The man in the mask is not madara but rikudou senin himself

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A) this is a forum to express all ideas for naruto and the like so if he has a theory that you dont like dont read it simple enough.
B) we all know it cant be proven thats why its a THEORY this is just an idea trying to get people thoughts on the subject, IF we new everything about the charaters the anime would be a little dull dont you think lol.
C) good theory still a little doutfull, i dont think the so6p would talk about his own death the way he did but you never know.
D) what i think is more likley is tobi is madara like he said he is and the person in the coffin is the youngest son of the so6p or the sage himself thats who would scare him hell it could be orocimaru for all we know but there a lot of holes in this theory as well. :)
Reason why people theory bash is because they did not provide evidence as to why they came up with this theory. Its easy for anyone to just state a theory. but its different to have examples from Manga and Anime and give you interpretations to how they got this theory.
 

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TOBI=MADARA....cause madara helped kisame kill the 4th mizukage and when tobi joined akatsuki he followed kisame and showed him his face and kisame was like AHHH...dw i wont tell any1 or something :/
 

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yOU KNow we cant say anything for now,,,,...might be true as IF U REMEMBER , tobi said that the rinnegan was his to begin with ...(so6p ???) but it is also impossible at one point.....the story is having tooooo much suspense and thrill lol =D
 

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well considering the fact that so6p's son got his eye why everyone keeps saying the rinnegan has occured only twice in the history when actually three people possessed it ...
and now its four(or three and a half)
 

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so6p is not a bad theory but there is are examples that disprove this theory. When Tobi says he wants to be complete again it does sound like the so6p wanting to be strong again, Giving Nagato the rinnegan is questionable.

I think he is not the so6p because 1) Who would he be scared of. Why would the so6p fear the last coffin so much that he would have no other choice but to join forces with kabuto during the war. 2) so6P for peace why would he start a war just to create false peace (infinite tsukuyomi).

SO for now Tobi= Madara until he reveals his face and proves otherwise.
To make this theory make sence the coffin could hold the First Son.... Dun Dun Dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
 

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My guess is that 'Tobi' is Izuna Uchiha. The only proof we have of his death is the word of 'Madara'. To fake one's death its obviously necessary to propagate such a rumor. My theory is that Zetsu witnessed the battle at the VoTE and retrieved the eyes, while enjoying a snack, for Izuna. Unforeseen problems arose with the EMS 're-transplant' leaving Izuna at diminished capacity. He poses as Madara for obvioius shock-effect advantage. I agree that Kabuto knows what we all want to know. And that is the truth behind the mask of Tobi. He keeps dropping hints.

Izuna was left with diminished sharingan and was on a quest of vengence and an upgrade. He used Zetsu to be on the lookout for any and all Sharingan of fallen Ninja. He found Obito's eye intact, attached to his crushed body and took it from his dead corpse. Again a snack. Zetsu is impermanent to solids--easy for him. Obito died and is not Evil.

'Izuna-Tobi' made a deal with Danzo. I believe Orochimaru, obsessed with forbidden techniques, was involved with and an agent of Danzo, employed as his 'Dr. Frankenstein'. The deal made to 'harvest' the Uchiha sharingan as weapons... The ultimate Forbidden Uchiha tech--Izanagi. A Tech that closes the eye permanently. Requiring a large supply of disposable Sharingan. The 2 split the booty, entered into a mutual non-aggression pact and rendered a potential threat into non-existence. I believe Orochimaru joined Akatsuki with the orders from Danzo to retrieve Itachi's sharingan. Later, Oro went rogue and desired the Sharingan for himself, pursuing Sasuke.

Izuna, being the equal of Madara and one of the 2 firsts to awaken MS, knows the Secrets of the Sharingan and the history as well as Madara. He took it upon himself to surpass his brother once and for all. To go one step further than Izanagi. To become the 'equal' of the So6P. Insane, but logical.
 

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My guess is that 'Tobi' is Izuna Uchiha. The only proof we have of his death is the word of 'Madara'. To fake one's death its obviously necessary to propagate such a rumor. My theory is that Zetsu witnessed the battle at the VoTE and retrieved the eyes, while enjoying a snack, for Izuna. Unforeseen problems arose with the EMS 're-transplant' leaving Izuna at diminished capacity. He poses as Madara for obvioius shock-effect advantage. I agree that Kabuto knows what we all want to know. And that is the truth behind the mask of Tobi. He keeps dropping hints.

