How can people actually say Raikage beat Sasuke?

[Professor Sarutobi]

Look we know that you have dedicated your soul to Sasuke.But you have to admit that if Gaara did not interfere then:

Sasukes head would be rolling on the ground and the Raikage will be left with 1 arm and 1 leg.

Oh and you need to stop saying TWO defenses. Fire is more of a intimidation. The fire doesn't stop the attack. It just burns the person attacking. It's a defensive move because it discourages the enemy from attacking. But it is not an actual defense that will stop an attack.

As an example from earlier. If there are two wrestlers. Wrestler A and Wrestler B. Wrestler A has been attacking more but was much more hurt.If B was on the ground and A jumped up and was going to smash his elbow onto Bs neck. And out of no where a random guy kicks A away and stops him from attacking. And the fight is stopped.
Would B be considered a winner because he wasn't as hurt?

or

lets bring up the Haku fight
If Goku popped out of nowhere and stopped the fight right before naruto went Fox Berserk. Would Haku be considered the winner because she wasn't damaged at all while Naruto was beat up and Sasuke was on the ground,unconscious?


So
No interruption=Raikage won but lost arm and leg
Interruption=Fight not finished=No winner


Look Sasuke was fighting all the Kages. What did expect? Did he think he would go there and all the kages are like: Okay go fight Danzo and if you win we won't care and we won't bother you at all. No. Sasuke was challenging all the Kages. And if Sasuke was attacked by every person in the Kage Summit then that would still be his fight to win or lose. He knew the odds before going there. Odds don't matter in the decision between win/loss.


Lastly. For Sasuke to win he would have to have defeated his enemy(at the moment his enemy was Raikage). Did he defeat Raikage, NO!!! So he did not win. No one was defeated which meant there was no winner.

@bolded, THANK YOU, iv been saying that how many times now lol

 

[NewKageism]

Yea Raikage won. Sasuke... could have should have.... Nope

He would have died the ribs were to the sides.

I am happy he didn't I like Sasuke.

But for this battle R.I.P Sasuke

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

What are you talking about? A broke the Eight Tail's horn

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And like I said a tentacle isn't the same as a horn. Thats a fact that A's Leg Drop could have killed Sasuke and broke the ribs on the way

Proof that Chidori eisou can't cut off his horn?

Suigetsu said it can't be blocked.

I never said you said that Gaara's sand was weak, and yeah Sasuke has 2 defenses right now but A has the strenght to pass throught them and the facts are shown
1.- He punch Sasuke through Amaterasu.

Not Enton.

2.- Broke the Eight Tail's horn with one hand.

Susanoo>Horn.

Another thing, the ribs aren't protecting his front only his sides and back, look the manga again, so if by any chance A would have broke 2 or more ribs. And why are you comparing Naruto with A. we're talking about A and Sasuke here, stay with it ok.

Susanoo aura would still protect him how they protected him from Mei's lava U_U

Besides the Nine Tails only gives naruto a lot of chakra, healing abilities and stamina not strenght, tell me how many Jinchurikis habe bulked up just because of their Bijuus.

It does increase one's strenght and by alot too. Naruto beat Haku with his KN0 punch and when his KN0 left he punched him and she said "you can't beat me like that". The KN0 punch was MUCH stronger than the regular punch, but I thought this was commonsense O.O

Yes Sasuke did beat up a giant bear, but what does that prove? only that he was way too strong for a genin.

What does that prove? That he's strong.

 

[Hyperion]

Sasuke LOST!

Damn

:flaw:

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Proof that Chidori eisou can't cut off his horn?

Suigetsu said it can't be blocked.

its the same as chidori just in longer form, we saw how well chidori worked on raikage's armor.

Not Enton.

Enton doesn't block, its fire not armor.

Susanoo>Horn.

proof? raikage got thru both of them, the 8tails is made up of pure chakra so his horn would be chakra made into real form like susanoo.

