[Discussion] who would win neji or kisame

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true. with bringing up Guy into the mix Neji seems a lil bit more powerful and maybe a fight between Kisame and Neji would be a close one after all.

btw Kisame did beat Bee up. Bee needed his bro to help finish Kisame off. and if it appears that way than it is what it is right?!

Guy beats Kisame 3 times correct?

Neji is Guys pupil.

Neji is a jonin same like Guy.

Neji is probably the most talented Hyuuga in his clan. the Hyuugas are one of the strongest clans and the Gentle Fist is one of the most strongest martial arts. Kisame S rank criminal, Mist Swords man and chakra level of that of a tailed beast.

Neji could seal Kisame's chakra points. but Kisame steal has Samehada which has plenty of chakra reserves and can steal chakra from Neji. now question is can a chakraless Neji still fight Kisame?!? is Gentle Fist still powerful without the chakra flowing to the oppenents body severing chakra points and channels through the users fingertips?!

good question.. Gentle Fist is still a taijutsu, maybe it might even be a nintaijutsu considering the chakra thing but Neji is a skilled fighter and i think he'd give Kisame a run for his money. Guy is his Neji's teacher and beat Kisame many times and Neji is at the same level as Guy maybe even higher cuz you know what they say, "younger generation surpassing the older".

im going to be the oddball and say my money's on Neji. in that battle Neji might whip out some lion looking chakra hands like Hinata did with Pain and come out with the underdog win

I agree totally with your conclusion but not the reason for your opinion. Samehada would not work on neji as his byakugan, being of the caliber it is, would easily detect the chakra flowing into samehada and nejji could counter-attack from a distance. Furthermore, once the chakra points are closed, a fighter is completely immobile and for all intents and purposes paralyzed(the only reason naruto survived was because of the 9 tails chakra).
 

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I hate thos who will win threads...it doesnt matter...we will never see them fighting and this is the wrong section...go to naruto discusion section and save this section from your craps...
 

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During Orochimaru's destruction of the hidden leaf village, Hiashi Hyuuga used an 8 trigrams palm rotation to knock out about 8-10 Sand and Sound ninja at once. Then he said something like, "The Hyuuga Clan is the strongest in the Hidden leaf Village, remember it."
If you have watched the recent filler/anime, you would again see Lord Hiashi in action, as he uses his Kaiten Rotation to easily deflect an earth technique, and then seemingly remotely controlled a Gentle Fist Air Palm to knock out the fleeing Cloud Ninja.

The Hyuuga Clan is strong, unpredictable, and we haven't seen their full capabilities as yet. Furthermore, Neji is the most talented Hyuuga in Konoha after probably his father and uncle. He is now a Jounin and must have tricks up his sleeve too.
During his fight against Kisame, he easily dispatched the Suiton: Water Prison Technique, the same technique that Naruto, Gai, Yamato, Motoi and Killer Bee all had problems with. It is also one of Kisame's primary techniques.


We have seen Kisame's capabilities, but not all of Neji's, and the Hyuuga Clan in particular. There is a reason the cloud is trying to get the Byakugan, it is a legendary doujutsu. So, the fight may not be as easy as everyone predicts. Keeping your techniques a secret can be the difference between life and death. That is why Gai (the underdog) beat Kisame. That is why Madara is still alive. Neji definitely has a possibility of winning. Don't write him off.

My prediction... With Samehada, Kisame wins. Without it, Neji wins, but barely.

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I hate thos who will win threads...it doesnt matter...we will never see them fighting and this is the wrong section...go to naruto discusion section and save this section from your craps...
If you hate the 'who will win threads' so much why do you even bother to post with YOUR crap?? If you don't have something nice to say or positive to contribute, please shut up and let those who do do it without rebuttals
 

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I would have to say Kisame... I believe the only reason Gai won is because he didn't use chakra.. Kisame should have the ability to suck the chakra out of the attacks. When fused with his sword I don't think trying to close the chakra points would work. Neji would have a chance.. But Kisame was totally elite.. I just don't see Neji being a good match for Kisame..
 

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Well, since Gai had to use 7 gates just to beat Kisame by pure luck ( and that was even without Samehada ) I doubt it.
Not to underestimate Neji, I am sure he is on par with Gai or at least close to it, but I doubt he has such a chakraless luck move up his sleeve.
 