Izuna was left with diminished sharingan and was on a quest of vengence and an upgrade. He used Zetsu to be on the lookout for any and all Sharingan of fallen Ninja. He found Obito's eye intact, attached to his crushed body and took it from his dead corpse. Again a snack. Zetsu is impermanent to solids--easy for him. Obito died and is not Evil.

'Izuna-Tobi' made a deal with Danzo. I believe Orochimaru, obsessed with forbidden techniques, was involved with and an agent of Danzo, employed as his 'Dr. Frankenstein'. The deal made to 'harvest' the Uchiha sharingan as weapons... The ultimate Forbidden Uchiha tech--Izanagi. A Tech that closes the eye permanently. Requiring a large supply of disposable Sharingan. The 2 split the booty, entered into a mutual non-aggression pact and rendered a potential threat into non-existence. I believe Orochimaru joined Akatsuki with the orders from Danzo to retrieve Itachi's sharingan. Later, Oro went rogue and desired the Sharingan for himself, pursuing Sasuke.

Izuna, being the equal of Madara and one of the 2 firsts to awaken MS, knows the Secrets of the Sharingan and the history as well as Madara. He took it upon himself to surpass his brother once and for all. To go one step further than Izanagi. To become the 'equal' of the So6P. Insane, but logical.
true I agree it could be Izuna...cause theres a filler when tobi says i took my brothers eyes...and u c madara trying to take his brothers eyes then suddenly goes black and u hear screaming...But Izuna refused and KILLED His brother (madara) and now hes acting like His brother...the leader :)
 

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My guess is that 'Tobi' is Izuna Uchiha. The only proof we have of his death is the word of 'Madara'. To fake one's death its obviously necessary to propagate such a rumor. My theory is that Zetsu witnessed the battle at the VoTE and retrieved the eyes, while enjoying a snack, for Izuna. Unforeseen problems arose with the EMS 're-transplant' leaving Izuna at diminished capacity. He poses as Madara for obvioius shock-effect advantage. I agree that Kabuto knows what we all want to know. And that is the truth behind the mask of Tobi. He keeps dropping hints.

Izuna was left with diminished sharingan and was on a quest of vengence and an upgrade. He used Zetsu to be on the lookout for any and all Sharingan of fallen Ninja. He found Obito's eye intact, attached to his crushed body and took it from his dead corpse. Again a snack. Zetsu is impermanent to solids--easy for him. Obito died and is not Evil.

'Izuna-Tobi' made a deal with Danzo. I believe Orochimaru, obsessed with forbidden techniques, was involved with and an agent of Danzo, employed as his 'Dr. Frankenstein'. The deal made to 'harvest' the Uchiha sharingan as weapons... The ultimate Forbidden Uchiha tech--Izanagi. A Tech that closes the eye permanently. Requiring a large supply of disposable Sharingan. The 2 split the booty, entered into a mutual non-aggression pact and rendered a potential threat into non-existence. I believe Orochimaru joined Akatsuki with the orders from Danzo to retrieve Itachi's sharingan. Later, Oro went rogue and desired the Sharingan for himself, pursuing Sasuke.

Izuna, being the equal of Madara and one of the 2 firsts to awaken MS, knows the Secrets of the Sharingan and the history as well as Madara. He took it upon himself to surpass his brother once and for all. To go one step further than Izanagi. To become the 'equal' of the So6P. Insane, but logical.
i kinda like this. cuz it wuz never said that izuna died. and the way he told sasuke, and the way it appeared in the flashback, izuna gave them to him. i mean come on. if your not willingly giving them up then how else would he have got them from him? especially against his BLIND brother. they had the MS so who else could go against them? so that knocks out the theory that madara hired goons to ambush izuna and forcefully take them.
 

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how about it makes sense because riku sealed the juubi and became weakened. it makes sense because of everything that madara has said throughout the manga. it could all be said by riku to so you guys should consider and quit writing it off. of course. i think it will be very twisted either way.
 

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My guess is that 'Tobi' is Izuna Uchiha. The only proof we have of his death is the word of 'Madara'. To fake one's death its obviously necessary to propagate such a rumor. My theory is that Zetsu witnessed the battle at the VoTE and retrieved the eyes, while enjoying a snack, for Izuna. Unforeseen problems arose with the EMS 're-transplant' leaving Izuna at diminished capacity. He poses as Madara for obvioius shock-effect advantage. I agree that Kabuto knows what we all want to know. And that is the truth behind the mask of Tobi. He keeps dropping hints.