Susanoo aura would still protect him how they protected him from Mei's lava U_U

his ribs were wraped around blocking his front when she fired the lava, most of the ribs were broken off when raikage was attacking him, none of them were in front.

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It does increase one's strenght and by alot too. Naruto beat Haku with his KN0 punch and when his KN0 left he punched him and she said "you can't beat me like that". The KN0 punch was MUCH stronger than the regular punch, but I thought this was commonsense O.O

What does that prove? That he's strong.

yeah sasuke is really good at taijutsu, just not a specalist in it like raikage/guy/lee/neji/hinata.

lol yeah ima go with hyp, he lost no point in getting trolled about it anymore =0

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Catched you using double standars again. You said Sasuke didn't use those attacks so it doesn't matter. Than Raikage also didn't do as you suggested he could have againts Sasuke's Amaterasu/Susanoo combo. So there :flaw:




He didn't have any other option to cause damage to Sasuke as he's a brawler only type of fighter while Sasuke is versatile. Ninjutsu>Taijutsu. MS>limbs.



Not everyone stop kidding yourself troll. Jiraiya and Chiyo, both very knowledagble characters didn't know. Even your average jounin like guys like Asuma wouldn't know.

Everyone has proved you WRONG!!!

you keep saying Raikage had no choice but to attack Sasuke, that he can only use taijutsu but you dont understand.. Raikage could have chose not to hit Sasuke.

even samurais knew about amaterasu..

you dont even respond to my whole comments and i throughly explain everything. why dont you just admit you are wrong.

and also MAKE A POLL OF WHO WOULD WIN!

stop ignoring all the facts that everyone has provided. Sasuke would have died end of story...

next time you make a thread make sure you got ya facts straight buddy. and learn to not be soo stubborn, learn to be humble, learn to admit you are wrong. pay attention kid these are life long lessons im giving you!

btw for the record i like Sasuke.. but he didnt beat Raikage.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Man this is a sasuke bash thread i find it hard to believe a leg drop that couldnt even break threw garra sand was honestly gonna kill sasuke now really??? people say sasuke was'nt able to keep up with the raikage if thats true how did he dodge his elbow bolt & in a 2 second moment able to cover his self with enton before the raikage hit

 

[NewKageism]

Man this is a sasuke bash thread i find it hard to believe a leg drop that couldnt even break threw garra sand was honestly gonna kill sasuke now really??? people say sasuke was'nt able to keep up with the raikage if thats true how did he dodge his elbow bolt & in a 2 second moment able to cover his self with enton before the raikage hit

One word Sharingan

 

[Hyperion]

@Excite - Not the point... Sasuke Lost the fight!

 

[Ryuji]

sasuke was just testing his powers in that battle.if he wanted to do an instant kill he whould have done it from very start of the battle

There you said it he was ''testing'' and while testing he got owned, so if he was all high and mitghy why didn't he use Susano at the begining, no one saids that Susano is weak, Susano could have killed the Raikage but Sasuke was begining to use it, so don't take it to the future, and yeah maybe telling that Sasuke could have died is going into the future, but theres a difference, the attack was seconds away from landing, so it isn't exagerating

Proof that Chidori eisou can't cut off his horn?

Suigetsu said it can't be blocked.


Not Enton.


Susanoo>Horn.



Susanoo aura would still protect him how they protected him from Mei's lava U_U


It does increase one's strenght and by alot too. Naruto beat Haku with his KN0 punch and when his KN0 left he punched him and she said "you can't beat me like that". The KN0 punch was MUCH stronger than the regular punch, but I thought this was commonsense O.O



What does that prove? That he's strong.

I never said that Chidori Eiso couldn't cut the horn, maybe it could, but using an entire jutsu to cut a horn, and A just a chop it's a big difference, you just compared a tentacle with a horn thats what I was correcting you, and Sasuke didn't use Chidori Eiso in the fight so don't make false moves and even if he did, if a Chidori just poke the Raikage Eiso could just make a small wound.

