who is stronger killer bee or his brother?

[Ecchidaime]

Raikage>Bee>Sasuke(who should have died several times already =/

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

No , it doesn't.

As you are probably ateen or younger I'll explain it patiently to you.

Bee has a huge amount of power, the reason for him, being training at such an isloated place as a cave is because of what've seen through the story is that on, he has control, full control of his tails and, has a good realtionship with the beast; meaning it's not only control but creative opportunity for using that power.
If he were to use it in the outside he's end up destroying the whole village.

Now, the reason for which he used his beast's tentacle as bait, an chance of escaping is because he was about to be pawned by a raging-dying Sasuke.

I don't find plaUSibility in the argument " escaping from the village" cause there's not a single proof to support it, DORK, and on the contrary, we have all the statements inthe manga which support, both Bee, and Raikage, have a good relationship.
Do you remember how they slaughtered simultaneously that Kisame clone?

That is called teamwork.

Do you remember the RAIKAGE CRYING WHREN he found out about Bee's kidnap ?

What do yo state as a reason for bee "ESCAPING" from his villagge, but escaping from actual danger??

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woah woah woah hold da fuq up!!!!

wtf r u talking about?!?!

stfu!!

you should read everything i said!! and than read everything everyone else said!!!! and than read the manga!!!

i never said Bee would destory the village and him leaving the village doesnt even mean he'd destroy it retard. Bee would never destroy his village! wtf u stupid?!

yes Bee and Raikage have a great relationship wtf though you felt the need to mention dat!?!?? did i ever say they didnt?!?!

GO READ THE EFFIN MANGA!!! BEE SAID HE ESCAPED FROM THE VILLAGE AND USED SASUKE'S ATTACK TO DO SO!!!

Y?!? well he's a jinchuriki and i assume he's grounded in the village just how the Leaf wanted to ground Naruto in his village. and Bee being a free spirit just wanted out to do him for awhile.. get a lil vacation i guess..

idk what you what point you was trying to make but it wasnt well planned and thought out

 

[sageofwind]

with out the 8 tails raikage with 8 tails killer bee simple as that

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Now then, where to start......

You told me to read your comments more carefully before, i am now going to ask you to do the same with mine. YOU said if bee training naruto makes him strong, iruka, ebisu should also be strong, the training remark was in response to that, when did i ever say the raikage could train him??? You just made that up.

Ok, so somebody hides and retreats, before which he was completely on top of his adversary, while another somebody has his arm cut off and almost his leg as well while failing to kill his opponent( no sasuke would not have died had the blow connected, accept this).

If the ribs were cracked how did he fight danzou with the same susanoo AFTER fighting the raikage?

As for the fight of A with sasuke, you must understand emotions( specifically vengeance) plays a huge part in the intensity.....this is why the raikage was so aggressive, as he wanted to avenge his brother, whom he believed dead, just like sasuke wanted vengeance against danzou. Even with that maniacal intensity, sasuke came away unscratched, and still had enough steam to take out danzou immediately after, so its obvious he was holding back against the raikage.

You make it sound as if sasuke deliberately let bee escape......why would he do that? He tried his best to capture him, and bee's escaping was purely on account of his own skill, to be able to fool a ms of your identity is no mean feat.

Some of your arguments are sound and acceptable.....others not quite so much.

only reason i brought up Ebisu and Iruka is because you made the arguement that Bee's strength over Raikage is proven in the fact that he is training Naruto. I point in that that statement is false because Ebisu and Iruka had both trained Naruto but obviously not stronger than Raikage. but you are correct in saying that genin training is different from Bijuu control trainging. but in all the whole arguement is unfair because Bee is the only one suited to train Naruto in Bijuu control because he is the best Jinchuriki which Raikage is not a jinchuriki at all.. i hope you understand where im coming from with that whole thing. im just saying that Bee training Naruto doesnt prove him being stronger than Raikage.