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Some people are serious stupid!

Kisame can beat so many ninja's.. I think he is the strongest non-kekkei genkai character. Only Sharingan beats him.

Ofcourse he had to fight Gai when he already fought killerbee.. Just like all the other Akatsuki members they have been way to much unlucky or get killed to ***** easy like kakuzu or a Hidan who is dumber then rookie naruto! Sasori beats a hokage but can't beat sakura and his grandma... yeah whatever. Sasuke who could stop Deidera his attack because on naruto lighting beats earth?!?!?!

People underestimate the akatsuki members way to much.

Good have to win so don't think a Neji can beat kisame!
 

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Neji would lose but I don't think by that much. Neji is also one of the best opponents Kisame has faced.
1st as we have seen Kisame isn't great against taijutsu.
2nd Neji stops the chakra flow and Kisame is nothing without his large chakra.
3rd Neji's rotation blocks chakra based attacks and repels taijutsu attacks.

If surrounded by water Neji would lose. Or if he can't get close to Kisame to strike him because Kisame isn't a short range fighter and can use long and mid range jutsus and Neji isn't known for his running speed like kakashi, Gai and Naruto.
 
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Why do people keep saying that Lee doesn't have chakra? He has the same amount of chakra as everyone else does. Without chakra, it is impossible to open the 8 chakra gates. That is why they are called chakra gates. Lee just can't form the chakra into ninjustu techniques, which is why he is only able to enhance himself internally in order to use the chakra externally. Taijutsu still uses chakra, but it also uses pure force and speed, which is why chakra cannot be sucked away from it.
 

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During Orochimaru's destruction of the hidden leaf village, Hiashi Hyuuga used an 8 trigrams palm rotation to knock out about 8-10 Sand and Sound ninja at once. Then he said something like, "The Hyuuga Clan is the strongest in the Hidden leaf Village, remember it."
If you have watched the recent filler/anime, you would again see Lord Hiashi in action, as he uses his Kaiten Rotation to easily deflect an earth technique, and then seemingly remotely controlled a Gentle Fist Air Palm to knock out the fleeing Cloud Ninja.

The Hyuuga Clan is strong, unpredictable, and we haven't seen their full capabilities as yet. Furthermore, Neji is the most talented Hyuuga in Konoha after probably his father and uncle. He is now a Jounin and must have tricks up his sleeve too.
During his fight against Kisame, he easily dispatched the Suiton: Water Prison Technique, the same technique that Naruto, Gai, Yamato, Motoi and Killer Bee all had problems with. It is also one of Kisame's primary techniques.


We have seen Kisame's capabilities, but not all of Neji's, and the Hyuuga Clan in particular. There is a reason the cloud is trying to get the Byakugan, it is a legendary doujutsu. So, the fight may not be as easy as everyone predicts. Keeping your techniques a secret can be the difference between life and death. That is why Gai (the underdog) beat Kisame. That is why Madara is still alive. Neji definitely has a possibility of winning. Don't write him off.

My prediction... With Samehada, Kisame wins. Without it, Neji wins, but barely.

Sly
I almost forgot about that. everyone thinks that gentle fist is only close range but their are mid range attacks also that the higher level Hyuugas can use!!! now that i think of it Neji would soo win agaisnt Kisame.. yea hes S rank criminal, 7 Mist Swordsmen and known as the tailes bijuu but Neji is a Genius Jonin, one of if not the best Hyuuga clan member...
 

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Ok guys I like neji but his chance of winning is less then 2%....I mean really look at da facts neji moves expel chakra ....kes sword takes chakra so neji style is useless ...him getting out of kes traps like da water prison is only going to take more chakra from neji...neji being a jonin means nothing naruto and sasuke are genin and they are da strongest of da rookie 12...and have u seen da leaf's jonin? Not a lot to look at ...in da end its all about da match up and dis one is not a good one for neji ...but on da flip side neji is a smart fighter da only way for him to win dis fight is to know of it in advance to set up traps in hope dat they work otherwise its a loss for him and to all yall saying we don't know what he is capable of stop all of da huga's atk and def is chakra based so it stands to reason dat whatever they have to hide is also chakra based
 

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Yeah, unless neji has some kind of huge secret release like guy's 7th gates and the daytime tiger punch (which beat kisame because he thought the tiger was a ninjutsu and not taijutsu so he tried countering with a tech that absorbs chakra) i doubt theres any chance.
 
