At the end of the manga page I showed you Itachi also says something like, "If it's true about Naruto...than we don't have to be hasty." What I guess he may mean about that not saying it's true just a thought he either knows Naruto hasn't controlled the Kyuubi yet and obviously it isn't a walk in the park thats why Itachi believes it won't be that hard to capture him.

Itachi even said if their were more people still would be the same outcome. I can see that with the Kyuubi but not Jiriaya. That page and the anime epi you showed just doesn't go together if you know what I mean but oh well guess will never know than. .
 

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I wasn't referring to Naruto but was referring to the Kyuubi inside him. The Kyuubi is far powerful than any other tailed beast. (Which is what Kisame and Itachi maybe fearing that if it get loose)

At the end of the manga page I showed you Itachi also says something like, "If it's true about Naruto...than we don't have to be hasty." What I guess he may mean about that not saying it's true just a thought he either knows Naruto hasn't controlled the Kyuubi yet and obviously it isn't a walk in the park thats why Itachi believes it won't be that hard to capture him.

Itachi even said if their were more people still would be the same outcome. I can see that with the Kyuubi but not Jiriaya. That page and the anime epi you showed just doesn't go together if you know what I mean but oh well guess will never know than. .
I know you meant Kyuubi Naruto.

I guess that Itachi said that about Naruto 'cause he didn't wanna hurt people of Konoha as was stated long after that. And so avoided confronting them as much as possible. And that being said it could also be that, that was the case when he said those things about Jiraya.

I agree, but he still said it so it's pointless to speculate so yeah, don't think we'll ever get answer to that.
 

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I know you meant Kyuubi Naruto.

I guess that Itachi said that about Naruto 'cause he didn't wanna hurt people of Konoha as was stated long after that. And so avoided confronting them as much as possible. And that being said it could also be that, that was the case when he said those things about Jiraya.

I agree, but he still said it so it's pointless to speculate so yeah, don't think we'll ever get answer to that.
Exactly, We shared are thoughts and they maybe different from one another but it's not like we will know the answer.

As for Itachi goes I have a feeling once we get to Tobi's flashbacks we will get to know Itachi a lot more and who he was in his youth
 

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Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't true. We've been told that Hashirama and Madara are these extremely powerful ninja, but have we seen them fight or kill someone? Tobi is Tobi until further notice, so Madara himself was not shown that much, but we still believe he was the strongest uchiha and bla bla. Amaterasu has been said to be one of the strongest ninjutsu in existence. There's no denying it.
lol no dount Amaterasu has killed a few people off screen! but on screen it has done nothing much! i think as a great jutsu its overrated. and i hate it when people say "Itachi will just use Amaterasu and match over" or something like that lol smh..
 

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lol no dount Amaterasu has killed a few people off screen! but on screen it has done nothing much! i think as a great jutsu its overrated. and i hate it when people say "Itachi will just use Amaterasu and match over" or something like that lol smh..
Yeah but that goes wit every character.

KinGin's use their rope and seal the person or Sasori uses the poison and it's over. LOL you get what I mean
 

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I don't get how a genjutsu would not work on Sasori? It's true Sasori is quite strong and his 100 puppets will be a lot to handle but if Itachi focuses on Sasori all he has to do is capture him in a genjutsu's and wouldn't it than cancel out the 100 puppet tech of his? I don't think his puppets are living things that can get him out of genjutsu but than I could be missing something about him. And how would the poison take out Susanoo? Also in the latest anime didn't really catch this in the manga but when Gaara asked Tobi about Sasuke Tobi said he wanted Susanoo becuase it's a rare tech and powerful. Someone like Tobi after that tech even tho he knows Izanagi.
the gentsu not working on sasori comes from the fact that genjutsu affects the chakra circulatory system and with a puppet body there wuld be no chakra circulatory system...

Poison mist wuld not take out susanno..it wuld take out the user inside susanno...itachi would have to breath whil einsde susanno that means air can pass,if air can then poison mist can
 

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the gentsu not working on sasori comes from the fact that genjutsu affects the chakra circulatory system and with a puppet body there wuld be no chakra circulatory system...

Poison mist wuld not take out susanno..it wuld take out the user inside susanno...itachi would have to breath whil einsde susanno that means air can pass,if air can then poison mist can
You pretty much nailed it
 

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lol no dount Amaterasu has killed a few people off screen! but on screen it has done nothing much! i think as a great jutsu its overrated. and i hate it when people say "Itachi will just use Amaterasu and match over" or something like that lol smh..
Well that's the thing : You're saying that amaterasu is over-rated because it hasn't killed anyone on screen, but the fact is that if kishi decided to end a major fight with amaterasu, the whole fight would have been a huge let-down. Just imagine if Sasuke would have finished off Raikage with amaterasu, or Danzo with amaterasu. Then the whole point of the long, dragged fights with the winner somehow brilliantly making it just with a bit of chakra in the end would all be gone and naruto will take a more realistic turn in this sense, but also a more boring one. We know that amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsu, but whatever the jutsu may be, if someone uses it early in the fight, obviously the fight won't end because it needs to drag a few episodes to please all the action fans. When we debate about vs we use logic and don't look at fights the same way kishi does. He wants to drag them and the winner always (or at least most of the times) needs to win by a small margin. We, on the other hand, imagine the fighter would automatically use his best weapons from the beginning and try to end the fight ASAP. We, as debaters, need to understand that difference and because of it we need to adapt our debates accordingly.