Bee had the advantage the whole fight, putting Sasuke at near death not once but twice!! but fact is his @ss was grass once he was hit by amterasu! that was the desicion of the whole fight! and had the oppurtunity given to him to escape in the tentacle was not there he would have been captured!! Raikage did fail but that was mostly part of Gaaras fault for interupting his fight! honestly we dont know who would have been the victor of the leg drop vs sasuno+amterasu but i think both parties were in danger of critical damage. i think we can agree on that at least. would sasuke have died? i hope so lol err i mean i think so

the ribs were cracked!! no i take that back 2 of them were actually broken !! dont take my word please go check for yourself. ill post the link:

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here on the left hand corner panel you clearly see that a sasuno rib is in fact cracked due to the impact of the Raiga Bomb that should have killed Sasuke

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as you continue to the next page the very top panel you see clearly that the cracked rib in fact is clearly broken in half! note that this broken rib is on the left side 4 ribs counting down and is the only damaged part of sasuno so far

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in the next chapter on the very last panel you see that Sasuno is suffering to an additional injury of TWO MORE broken and craked ribs on Sasuke's right side the 2nd and 3rd rib counting down. may have been a result of Raikage's Sacrificial Punch ot the Face!!

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few pages later we see the damage from a different angle and it is confirmed that the 2nd and 3rd ribs on the right side are broken and cracked!! in all Sasuno suffered 3 broken ribs.. my point is that Raikage really did some damage on Sasuke. if without Sasuno Sasuke could have died from the powerbomb or even the punch. Raikage has demonstrated on Jugo that he can literally punch hole through ppl. Bee almost killed a sasuno-less Sasuke and Raikage faced Sasuke and still made alot of damage.

btw idk Sasuno was in full form when Sasuke faced Danzo cuz you have to remember that Karin helped heal Sasuke before his fight with Danzo and not only was Sasuno without damage but it was more complete than previously when facing the other 4 Kages.

and that brings me into my next arguement! yes Raikage was extremely emotional-agreed but that just explains the fact he wore down Sasuke realy good. Sasuke seemed un-scratched when fighting Danzo because like i said Karin had healed him up alot before hand. if you remember Sasuke was very very worn out after fighting Raikage and it was shown when he tried to fight Mizukage and Tsuchikage. It was even stated by one of the Kages, Madara and/or even Sasuke himself that his fight with Raikage had really worn him out. and no Sasuke wasn't holding back! he was out to kill looking for vengence. he held back for no one when he was at the summit. he massacred alot of samurais and compared to the Sasuke when he was training with Oro he fought a army of people and didnt kill not one of them. when he formed Hebi he ordered Suigetsu to not to kill anyone! but at the summit he held back nothing and Jugo and Karin had noted that changed in Sasuke.

and finally no Sasuke did not let Bee escaped in fact with his MS eyes Sasuke was completely fooled and thats alot of browny points to Bee but give credit that Sasuke forced that hand onto Bee with the amterasu. Sasuke failed at capture and he did his very best to do so but Bee was forced to escape because he could not defend agaisnt the amterasu. and in his luck Bee used "being captured" as a way to escape the village for awhile. 2 birds with 1 stone for Bee. escape an attack and vacation from the village

thanks for the almost compliment btw alot of your arguements were sound and not so sound too

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

For those who are saying Sasuke > Bee... Killerbee mortally wounded Sasuke twice in the fight and he would probably be dead if it weren't for Suigetsu, Jugo and Karin. This was prior to him using all 8-tails too. He didn't want to fight... Sasuke didn't have Susano'o but Bee wasn't fighting at full strength either.

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- Almost killed once

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- Hawk saves him

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- Bee's true intentions

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- Almost killed 2nd time - After Tsukiyomi.

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- Saved

He did all this before the use of his complete 8-tails form and had it been a 1vs1 fight, everyone knows who the victor would've been easily. All he wanted was a vacation from being the Cloud gaurdian xd. lol he didn't escape just because Sasuke cut off a tentacle.

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- Raikage confident in his attack

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- saved yet again, yes Raikage would've lost a leg but Sasuke was in trouble too

Mizukage burns through his Susano'o and he escapes with the help of Zetsu (who heals him by absorbing the chakra out of everyone at Kage Summit)

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- Tsuchikage kills Sasuke

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- Saved!

I wouldn't say he came out unscratched. I should also mention he was healed completely and his chakras restored by Karin before he fought Danzo. If it wasn't for Karin and Tobi, he would've probably died with Danzo.

He was on par with A but he definitely couldn't take on more than 1 Kage at a time.

you made arguements for both sides soo theres nothing really i can say lol.. but um i agree with everything you said except Bee was also trying to escape the attack on Sasuke as well as an addition from taking a vacation from the village. and you said it well as "All he wanted was a vacation from being the Cloud gaurdian xd."