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Last action rape in Naruto. I can even imagine Neji crying his guts out and Kisame spanking Neji's flesh out while, what's the name of Naruto's girl?..is being hit home run by Kisame while she tries to do something.

I aCtually thought Neji might have had a chance if it wasn't for the freaking sword
 

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Neji would give Kisame a run for his money for sure. Yall are really underestimating the most talented Hyuuga!!! He's jonin and yea Naruto and Sasuke are genins but they are the EXCEPTION in the manga!! they are Kage level ninjas!!! Sasuke fought all 5 kages, made Raikage lose an arm and killed Danzo and was still tryna fight Kakashi afterwards. Naruto single handly defeated all 6 Paths of Pain who killed Sage Jiraiya one of the legendary sannins, Kakashi, knocked Tsunade the Hokage into a long coma and killed/injured a whole bunch of really good ninjas. using Naruto and Sasuke them as examples dont even help!!

Anyways....... everyone in the Akatsuki are really strong no exception but look at some of the people that we all thought were weak or lame or not as strong who defeated these S Rank criminals!!

Grandma Chiyo-Sasori
Sakura-Sasori
Kankuro-Sasori and Diedara ressurected
Sai-Ssori and Diedara ressurected
Omoi-Sasori and Diedara ressurected
Guy-Kisame (3xs)
Sasuke-Diedara, Itachi and Orochimaru who is a former member
Naruto- Kakuza and All 6 Paths of Pain
Shikumaru-Hidan

who would have thought Sakura or Shikumaru could go toe to toe with S Rank ninjas!! Sasori killed the 3rd Kazekage and Hidan is immortal but were still beaten!! My point is yall are underestimating Neji to say he would get owned or has a 2% chance of winning.. with alot of these other ninjas that beat akatsuki members dont look like they had a chance either.

Guy owned Kisame and uses zero ninjutsu!! Guy is Neji's master and Neji is at the same level of skill as Guy maybe even higher. and alot of you are saying its because of Guy's taijutsu that beat Kisame. the Gentle Fist is a taijutsu!!!! it does require chakra but little to none of it. does an Air Palm Strike require chakra?! no. for those who dont know what im talking about check the latest episode of Naruto when Neji's uncle air palm the ish outta someone..

btw think about this.. what could Kisame do after all his chakra points and channels been severed?! swing his sword?! Neji would easily dodge and counter with a Rotation and 64 Palms..
 

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Neji would give Kisame a run for his money for sure. 1)Yall are really underestimating the most talented Hyuuga!!! He's jonin and yea Naruto and Sasuke are genins but they are the EXCEPTION in the manga!! they are Kage level ninjas!!! Sasuke fought all 5 kages, made Raikage lose an arm and killed Danzo and was still tryna fight Kakashi afterwards. Naruto single handly defeated all 6 Paths of Pain who killed Sage Jiraiya one of the legendary sannins, Kakashi, knocked Tsunade the Hokage into a long coma and killed/injured a whole bunch of really good ninjas. using Naruto and Sasuke them as examples dont even help!!

Anyways....... everyone in the Akatsuki are really strong no exception but look at some of the people that we all thought were weak or lame or not as strong who defeated these S Rank criminals!!

2)Grandma Chiyo-Sasori
Sakura-Sasori
3)Kankuro-Sasori and Diedara ressurected
Sai-Ssori and Diedara ressurected
Omoi-Sasori and Diedara ressurected
4)Guy-Kisame (3xs)
5)Sasuke-Diedara, Itachi and Orochimaru who is a former member
6)Naruto- Kakuza and All 6 Paths of Pain
7)Shikumaru-Hidan


who would have thought Sakura or Shikumaru could go toe to toe with S Rank ninjas!! Sasori killed the 3rd Kazekage and Hidan is immortal but were still beaten!! My point is yall are underestimating Neji to say he would get owned or has a 2% chance of winning.. with alot of these other ninjas that beat akatsuki members dont look like they had a chance either.

