How did Kakashi obtained his MS ?!

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Well on that page it also says that they took their siblings eyes to make there power eternal... 'xept until Sasuke, Madara was the only one known with EMS. I think he was just saying that to strike fear in Sasuke's mind, also in a way what he said was true, exept that he was only talking about Madara, izuna, and himself.
i agree on da ems but to say only 4 uchiha got ms is kinda hard to believe...kakashi got it and he is not an uchiha....i mean who wrote da tabs on how to get it?

Sharingan can't copy any Kekkei Genkai, why don't u just realize this because your theory contradicts with the manga story of MS. Who should i trust: You or Kishi?
dis is how i see it i'm black(sharingan), but if i look at a black guy(kekkei genkai/sharingan) i can "copy" his looks and his movements..but if i look at a white guy(kekkei genkai) i can copy him but i'm not white so i don't have all dat i need to do and look like he does, but being dat da sharingan is da sharingan its already da kekkei genkai dat i need....but as for da kishi or me, how do u know i'm not kishi???...lol j/k but u should go with kishi, look at my post from a while back
but its all just what i think not asking anyone to ride with me on dis but it is not known how he got it and dis makes da most sense to me him beng da copy ninja in all
i know it contradicts da manga, but da manga contradicts its self on da reg... do u know how he got ms give me ur theory on it
Well how else am I suppose to explain to you. I mean were about 500+ chapter in Naruto yet you feel their was other Uchiha's with the MS and they yet to be shown and I think it would be pretty random to throw some Uchiha's in at this moment with MS. When Itachi said for 'generation' Uchiha's have killed besfriends to obatin MS (Madara, Izuna and Itachi) and than took their brothers eye to awaken EMS (Madara taking Izuna). 1)In that statement now are you gonna say other Uchiha's had EMS also? When it is clearly Madara who had EMS and now Sasuke.

2)Here you still go on with Sharingan able to copy MS techs. I have explained myself in and out that a Sharingan cannot copy techs. that require preparation. MS techs. require MS to be active, 3)Bakyugan requires to be active to use its techs and the same goes for Rinnegan. 4)Proof has been shown when Kakashi said that Sharingan cannot copy KG bloodline but still you argue on the fact that it could. The only person who has taken advantage in coping jutsu is Kakashi and they are just your regular jutsu for example he can copy the normal resengan and Gai/Lee combo but couldn't copy resen-shurikan due to mixing two different element and how advance that tech. was but 5)yet people believe advance techs like amaratsau and sasunoo which require MS to be active can be copied by a regular Sharingan
1) look at top post
2)no i never said he copied da tech i said he copied da movement of da eye it self
3)never said anything about dem
4)yes it has but , madara was said to have lost to da first but turns out he was in da fight for something else..so look at my repost to inception
5)kakashi never seen amaratsau to copy it in da 1st place so y would i say dat??? but maybe ur talking about someone else,("yet people") idk

Exactly, which shows why he never used it because it wouldn't be as powerful the way Jiraiya, 4th and Naruto use it and yet these people think Amaratsau can be copied by his Sharingan
again i never said dat
 

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Yes, we've been having an argument with some other people who believe Sharingan can copy anything and you jumped in with some what the same meaning so we said the same thing to you.

So let me guess are you saying Kakashi copied Itachi eye movement? If you are than that's not possible. I'm sorry to say this but just because Kakashi can copy jutsu and read movements doesn't mean he's can copy an eye to make his own MS, why do you think Uchiha's really didn't copy jutsu's? because it's weakened jutsu's when they use it compared to the original user and I'm not saying they never did copy or used the jutsu's of course they did but they didn't use it as often the same goes with Kakashi he states he copied a 1000 jutsu's but we seen only like 10 or less throughout the manga. Kakashi does not have Uchiha blood yet you believe he can copy the MS eye movement and awaken his own? It's not possible even than he fought Itachi long ago with MS and it took him this long to copy the eye movement? It's such an advance thing but it's not possible. I'm pretty sure this is what you were trying to state forgive me if it wasn't and tell me what your really trying to say.