The main reason that Killer Bee is stronger now is becasue he has Samehada. If Raikage decides he wants to use his Raiton shroud, it's over for him. Samehada will simply eat his entire chakra supply and leave him either unable to use ninjutsu or unable to use his Raiton shroud. Also, if Raikage manages to injure Bee, Samehada will simply heal him like it did to Kisame when Bee was fighting him. Although it may have been a closer fight had Bee not aquirred Samehada, now that he has it, there are new characters that are capable defeating him.

that is the best arguement so far and honestly theres nothing Raikage can do agaisnt Bee using Samehada to his advantage. Samehada loves lots of chakra and Raikage has loads of it in RaitonCloud form and it all would just be eaten be the damned sword if Bee used it. the thought of Samehada had came to me earlier and i was really hoping nobody would use this in the arguement of A vs B arguement.

But theres a possibitly that Raikage could still win with his Taijutsu!! like Guy against Kisame! he has proven his raw strength from all those times break desks, punching through walls and ppl and snapping necks.

lol thats a weak arguement but without Samehada, Bee is not winning. with Samehada Raikage has a poor chance of winning.

 

[kanesannin]

only reason i brought up Ebisu and Iruka is because you made the arguement that Bee's strength over Raikage is proven in the fact that he is training Naruto. I point in that that statement is false because Ebisu and Iruka had both trained Naruto but obviously not stronger than Raikage. but you are correct in saying that genin training is different from Bijuu control trainging. but in all the whole arguement is unfair because Bee is the only one suited to train Naruto in Bijuu control because he is the best Jinchuriki which Raikage is not a jinchuriki at all.. i hope you understand where im coming from with that whole thing. im just saying that Bee training Naruto doesnt prove him being stronger than Raikage.

Bee had the advantage the whole fight, putting Sasuke at near death not once but twice!! but fact is his @ss was grass once he was hit by amterasu! that was the desicion of the whole fight! and had the oppurtunity given to him to escape in the tentacle was not there he would have been captured!! Raikage did fail but that was mostly part of Gaaras fault for interupting his fight! honestly we dont know who would have been the victor of the leg drop vs sasuno+amterasu but i think both parties were in danger of critical damage. i think we can agree on that at least. would sasuke have died? i hope so lol err i mean i think so

the ribs were cracked!! no i take that back 2 of them were actually broken !! dont take my word please go check for yourself. ill post the link:

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here on the left hand corner panel you clearly see that a sasuno rib is in fact cracked due to the impact of the Raiga Bomb that should have killed Sasuke

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as you continue to the next page the very top panel you see clearly that the cracked rib in fact is clearly broken in half! note that this broken rib is on the left side 4 ribs counting down and is the only damaged part of sasuno so far

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in the next chapter on the very last panel you see that Sasuno is suffering to an additional injury of TWO MORE broken and craked ribs on Sasuke's right side the 2nd and 3rd rib counting down. may have been a result of Raikage's Sacrificial Punch ot the Face!!

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few pages later we see the damage from a different angle and it is confirmed that the 2nd and 3rd ribs on the right side are broken and cracked!! in all Sasuno suffered 3 broken ribs.. my point is that Raikage really did some damage on Sasuke. if without Sasuno Sasuke could have died from the powerbomb or even the punch. Raikage has demonstrated on Jugo that he can literally punch hole through ppl. Bee almost killed a sasuno-less Sasuke and Raikage faced Sasuke and still made alot of damage.

btw idk Sasuno was in full form when Sasuke faced Danzo cuz you have to remember that Karin helped heal Sasuke before his fight with Danzo and not only was Sasuno without damage but it was more complete than previously when facing the other 4 Kages.

and that brings me into my next arguement! yes Raikage was extremely emotional-agreed but that just explains the fact he wore down Sasuke realy good. Sasuke seemed un-scratched when fighting Danzo because like i said Karin had healed him up alot before hand. if you remember Sasuke was very very worn out after fighting Raikage and it was shown when he tried to fight Mizukage and Tsuchikage. It was even stated by one of the Kages, Madara and/or even Sasuke himself that his fight with Raikage had really worn him out. and no Sasuke wasn't holding back! he was out to kill looking for vengence. he held back for no one when he was at the summit. he massacred alot of samurais and compared to the Sasuke when he was training with Oro he fought a army of people and didnt kill not one of them. when he formed Hebi he ordered Suigetsu to not to kill anyone! but at the summit he held back nothing and Jugo and Karin had noted that changed in Sasuke.