8)Guy owned Kisame and uses zero ninjutsu!! Guy is Neji's master and Neji is at the same level of skill as Guy maybe even higher. and alot of you are saying its because of Guy's taijutsu that beat Kisame. 9)the Gentle Fist is a taijutsu!!!! it does require chakra but little to none of it. does an Air Palm Strike require chakra?! no. for those who dont know what im talking about check the latest episode of Naruto when Neji's uncle air palm the ish outta someone..

btw think about this.. what could Kisame do after all his chakra points and channels been severed?! swing his sword?! Neji would easily dodge and counter with a Rotation and 64 Palms..
1) u just proved my point dat rank don't matter
2) sakura was being controlled by a master puppeteer otherwise she would have lost
3) all of dat was bs look at da way day died and day only killed 1 bus user ???really
4) its all about da match up
5) again its all about da match up
6) more bs but da name of da show is naruto...da naruto vs kakuza was pure bs and in da naruto vs pain...pain should have killed naruto when he had him pinned to da ground but its da naruto show
7) Shikumaru left dat fight and made a plan for like 3 days
(#'s 2,3,&7 were not 1 on 1 fights)
8) exactly da match up
9) neji's taijutsu is nothing with out chakra, all of neji's moves are chakra based ALL OF THEM so temari's moves don't ues chakra??? yes and so does neji"s air palm

sorry dude 2% is all he gets and its not "underestimating", or overestimating facts are facts like it or not
 

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kisame did'nt really beat up bee, it just appeared that way. Furthermore, you can't use logic like that because mite guy beat the living crap out of kisame, all on his own, so then if neji is close to beating guy, he'd definitely beat kisame.....guy is neji's sensei and its hard to believe neji is'nt close to beating him as he always pawnd lee, guy's photocopy.
Might guy didn't beat the tar out of Kisame ... he beat the crap out of a clone of Kisame's that was using 30 % of his chakra... The clones weren't even using Samehada properley and we all know what lil Samehada is capable of doing... It's overkill Neji dosen't stand a chance!
 

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Neji would give Kisame a run for his money for sure. Yall are really underestimating the most talented Hyuuga!!! He's jonin and 1.yea Naruto and Sasuke are genins but they are the EXCEPTION in the manga!! they are Kage level ninjas!!! Sasuke fought all 5 kages, made Raikage lose an arm and killed Danzo and was still tryna fight Kakashi afterwards. Naruto single handly defeated all 6 Paths of Pain who killed Sage Jiraiya one of the legendary sannins, Kakashi, knocked Tsunade the Hokage into a long coma and killed/injured a whole bunch of really good ninjas. using Naruto and Sasuke them as examples dont even help!!

Anyways....... everyone in the Akatsuki are really strong no exception but look at some of the people that we all thought were weak or lame or not as strong who defeated these S Rank criminals!!

2.Grandma Chiyo-Sasori
Sakura-Sasori
3.Kankuro-Sasori and Diedara ressurected
Sai-Ssori and Diedara ressurected
Omoi-Sasori and Diedara ressurected
4.Guy-Kisame (3xs)
5.Sasuke-Diedara, Itachi and Orochimaru who is a former member
6.Naruto- Kakuza and All 6 Paths of Pain
7.Shikumaru-Hidan


who would have thought Sakura or Shikumaru could go toe to toe with S Rank ninjas!! Sasori killed the 3rd Kazekage and Hidan is immortal but were still beaten!! My point is yall are underestimating Neji to say he would get owned or has a 2% chance of winning.. with alot of these other ninjas that beat akatsuki members dont look like they had a chance either.