Izuna was left with diminished sharingan and was on a quest of vengence and an upgrade. He used Zetsu to be on the lookout for any and all Sharingan of fallen Ninja. He found Obito's eye intact, attached to his crushed body and took it from his dead corpse. Again a snack. Zetsu is impermanent to solids--easy for him. Obito died and is not Evil.

'Izuna-Tobi' made a deal with Danzo. I believe Orochimaru, obsessed with forbidden techniques, was involved with and an agent of Danzo, employed as his 'Dr. Frankenstein'. The deal made to 'harvest' the Uchiha sharingan as weapons... The ultimate Forbidden Uchiha tech--Izanagi. A Tech that closes the eye permanently. Requiring a large supply of disposable Sharingan. The 2 split the booty, entered into a mutual non-aggression pact and rendered a potential threat into non-existence. I believe Orochimaru joined Akatsuki with the orders from Danzo to retrieve Itachi's sharingan. Later, Oro went rogue and desired the Sharingan for himself, pursuing Sasuke.

Izuna, being the equal of Madara and one of the 2 firsts to awaken MS, knows the Secrets of the Sharingan and the history as well as Madara. He took it upon himself to surpass his brother once and for all. To go one step further than Izanagi. To become the 'equal' of the So6P. Insane, but logical.
Sounds interesting but still why would he pose as Madara?? You're just saying he is Izuna for the heck of it. But it's still most likely Madara.

And ur saying after fight with Hashirima Zetsu retrieved Madara's eyes? or after Madara vs Izuna ?


one day we will find out
Haha, been noticing u posting those short "meaningless" replys to every thread. Trying to make it Sannin? ;)
 
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how about it makes sense because riku sealed the juubi and became weakened. it makes sense because of everything that madara has said throughout the manga. it could all be said by riku to so you guys should consider and quit writing it off. of course. i think it will be very twisted either way.
ya i am saying the same thing and your first quote on my thread i am honoured...........
Welcome to NB enjoy your stay.

Sounds interesting but still why would he pose as Madara?? You're just saying he is Izuna for the heck of it. But it's still most likely Madara.

And ur saying after fight with Hashirima Zetsu retrieved Madara's eyes? or after Madara vs Izuna ?




Haha, been noticing u posting those short "meaningless" replys to every thread. Trying to make it Sannin? ;)
Ya i think he is trying to go Sannin........
hmmm if zetsu retrieved madara's eyes it would be like madara takes izuna's eyes and then izuna takes back what was originally his would that not damage the eye sets???????
 

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hmmm if zetsu retrieved madara's eyes it would be like madara takes izuna's eyes and then izuna takes back what was originally his would that not damage the eye sets???????
Yeap! And Izuna couldn't have killed Madara before the Hashirima fight since it's commonly been always known that Madara fought 1st Hokage. So there's a big flaw in MidgeMush's theory. Although it sounds very interesting
 

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I cant wait to see who was in that coffin it will answer so many questions. The possibility of Tobi being Izuna is a good theory seems more likely then the so6p still being alive i just dont think they would bring back the most epic nin ever to have him defeated by naruto or sasuke or maybe both of them it would ruin his street cred the sage has been portrayed as this epic monk who saved the nin world from the bad ass known as the Jyubii i just think him coming back will be unlikely.
 

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I cant wait to see who was in that coffin it will answer so many questions. The possibility of Tobi being Izuna is a good theory seems more likely then the so6p still being alive i just dont think they would bring back the most epic nin ever to have him defeated by naruto or sasuke or maybe both of them it would ruin his street cred the sage has been portrayed as this epic monk who saved the nin world from the bad ass known as the Jyubii i just think him coming back will be unlikely.
u are getting it wrong my boy he wont be back to fight naruto (senju) or sasuke (uchiha) he will just see what happens of the fight between his sons if naruto succeeds in getting sasuke off the path of revenge without harming him then perhaps he will leave the ninja worlds in narutos hands and Kabuto will be the mega villain and if naruto fails in that if sasuke is killed or has to be killed then he shall destroy the ninja world for good for his ultimate goal is Peace in the world
 

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Sounds interesting but still why would he pose as Madara?? You're just saying he is Izuna for the heck of it. But it's still most likely Madara.

And ur saying after fight with Hashirima Zetsu retrieved Madara's eyes? or after Madara vs Izuna ?




Haha, been noticing u posting those short "meaningless" replys to every thread. Trying to make it Sannin? ;)
naw dude i jst dont like to type allot unless i find sumthing that someone said something that has no idea wut their talking about lol..... and how does me typin short words would make me a sannin
 
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