and finally no Sasuke did not let Bee escaped in fact with his MS eyes Sasuke was completely fooled and thats alot of browny points to Bee but give credit that Sasuke forced that hand onto Bee with the amterasu. Sasuke failed at capture and he did his very best to do so but Bee was forced to escape because he could not defend agaisnt the amterasu. and in his luck Bee used "being captured" as a way to escape the village for awhile. 2 birds with 1 stone for Bee. escape an attack and vacation from the village

thanks for the almost compliment btw alot of your arguements were sound and not so sound too

I'm going to try and use another perspective as this one does'nt get through.

If the raikage were strong enough to own an 8 tailed bijuu, madara, being the power hungry dog he is, would try to exploit him, like he did with the mizukage. When they met, madara praised the 4th hokage's abilities ( now THAT was one shinobi who was tougher than an 8 or 9 tailed jinchuriki)......in stark contrast to that, when he(madara) met the raikage, he made a complete idiot out of him like so:

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Madara meanwhile praised bee's abilities as a jinchuriki.

About the whole rib argument, it does'nt really matter, you're blowing it out of proportion. For example, where is the crack now:

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Here is an example of how sasuke's emotion affects the strength of his susanoo:

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Read the page before that as well to see how his susanoo suddenly springs up, sasuke WAS holding back against the raikage. These kekkei genkai powers are often triggered by emotions, the raikage was unimportant to sasuke's agenda. Madara states the whole point of the 5 kage fight:

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A training exercise for sasuke's sharingan, that was the mission objective. Compare that to a mission to capture and extract the 8 tails, and which mission was more serious becomes obvious......you get what i'm saying?

Anyhow, bee would probably win, to write him off at any rate would be a fatal mistake even against his elder brother the raikage.

 

[avengerofuchiha]

i say raikage cuz only he was able to escape amaterasu killer bee would have been captured by sasuke

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

i say raikage cuz only he was able to escape amaterasu killer bee would have been captured by sasuke

thank you lol this is a huge key point that i've made over and over !!

 

[kanesannin]

i say raikage cuz only he was able to escape amaterasu killer bee would have been captured by sasuke

would have been...? he was'nt captured, the 8 tails is still kicking, so invalid point

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

I'm going to try and use another perspective as this one does'nt get through.

If the raikage were strong enough to own an 8 tailed bijuu, madara, being the power hungry dog he is, would try to exploit him, like he did with the mizukage. When they met, madara praised the 4th hokage's abilities ( now THAT was one shinobi who was tougher than an 8 or 9 tailed jinchuriki)......in stark contrast to that, when he(madara) met the raikage, he made a complete idiot out of him like so:

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Madara meanwhile praised bee's abilities as a jinchuriki.

About the whole rib argument, it does'nt really matter, you're blowing it out of proportion. For example, where is the crack now:

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Here is an example of how sasuke's emotion affects the strength of his susanoo:

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Read the page before that as well to see how his susanoo suddenly springs up, sasuke WAS holding back against the raikage. These kekkei genkai powers are often triggered by emotions, the raikage was unimportant to sasuke's agenda. Madara states the whole point of the 5 kage fight:

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A training exercise for sasuke's sharingan, that was the mission objective. Compare that to a mission to capture and extract the 8 tails, and which mission was more serious becomes obvious......you get what i'm saying?

Anyhow, bee would probably win, to write him off at any rate would be a fatal mistake even against his elder brother the raikage.

no way these arguements are weak man.

Madara is powerful and his opinion count but lack of "praise and compliments" doesnt mean anything!! and Madara didnt make Raikage look dumb he just phased out like he does with EVERYONE who tries to attack him.

Sasuno was damage and the pictures dont lie man!! you cant argue that. it was more complete and alot stronger agaisnt Danzo cuz 1.Zetsu and Karin helped heal him and 2. like you said emotions made it stronger.

if you want to bring up emotions unlocking stronger bloodline jutsus than you must agree that the fact that Sasuke used Sasuno on Raikage and not Bee proved he had more emotions in his fight with Raikage than Bee.. which proved my earlier points that Sasuke was stronger in his fight with A than B. which proves my points that A did better in the fight than Bee cuz one major factor is that Bee was taken down by amterasu, forced to retreat and did not fight Sasuke with Sasuno. It is safe to assume thathad Sasuke had Sasuno Bee would have been captured. also amterasu did not take donw Raikage, Sasuke could not attack Raikage with Amaterasu so he used it defensively which did not slow down the Raikage at all in his attack.

anyways im not writing Bee off hes the best jinchuriki, most skilled swordsmen, hero of the cloud and loved by all. but he is also the baby brother of the most powerful shinobi in the lightening village and leader of the WHOLE JOINT SHINOBI ALLIANCE, Raikage!!! you want to talk about credibility!!?? Mifune appointed Raikage as leader of all 5 Great Nations and the Iron Country of Samurais saying he was the top choice!!