I'll tell you what my theory is. When Kakashi got the Sharingan he witnessed Obito died right their, so maybe he could've had it in him all along but didn't know how to activate it and he's a Non-Uchiha so it makes sense that he wouldn't awaken it right away. The other possibility is when Kakashi was training in that 3 year gap thru Team 7 he seen his team, he saw his father die in front of him, Obito died in front of him, Rin is supposedly dead (Unknown), and his Sensei, 4th Hokage Minato also died so he could've had some flash back on the deaths while trying and it may have awakened. Also it's stated to awaken MS either you kill someone close to you or witness some die close to you.

Thats what I personally think and I'm sure Kishi will have a 2 episode about it like he did for the Sharingan so we all can find out
 

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i agree on da ems but to say only 4 uchiha got ms is kinda hard to believe...kakashi got it and he is not an uchiha....i mean who wrote da tabs on how to get it?


dis is how i see it i'm black(sharingan), but if i look at a black guy(kekkei genkai/sharingan) i can "copy" his looks and his movements..but if i look at a white guy(kekkei genkai) i can copy him but i'm not white so i don't have all dat i need to do and look like he does, but being dat da sharingan is da sharingan its already da kekkei genkai dat i need....but as for da kishi or me, how do u know i'm not kishi???...lol j/k but u should go with kishi, look at my post from a while back
i know it contradicts da manga, but da manga contradicts its self on da reg... do u know how he got ms give me ur theory on it

1) look at top post
2)no i never said he copied da tech i said he copied da movement of da eye it self
3)never said anything about dem
4)yes it has but , madara was said to have lost to da first but turns out he was in da fight for something else..so look at my repost to inception
5)kakashi never seen amaratsau to copy it in da 1st place so y would i say dat??? but maybe ur talking about someone else,("yet people") idk


again i never said dat
So if MS can be copied then Byakugan, Rinnegan and all their techs can be copied too, right?

WRONG!
 

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1)So let me guess are you saying Kakashi copied Itachi eye movement? If you are than that's not possible. I'm sorry to say this but just because Kakashi can copy jutsu and read movements doesn't mean he's can copy an eye to make his own MS, why do you think Uchiha's really didn't copy jutsu's? because it's weakened jutsu's when they use it compared to the original user and I'm not saying they never did copy or used the jutsu's of course they did but they didn't use it as often the same goes with Kakashi he states he copied a 1000 jutsu's but we seen only like 10 or less throughout the manga. 1-a)Kakashi does not have Uchiha blood yet you believe he can copy the MS eye movement and awaken his own? It's not possible even than he fought Itachi long ago with MS and it took him this long to copy the eye movement? It's such an advance thing but it's not possible. I'm pretty sure this is what you were trying to state forgive me if it wasn't and tell me what your really trying to say.

2)I'll tell you what my theory is. When Kakashi got the Sharingan he witnessed Obito died right their, so maybe he could've had it in him all along but didn't know how to activate it and he's a Non-Uchiha so it makes sense that he wouldn't awaken it right away. 2-a)The other possibility is when Kakashi was training in that 3 year gap thru Team 7 he seen his team, he saw his father die in front of him, Obito died in front of him, Rin is supposedly dead (Unknown), and his Sensei, 4th Hokage Minato also died so he could've had some flash back on the deaths while trying and it may have awakened. Also it's stated to awaken MS either you kill someone close to you or witness some die close to you.

Thats what I personally think and I'm sure Kishi will have a 2 episode about it like he did for the Sharingan so we all can find out
1)ok no point in going back and forth
1-a)yes he got to 3 tomoes, he is known as da copy ninja, and he "somehow" got da ms...so him not being of uchiha blood don't matter
2)if dats da case den what about da uchihas dat never get da shar. in da first place dat r of da blood
2-a)well da same could be said for sasuke with his fam day died and he had cont. flashbacks of dem (i would say dat he was close to his mom and dad)

So if MS can be copied then Byakugan, Rinnegan and all their techs can be copied too, right?

WRONG!
u must not have read what u post to so let me hightlight it for u

"dis is how i see it i'm black(sharingan), but if i look at a black guy(kekkei genkai/sharingan) i can "copy" his looks and his movements..but if i look at a white guy(kekkei genkai) i can copy him but i'm not white so i don't have all dat i need to do and look like he does"
meaning dat he has da shar. not byak. or rinn. so he can't make use of it from within his body...also da byak. & rinn. don't move to active

"3)Bakyugan requires to be active to use its techs and the same goes for Rinnegan."(ms itachi) "3)never said anything about dem"(me)

i mean if i'm wrong i'm wrong but u, ms itachi, inception, me, or any one else DON"T KNOW how he got ms but he did...again dis is my mind working to make sense of da unknown...
 

