1st hokage vs 4th hokage

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plz explain how 1st could win, i just cant imagine it as i said
speed is not everything u noob
god!

ppl

tend to be fans of the lamest characters just cuz he has speed the 4th wasnt all about speed

and he still needed time to develope his jutsus which were not finished
(rassengan)
ftg was a formidable jutsu but
in the end speed is not key to defeating
the 1st

if it was madara would be ruling the world right now.
 

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speed is not everything u noob
god!

ppl

tend to be fans of the lamest characters just cuz he has speed the 4th wasnt all about speed

and he still needed time to develope his jutsus which were not finished
(rassengan)
ftg was a formidable jutsu but
in the end speed is not key to defeating
the 1st

if it was madara would be ruling the world right now.
speed combined with wit is in my opinion far more deadly than raw power

and for the record minato isnt my favourite character, i DONT HAVE A SINGLE FAVOURITE CHARACTER, i have at least 10 favourite characters
 

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how do we know that for sure

if he beat madara

prime at that


he must be fast in some way


its just fact if we know the first beat ems

speed isnt everything
therefore the 1st doesnt need speed to beat 4th becuz 4th isnt faster than madara ems prime
 

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they both would put up a great fight with all their amazing jutsu but in the end i think minato not because of his speed but because of how he fights he knows how to plan out stuff while in a hard situation like take the fight with madara for example he was going to kushina fighting the nine tails and madara all in one time
 

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they both would put up a great fight with all their amazing jutsu but in the end i think minato not because of his speed but because of how he fights he knows how to plan out stuff while in a hard situation like take the fight with madara for example he was going to kushina fighting the nine tails and madara all in one time
so the 1st is just a tard who cant fight and has no stratigies that founded the village and beat madara countless times in his prime????
 

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they both would put up a great fight with all their amazing jutsu but in the end i think minato not because of his speed but because of how he fights he knows how to plan out stuff while in a hard situation like take the fight with madara for example he was going to kushina fighting the nine tails and madara all in one time
I agree, but the 1st is also smart and is a great strategist. He was at war all his life and had to fight and survive against the uchias who were the best clan next to them. He had to have been a genius to have defeated madara, and fyi he is smart as hell and had ems to add to his smarts at the time. I dont think he just relied on his wood to fight I'm sure its more to that man and can't wait till they giv his story..
 

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yes speed isnt the only thing thats obvious but its one of the main attributes in naruto, speed doesent decide battles, but on the other hand if you are extremely fast that can well dictate the outcome even if you only have 1 kunai


and i like minato and itachi but not because of speed, and i hate sasuke hes just a troubled kid
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Wtf!?!?! The 1st is def not overrated. I don't see nor hear his name everytime i go to the damn forums page. Minato is a different case. It's people like you guys that make it so i hate these characters. I liked minato until he became nearly as overrated as naruto himself. Like Draegod said, you people are riding his and narutos balls so hard it's pitiful. We don't even know what the 4th can do, hell, we dont even know what the 1st can do but if we go on what we know about these two characters then anyone with common sense could easily see that the 1st would win this fight. You need more than speed to win, people think because minato has rasengan and ftg that he's beast and can beat everyone, that is plain ignorance. A fight is not won by just speed people. Like i said, its because people on here worship minato and naruto that it makes me hate these characters guts. The sad part is that people won't even admit they're fanboys when they obviously are. My point is, look at the facts that we KNOW about these characters and the first def wins, sorry minato lovers but he doesn't cut it. Now, im going to be flamed but whatever.
the 1st is overrated, his ability allowed him to tame the beasts so everyone think he is stronger than the kyubi
 
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Lmaoooooooo, hahaha this has to be a joke! U are a noob because u sir just made that bull shit up! No where in the manga did any ninja say the 4th was the best, they one time compared him and raikage speed, and the rasengan thing. Besides that he is narutos dad so ofcourse he is going to still be lerking. No where did kishi say minato was the best, and if u say so show me the video proof or manga that haf the interview. If not, then I would like if u stop feeding lies to these other minato fangurls (not all of em are fangurls).

Its sad that ppl have to lie to make him look good. Smh.. If yall would stop being bias u would see that speed isnt everything. U guys act like the 1sst is dumb and dont no how to fight and will just sit there and let the 4th tele by him. Smh.. Ppl like you are not true naruto fans, yall have ur favs and dont care bout other characters besides the main ones. When u dont no anything about other charters then ur favs u then become a noob! So dont become noob pls!
please learn how to spell properly, your smh or whatever that shit is and all the yall's and crap is just embarrasing to read.
 

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Opinions are useless. Kishi's word is the law. They are both equal.

But if given a chance, I would say it depends.

If Hashirama has the Kyuubi at his side, he would probably win. Without it, I'll gamble my money to the fourth.
 

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like i said befor madara did not battle the 1st to win he battle him to collect some of his blood line power for his master plan ,he said it him self in the manga,if he had truly lost to the first it whould not make much sence for him to be top now,oh and the fourth had no match for madara
 

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please learn how to spell properly, your smh or whatever that shit is and all the yall's and crap is just embarrasing to read.
lmao sad. u have to result to talking bout my grammar not knowing that i can give two f'ucks if i write good on a NARUTO SITE, not a college essay, or something serious. looks like i beat you at arguing so im just going to stop. and fyi i was on my phone writing so dont you feel stupid.

smh= shaking my head.. you must not text or have alot of friends or something.lmao
 
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