Raikage is the only person that Bee will listen too lol.. why?! "IRON CLAW"?!? LOL
"I am probably the only person to whom my brother will actually listen"-Raikage

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"He (Raikage) is the only one here capable of controlling the hachibi"-Mifune

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again the Raikage dominance over Bee is shown

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

would have been...? he was'nt captured, the 8 tails is still kicking, so invalid point

the point is valid. he never said Bee was captured. Bee was done for the fight when Amaterasu hit him like i said he was lucky to get an oppurtunity to escape. and escape he did because he couldnt fight agaisnt amaterasu

 

[kanesannin]

the point is valid. he never said Bee was captured. Bee was done for the fight when Amaterasu hit him like i said he was lucky to get an oppurtunity to escape. and escape he did because he couldnt fight agaisnt amaterasu

Wrong.....he could fight against ametarasu he just chose not to, and for the 100th time, Bee was NOT done for against sasuke!!

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Wrong.....he could fight against ametarasu he just chose not to, and for the 100th time, Bee was NOT done for against sasuke!!

The fight agaisnt Sasuke proves that he could not defend agaisnt amaterasu and that he was done for. Bee said it himself Sasuke was one of the toughest ppl he's faced.

 

[kanesannin]

no way these arguements are weak man.

Madara is powerful and his opinion count but lack of "praise and compliments" doesnt mean anything!! and Madara didnt make Raikage look dumb he just phased out like he does with EVERYONE who tries to attack him.

Sasuno was damage and the pictures dont lie man!! you cant argue that. it was more complete and alot stronger agaisnt Danzo cuz 1.Zetsu and Karin helped heal him and 2. like you said emotions made it stronger.

if you want to bring up emotions unlocking stronger bloodline jutsus than you must agree that the fact that Sasuke used Sasuno on Raikage and not Bee proved he had more emotions in his fight with Raikage than Bee.. which proved my earlier points that Sasuke was stronger in his fight with A than B. which proves my points that A did better in the fight than Bee cuz one major factor is that Bee was taken down by amterasu, forced to retreat and did not fight Sasuke with Sasuno. It is safe to assume thathad Sasuke had Sasuno Bee would have been captured. also amterasu did not take donw Raikage, Sasuke could not attack Raikage with Amaterasu so he used it defensively which did not slow down the Raikage at all in his attack.

anyways im not writing Bee off hes the best jinchuriki, most skilled swordsmen, hero of the cloud and loved by all. but he is also the baby brother of the most powerful shinobi in the lightening village and leader of the WHOLE JOINT SHINOBI ALLIANCE, Raikage!!! you want to talk about credibility!!?? Mifune appointed Raikage as leader of all 5 Great Nations and the Iron Country of Samurais saying he was the top choice!!

Raikage is the only person that Bee will listen too lol.. why?! "IRON CLAW"?!? LOL
"I am probably the only person to whom my brother will actually listen"-Raikage

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again the Raikage dominance over Bee is shown

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Ok, before we go any further, madara does that phasing thing with everyone who attacks him, eh? That was your statement. Now see this and the previous 2 pages of the same chapter,its all one attack,madara gets owned. Sure, he phased through the first attack but the 4th counter attacks immediately( the chain thingy), he DOES NOT go ramming into a wall, lol.

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I misquoted one link, just edited it those were the susanoo ribs i was referring to.

No, no nononono!!! Sasuke uses ametarasu AND susanoo because he is testing his ms powers!!! I already wrote that, i don't think you understood( or read) what i just wrote!! and I'M the one whose arguing is weak? Sheesh!
Sasuke's ms powers were being tested, that's what madara said, now explain to me how in the hell that's going to happen unless those powers are ALL USED(including susanoo)???
The bloodline/ emotional thingy brings out the real STRENGTH in a jutsu, not the jutsu itself( mostly). Fact is, bee's fight with sasuke was nothing more than a spar, at the end of which sasuke was fooled into thinking he had won, while bee went on vacation.