Maybe it can't be block but it can be avoid.

Enton is Amaterasu :| its's just a bended version of it, don't be dumb.

Why are you comparing Susano with a horn? you're making no sense at all :|

Yeah the aura protected him from Mei's attack not A's, and again the ribs were protecting him from all his sides but not his front wich is the location A was going.

I said that Sasuke was strong why are you bringing it up?

Yeah the punch was awesome but it doens't mean the Nine Tail's gave him that power, Naruto was in a stage of rage.
Have you ever been in rage and punch something or someone? does it feel different? did it hurt you?
Thats was the reason the punch was so KO material.

Now me and Profesor Sarutobi (thansk buddy o.o ) clearly made a lot of holes in your theory, do you still want to continue?

And please don't come up with off-topic facts unless it's from Sasuke's and A's fight.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

I hope ya Sasuke fanboys got a chance to see your idol get the beat down in motion! FYI the recent anime is up! You get to see the Liger Bomb and Raikage Bitchslap in motioin and color baby yeah!!!!xd

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[Ryuji]

I hope ya Sasuke fanboys got a chance to see your idol get the beat down in motion! FYI the recent anime is up! You get to see the Liger Bomb and Raikage Bitchslap in motioin and color baby yeah!!!!xd

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Sweet, but I tought it was called Raiga Bomb, but meh whatever it still awesome xd

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Sweet, but I tought it was called Raiga Bomb, but meh whatever it still awesome xd

Liger Bomb, Raiga Bomb, Batista Bomb, Atomic Bomb... eh idk its like Samehada vs Shark Skin... same difference.


but yea Raikage = epic lol xd

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

@Excite - Not the point... Sasuke Lost the fight!

What even helps u sleep atnight killa


Man the people in this thread are so hyprocital, You guess complain about sasuke sheilding up using susanoo but no one about the raikage lightning armor he uses to protect him-self.I'm still looking for someone answer to how can a leg drop that could'nt even get threw garra's sand able to kill sasuke.

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[vinsence]

New to the forums here I usually go to VIZ. But after going through all the post here I think I like it more here.

I would just like to say the image from page 8 from Professor Sarutobi ends all arguments. Nothing was there to stop the blow it’s was more of a if you take me out your leg is coming with me. Also known as a bluff but we seen just one page before were that same bluff got Sasuke before. But this time he does not have any armor to protect him. He was died. No way around it he was dead. That hole we say in Jugo... yea same thing but in Sasuke who can't heal from that = death.

 

[NewKageism]

i see u have good understanding


tell them that again in caps

Sasuke is over.... The Raikage wins. This is murder to Sasuke fans...


All the evidence was there. Really why would Sasuke take everyone on. Don't get me wrong with the could have should haves and such this is not a what if thread, but more the actually fight.

Also Rank33. This is like the law of science or how you want to put it friction.

Gaara sang was like brakes to the truck of Raikage or a parchute to a falling person. Slowing his attack down to make him realised someone interfered. He looks suprise and him being quick he notices someone else elment. So therefore his attack wasn't as deadly. He threaten Gaara saying why did you interfer answer me or you die next. Gaara sand isn't a brittle thing too plus Sasuke trying to put his sanno ribs back up. So the sand just cushinon the blow to slower impatc while the sanno cages to the side cashion it more.

But like everyone is saying if that was a direct blow he would have been a goner. Point blank. He wouldn't have been suprised or had someone slow down his attack.

 

[Hyperion]

What even helps u sleep atnight killa


Man the people in this thread are so hyprocital, You guess complain about sasuke sheilding up using susanoo but no one about the raikage lightning armor he uses to protect him-self.I'm still looking for someone answer to how can a leg drop that could'nt even get threw garra's sand able to kill sasuke.

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Do you not get it?
Sasuke lost! Did the Raikage kill him? No, but Sasuke lost the FIGHT!