At least that's what I believe.
 
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Hmmm. I watched this clip quite a few times I believe Kisame may be talking about Naruto and his transformation into the Kyuubi. I mean makes sense were Kisame believes the Sharingan will work best on the kyuubi but Itachi knows it will take a lot of toll on his eyes and he may even get blind.

I mean logically speaking Itachi and Kisame can take Jiriaya you got Kisame and Samehada who eats Ninjutsu which most of Jiriaya's move revolves around and than Itachi who's smart tactic and abilities will help him and Kisame thru this easily.



That's why I doubt they were talking about Jiriaya unless the manga and anime are just messed like that or they were talking about taking Pein out but I doubt that LOL
Thats exactly what I was thinking because they say "he might kill us, and even if we kill him we will die in the process" and then Kisame says "and his caretaker is the lengendary sannin" He has to be talking about Naruto in that situation.

But that doesn't seem logical if we really think about it.
 

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Yeah but that goes wit every character.

KinGin's use their rope and seal the person or Sasori uses the poison and it's over. LOL you get what I mean
lol true but we did witness KinGin sealing at least 2 peoples. 3 if you count Darui who lucked out in the last second. also Sasori's poison almost killed Kankuro, Sakura and Chiyo. its because Sakura was a great medic and Chiyo with her knowledge and jutsus that allowed them to win.

but anyways my point is rope and seal, and poison have done more damge than Amaterasu. but i get what your saying.

the gentsu not working on sasori comes from the fact that genjutsu affects the chakra circulatory system and with a puppet body there wuld be no chakra circulatory system...

Poison mist wuld not take out susanno..it wuld take out the user inside susanno...itachi would have to breath whil einsde susanno that means air can pass,if air can then poison mist can
thats well said and well put man

Well that's the thing : You're saying that amaterasu is over-rated because it hasn't killed anyone on screen, but the fact is that if kishi decided to end a major fight with amaterasu, the whole fight would have been a huge let-down. Just imagine if Sasuke would have finished off Raikage with amaterasu, or Danzo with amaterasu. Then the whole point of the long, dragged fights with the winner somehow brilliantly making it just with a bit of chakra in the end would all be gone and naruto will take a more realistic turn in this sense, but also a more boring one. We know that amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsu, but whatever the jutsu may be, if someone uses it early in the fight, obviously the fight won't end because it needs to drag a few episodes to please all the action fans. When we debate about vs we use logic and don't look at fights the same way kishi does. He wants to drag them and the winner always (or at least most of the times) needs to win by a small margin. We, on the other hand, imagine the fighter would automatically use his best weapons from the beginning and try to end the fight ASAP. We, as debaters, need to understand that difference and because of it we need to adapt our debates accordingly.

At least that's what I believe.
your abslutely right! but i dont take the storytelling as an excuse for why Amaterasu has failed in all its attempts to defeat an opponent. the fact that through the storytelling and all the moments where Amaterasu has failed is justification to say Amaterasu is an overrated technique.

Amaterasu could have at least killed that one random Samurai that was hit by accident instead o Raikage, but even than Kishi spared him, he was saved, just by Kankuro and Temari removing his armor. Amaterasu cant even kill a random Samurai, let alone ninjas
 

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Itachi and Kisame didn't run from Jiraiya. Re-read the manga; Kisame states why running was "necessary" for itachi. Madara said Itachi disliked fighting, remember? Itachi has been avoiding almost all fights since he was introduced. He had more than two chances of capturing Naruto yet he didn't. He had the opportunity to kill Kakashi twice but he didn't. He spared Gai, Asuma, Kurenai.

People who can beat Itachi:

Pain can outlast Itachi. Edo Tensei Pain vs. Itachi; Itachi would win.

Hashimara for obvious reasons

Madara during 1st Hokages time. Tobi is Tobi until he shows his face imo. Tobi cannot beat Itachi. All we have seen him do is 1 Izanagi and space-time ninjutsu which has a huge weakness as seen from Konan. Tobi also said he had a few 'secrets" that Itachi didn't know about or he would've been dead.

It would be a tie with Minato

2nd Hokage; Space-time Ninjutsu creater/ Edo Tensei.

Kabuto can't beat him 1 on 1 or face to face. He can stand a chance using Edo Tensei.

why would you even mention an edo tensei'd fight? pain vs itachi? lol. just for itachi to win? thats what you called desperate!! and even if immortal pain and itachi fight,still pain would pawn itachi.. imagine a full scale shinra tensei that destroys konoha every 5 sec? how can itachi survive that lol.

madara and pain said that "if" their opponent only knew their secret they would have lost. but that is just their way of being humble.. still itachi and jiraiya fails to win against them so still they loose whatever you said.. and my point here is you cant base your facts with that simple line "if [insert name] only knew my secret, im dead right now" its just an expression.its kinda dumb if you base the fight with that line.
 
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