Being appointed the titular head of the joint shinobi alliance does'nt translate into strength. Tsunade is the leaf's hokage, are you implying she's stronger than everyone else in the leaf, including naruto?? Fail argument( sorry). There probably are others in the joint shinobi army in the same way who are stronger than the raikage.

 

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Ok, before we go any further, madara does that phasing thing with everyone who attacks him, eh? That was your statement. Now see this and the previous 2 pages of the same chapter,its all one attack,madara gets owned. Sure, he phased through the first attack but the 4th counter attacks immediately( the chain thingy), he DOES NOT go ramming into a wall, lol.

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I misquoted one link, just edited it those were the susanoo ribs i was referring to.

No, no nononono!!! Sasuke uses ametarasu AND susanoo because he is testing his ms powers!!! I already wrote that, i don't think you understood( or read) what i just wrote!! and I'M the one whose arguing is weak? Sheesh!
Sasuke's ms powers were being tested, that's what madara said, now explain to me how in the hell that's going to happen unless those powers are ALL USED(including susanoo)???
The bloodline/ emotional thingy brings out the real STRENGTH in a jutsu, not the jutsu itself( mostly). Fact is, bee's fight with sasuke was nothing more than a spar, at the end of which sasuke was fooled into thinking he had won, while bee went on vacation.

Being appointed the titular head of the joint shinobi alliance does'nt translate into strength. Tsunade is the leaf's hokage, are you implying she's stronger than everyone else in the leaf, including naruto?? Fail argument( sorry). There probably are others in the joint shinobi army in the same way who are stronger than the raikage.

Minato himself told Naruto during their one on one chat that Tobi was an extremely powerful ninja. yes Minato struck him but what do you expect from the legendary Yellow Flash?! everyone else has been phased on Naruto, Kakashi, Kiba, Yamato, Shino, Raikage, thats to name a few.

and i went to the next pages Raikage went through a wall.. thats not a big deal. Tobi made Naruto look more stupid than Raikage did.

it is not one sided! Madara wanted to test Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke wanted to kill ppl. He wanted to kill the Kages and Madara even said he hoped for it but it was probably not likely to happen. Sasuke's fight with Raikage pushed him to used Sasuno. yes emotions were tied to the fight. Raikaeg wanting vengence and so did Sasuke.

Bee vs Sasuke a "spar".. cmon really? your kidding. both parties almost died and you call that spar?! Amaterasu did bring down Bee. admit it. you cant deny that. Bee wasnt able to escape till the oppurtunity came from Sasuke cutting a limb while trying to protect Karin. Bee is an oppurtunitst and in fact Bee was trying to escape even before that part. he tried to hide behind a cliff until Karin sensed him out. Bee kept trying to run the whole fight.

i notice on alot of good points i made in the past posts you havent commented on them.

 

[kanesannin]

Minato himself told Naruto during their one on one chat that Tobi was an extremely powerful ninja. yes Minato struck him but what do you expect from the legendary Yellow Flash?! everyone else has been phased on Naruto, Kakashi, Kiba, Yamato, Shino, Raikage, thats to name a few.

and i went to the next pages Raikage went through a wall.. thats not a big deal. Tobi made Naruto look more stupid than Raikage did.

it is not one sided! Madara wanted to test Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke wanted to kill ppl. He wanted to kill the Kages and Madara even said he hoped for it but it was probably not likely to happen. Sasuke's fight with Raikage pushed him to used Sasuno. yes emotions were tied to the fight. Raikaeg wanting vengence and so did Sasuke.

Bee vs Sasuke a "spar".. cmon really? your kidding. both parties almost died and you call that spar?! Amaterasu did bring down Bee. admit it. you cant deny that. Bee wasnt able to escape till the oppurtunity came from Sasuke cutting a limb while trying to protect Karin. Bee is an oppurtunitst and in fact Bee was trying to escape even before that part. he tried to hide behind a cliff until Karin sensed him out. Bee kept trying to run the whole fight.

i notice on alot of good points i made in the past posts you havent commented on them.

I generally appreciate a good comment/point(look at other threads) and do compliment where appropriate. However, seeing as how you have not addressed the entire last paragraph of my last post, i find that a little hard to do now.