If you don't like it, learn how to speak Japanese, fly to Japan, find Kishi and tell him you don't like it!

:flaw:

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

Man this is a sasuke bash thread i find it hard to believe a leg drop that couldnt even break threw garra sand was honestly gonna kill sasuke now really??? people say sasuke was'nt able to keep up with the raikage if thats true how did he dodge his elbow bolt & in a 2 second moment able to cover his self with enton before the raikage hit

Good points bro. Apparently these guys don't see it. They act as if Sasuke would die from a single blow even with 2 defenses.

There you said it he was ''testing'' and while testing he got owned, so if he was all high and mitghy why didn't he use Susano at the begining, no one saids that Susano is weak, Susano could have killed the Raikage but Sasuke was begining to use it, so don't take it to the future, and yeah maybe telling that Sasuke could have died is going into the future, but theres a difference, the attack was seconds away from landing, so it isn't exagerating

Susanoo is activated INSTANTLY, reason how Itachi was able to block Kirin which is 186000 miles per sec, if Sasuke saw A's kick being able to get through Enton and Susanoo aura, and kill him, but it wouldn't you're just being delusional.

I never said that Chidori Eiso couldn't cut the horn, maybe it could, but using an entire jutsu to cut a horn, and A just a chop it's a big difference, you just compared a tentacle with a horn thats what I was correcting you, and Sasuke didn't use Chidori Eiso in the fight so don't make false moves and even if he did, if a Chidori just poke the Raikage Eiso could just make a small wound.

WTF is wrong with you? Taijutsu and Ninjutsu are both ninja arts. A excels in taijutsu while Sasuke in ninjutsu, different fighting styles. If they get the job done with either of the arts, it doesn't matter which they use. Infact, A's Raiton shroud is a Ninjutsu and is what boosts his strenght, speed, reflexes to such a level.

Enton is Amaterasu :| its's just a bended version of it, don't be dumb.

Thats nice. Calling me dumb, when YOU'RE the one thats wrong. Databook states they are different jutsus, its even apparent since they have different names, but keep dreaming in your fantasy world where A's kick which was stopped by Gaara's sand (small portion) would have KILLED Sasuke through TWO defenses.

Yeah the aura protected him from Mei's attack not A's, and again the ribs were protecting him from all his sides but not his front wich is the location A was going.

Ribs can't protect againts Lava because Lava isn't solid, its liquid. The aura from Susanoo is what protected him from the lava, as it would still protect him from A's kick, even if less than the ribs, but the Enton makes up for the ribs.

Yeah the punch was awesome but it doens't mean the Nine Tail's gave him that power, Naruto was in a stage of rage.
Have you ever been in rage and punch something or someone? does it feel different? did it hurt you?
Thats was the reason the punch was so KO material.

It's dam obvious Nine tails, the strongest bijuu boost a normal person's strenght alot, wtf are you on about?

AND EXCITE AND ME ARE STILL WAITING FOR for someone answer to how can a leg drop that could'nt even get threw garra's sand able to kill sasuke through Susanoo aura and Enton, 2 MS jutsus and not just wound but even KILL Sasuke. Doesn't make sense does it?

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

AND EXCITE AND ME ARE STILL WAITING FOR for someone answer to how can a leg drop that could'nt even get threw garra's sand able to kill sasuke through Susanoo aura and Enton, 2 MS jutsus and not just wound but even KILL Sasuke. Doesn't make sense does it?

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do you see anything covering his body that isn't fire, FIRE NO PROTECTY FACE

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

Is not a fact like you say, troll. A's kick is severly over-rated.

and NarutovsGoku STFU already with the poll. Raikage would win the poll, does that mean that people are right just because there are more Sasuke haters than not? That poll will only determine fandoms, nothing objective.

I don't know why people assume that clash would have being decisive when previous ones weren't. I honestly don't think either would have died, but whatever.