8.Guy owned Kisame and uses zero ninjutsu!! Guy is Neji's master and Neji is at the same level of skill as Guy maybe even higher. and alot of you are saying its because of Guy's taijutsu that beat Kisame. 9.the Gentle Fist is a taijutsu!!!! it does require chakra but little to none of it. does an Air Palm Strike require chakra?! no. for those who dont know what im talking about check the latest episode of Naruto when Neji's uncle air palm the ish outta someone..

btw think about this.. what could Kisame do after all his chakra points and channels been severed?! swing his sword?! Neji would easily dodge and counter with a Rotation and 64 Palms..
1) u just proved my point dat rank don't matter
2) sakura was being controlled by a master puppeteer otherwise she would have lost
3) all of dat was bs look at da way day died and day only killed 1 bus user ???really
4) its all about da match up
5) again its all about da match up
6) more bs but da name of da show is naruto...da naruto vs kakuza was pure bs and in da naruto vs pain...pain should have killed naruto when he had him pinned to da ground but its da naruto show
7) Shikumaru left dat fight and made a plan for like 3 days
(#'s 2,3,&7 were not 1 on 1 fights)
8) exactly da match up
9) neji's taijutsu is nothing with out chakra, all of neji's moves are chakra based ALL OF THEM so temari's moves don't ues chakra??? yes and so does neji"s air palm

sorry dude 2% is all he gets and its not "underestimating", or overestimating facts are facts like it or not
1. no i did not prove your point because Naruto and Sasuke are the exceptions!!! Rank does matter alot!!

2. If you want to be technical it was Lady Chiyo, Sakura and her movements being aided by Chiyo (not all her movements were controlled), Chiyos father and mother puppets, and her 10 other puppets vs Sasori, his Kazekage puppet and another 100 puppets he owned!!! i think Chiyo and Sakura were very out numbered

3. no it wasnt bs. why would you say that? how was it bs? they were up agaisnt ninjas that couldnt die but they had very valuable intel on all of them! whats so bs?

4. whats your point?

5. again whats your point?!

6. well idk what to say to you. you should take that up with Kishi. do you want the main character to be a failure and a loser? anyways it still stands that Naruto won when the odds were agaisnt him and thats fact bs or not.

7. planned or not it still stands that he won even though he was not as powerful and had odds agaisnt him.

chiyo and sakura vs sasori your right sasori had way more puppets agaisnt them and that proves my point that the odds were stacked agaisnt chiyo and sakura. your right about the 3rd one too.

it was ambush squad vs ambush squad and Madara's squad were unkillable which also stacked the odds agaisnt Kankuro, Omoi, Sai and the rest of their squad. that again proves my point. and the last one was shikumaru, choji, ino, kakashi vs hidan and kakuza.

oh dont forget that kakuza had 3 hearts that had their own special effinites and moved on their own that also fought. so thats 4 (shikumaru's team) agaisnt 5. hmm not really fair for shikumaru's team and the odds were again agaisnt them but they won and that proves my point once again!!

you left out that Naruto had to fight 6 Pains at once. again proves my point despite you think its bs cuz Naruto's the main character.

8. really what is your point?!?!

9. Gentle Fist requires very little chakra. small amounts of chakra is at the fingertips and flow through the opponets body to severe chakra points. and Kisame is nothing without his chakra and sword!! Neji hits Kisame in the right spots. Kisame cant form jutsu or even control his chakra cuz his main points are damaged! Neji and Kisame both have no chakra and Kisame gets owned in a one on one taijutsu match. "facts are facts like it or not "
 

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His point is, kisame is the super-counter of anyone who relies on chakra to fight, his sword eats jutsu and chakra right out of bodies, so guy who uses chakra for basicly only the gates and summoning his turtle can't feed kisame's sword with jutsu and is freakishly fast and strong compared to 99% of ninja, (neji included) so kisame can't scale his power up over guy, but he can do it to everyone else except rock lee, allowing him to drain them dry and carry them in alive (beating the 4 tails singlehandedly without a scratch, and bee was down but samehada betrayed him and made it take long enough for raikage to arrive and save him)

so i don't think neji is fast enough to hit kisame's chakra points seeing as kisame is the strongest in a group of people who are famous for fighting with swords im sure they are compatent with hand to hand (or weapon to weapon or weapon to hand) combat so its not like neji just gets in punching range and shuts kisame's entire body down, hes a taijutsu specialist but he dosen't have insane speed and power like guy
 

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Jounin can beat beat a hokage-level with power of a tailed beast plus samehada?
'but Neji is a genius..!' People please.. Kisame is a genius too or how the hell he get so strong and so much chakra!?


This shouldn't be a discussion...
 
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