I am not 'kidding', it was just a spar ( but an intense one at that). Not that i agree with this, but if i use your way of thinking, then if both parties were close to dying then sasuke would have used his susanoo against bee which he did not so he was'nt close to dying( disproving your statement). Of course bee was trying to run, that only proves he was'nt interested in fighting and thus removing the question of him being brought down by ametarasu.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

no Bee has no negative feelings but he did want to get out of the cloud a lil bit.. im going to look for the page where he escaped and let that prove it to everyone.. you cant argue with the manga..

btw Naruto is hands down the strongest Leaf ninja now. Kakashi is probably the 2nd (not counting Naruto) best ninja in the village on account he was next to be Hokage.. and yes i would say Tsunade is stronger than Kakashi.. i would say she has way more chakra than him, she has way more fighting experience, shes a legendary sannin. i know we havent seen her do much but theres a reason Jiraiya personally went out to look for her to run the whole Leaf village as Hokage.

anyways... on a side note Raikage, just like Kisame, has tailed beast amount of chakra!!!!!!!!! (insert "over 9000" joke here)

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Yeah, are we talking Shukaku level? Or Hachibi. That's open to debate.

While his brother wouldn't let him leave to take a break doesn't mean that his brother could physically stop him if he was determined to go.

Agreed.

lol you dont get it though.. Bee has massive chakra reserves but so does Raikage. he probably has just as much being a non jinchuriki than Bee being one. Raikage is the person that keeps Bee in check. not saying Bee would do something crazy but mind you at one point he was hated and feared as every other jinchuriki. Raikage checks Bee. if Bee has huge chakra and vast skill to control it and Raikage checks em that means Raikage is stronger.. lol thats my strong opinion on it

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Bee hits Sasuke while in Bijuu Cloak Mode and Sasuke deflects it. Bee says "not since my brother has anyone been able to deflect #8". proves that Raikage can go up against Bee's Cloak Mode.

just wanted to point it out for ppl saying Raikage cant go up against Bee transformed

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Raikage's reaction to Bee's escaped.. shows that Raikage keeps him in check with his "iron claw" lol

Not necessarily, are you saying that Bee WANTS to fight his brother? Bee doesn't have negative feelings. He could have let Motoi die, kill him, or anything else like that for revenge for Motoi trying to kill him.

He could have killed Taka, Sasuke included. He almost DID twice. Why would Bee want to face up against his brother in a fight to the death?

Also, cloaked mode is different from a full Bijuu transformation. I don't see any defense the Raikage has at the moment to counter the Bijuu-Dama Ball.

Also, Bee vs. Sasuke was a "spar" as noted by the Hachibi who said "Why did you transform when the battle was under your control in the first place?"

 

[kanesannin]

Yeah, are we talking Shukaku level? Or Hachibi. That's open to debate.



Agreed.





Not necessarily, are you saying that Bee WANTS to fight his brother? Bee doesn't have negative feelings. He could have let Motoi die, kill him, or anything else like that for revenge for Motoi trying to kill him.

He could have killed Taka, Sasuke included. He almost DID twice. Why would Bee want to face up against his brother in a fight to the death?

Also, cloaked mode is different from a full Bijuu transformation. I don't see any defense the Raikage has at the moment to counter the Bijuu-Dama Ball.

Also, Bee vs. Sasuke was a "spar" as noted by the Hachibi who said "Why did you transform when the battle was under your control in the first place?"

Well said......thanks, i've been trying to make the same point, but to no avail.

 

[animals74]

I always thought that jinchurikis were "cheapos" as they were able to just call up
some large chakra and wipe their opponent's @$$. Err.. I'd have to say.. A
would win. Killer bee and A are both lightning affinity. Killer bee
is able to wield a lot of swords all at once and channel lightning element through them,
but A could probably punch Bee right out because he's really fast.

 

[kanesannin]

I always thought that jinchurikis were "cheapos" as they were able to just call up
some large chakra and wipe their opponent's @$$. Err.. I'd have to say.. A
would win. Killer bee and A are both lightning affinity. Killer bee
is able to wield a lot of swords all at once and channel lightning element through them,
but A could probably punch Bee right out because he's really fast.

A prejudiced opinion against jinchurikis in general, validation denied. Oh and btw, A is probably slower than b when the full power ( NOT just the tailed cloak) of the 8 tails is used .