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No one really knows... maybe because it was transplanted not all the sharingan rules apply to it.. (it never, ever turns off... why?) and maybe cause of his bonds with obito
 

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2-a)well da same could be said for sasuke with his fam day died and he had cont. flashbacks of dem (i would say dat he was close to his mom and dad)
Fairly good point here but easily countered: Sasuke did not had the 3 tamoe sharingan when those death happened.
When those death happened he never cried anymore cause he is just a hatefull thing.
 

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Fairly good point here but easily countered: Sasuke did not had the 3 tamoe sharingan when those death happened.
When those death happened he never cried anymore cause he is just a hatefull thing.
but kakashi did not have da 3 tomoes either, and also those deaths kelp playing in sasuke's head thanx to itachi
 

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but kakashi did not have da 3 tomoes either, and also those deaths kelp playing in sasuke's head thanx to itachi
Yes but Kakashi is not EMO furious and hateful. I can easily picture him crying over lost ones in flashbacks.
Sasuke is EMO furious and only seeked revenge, did not waste one minute crying and having this feeling of loss. See my point now?
 

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Fairly good point here but easily countered: Sasuke did not had the 3 tamoe sharingan when those death happened.
When those death happened he never cried anymore cause he is just a hatefull thing.
Really well said. I also have to add to this as we've seen Sasuke has only had flashbacks of Itachi and he was closer to Itachi than he was with his mom and dad I would have to say. I mean it's weird hearing it because what 5 year old kid wouldn't be close to their parents but in Sasuke's case Itachi was like his mom/dad (As an example if you remember Itachi/Sasuke's dad speaking to Itachi about a mission and Itachi said well if you aren't going to Sasuke first day of academy than I guess I have to so won't be able to do the mission and thats when their father agreed to go to Sasuke first day at academy). I know their was more said about that but just a quick ran down, so it would make sense that his closet was Itachi, after his death and finding out the truth came Sasuke's MS came.
 

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Itachi told Sasuke that he had to kill his best friend. Maybe you have to see you're best friend die, and to make sure he saw it Itachi killed his best friend. At last moment Kakashi became best friends with Obito, thus when getting the Sharingan he also got the MS but had to awake it later to know of its existence.
 

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Kakashi got his ms by eathier witnessing everyone close to him die (obito,rin) or Obito gaves his ms to Kakashi


LOLOL are people really that foolish. You do realise that while Obito died, rin transfered Obito's eye to kakashi. If he were to obtain MS when that happened he'd be a true boss right now. And if Rin had been the cause of him getting his MS we would have known about it, such as kakashi would have had it a long time ago. Sorry but honestly i think your an idiot. And Obito only had the basic form of sharigan, if i REMEMBER correctly Obito had acquired his sharingan a few chapters/episodes before he had DIED (like 20 years ago). So that completely rules out Obito giving his non existant MS to kakashi. they were younger than the current 16 yr old naruto when Obito had died. There are 3 things why your comment is so pointless. 1. your an idiot. 2. you don't have memory. 3. You have not read or watched all the anime/manga.
 

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well kakashi's sharinghan was given to him by obito who was his best briend and as he was already dying this could mean that kakashi can awaken MS as his best briend had died
 

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He didn't obtain it until recently...

I doubt that he would unlock it when Obito died, they didn't even like each other very much until the very end
 

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Kakashi must have gotten his MS as a result of failing to keep Sasuke from going to Orochimaru. This failure must have felt as if Sasuke died, since he was now with Orochimaru, this emotion brought out the MS.

This would mean that Kakashi obtained the MS while returning Naruto to the village after Naruto lost to Sasuke.

As Kakashi uses his MS, the eye that holds the MS will slip into darkness and go blind.
 

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To activate the MS you have to experience your closest person dieing or you have to kill him.I think Kakashi went through his brain and thought about all the things he lost and then BOOM suddenly he gets the MS.
 
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