[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 519 Discussion and 520 Predictions

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Hmm ive been thinking about the rasengan developed by Minato. How do you think minato got the idea to create the rasengan?

Maybe it could be possible that he saw this technique first done by his wife, Narutos mother, since she was the former kyubi. Im going to assume that she did use the kyubis power atleast once so that minato could see it. Probably the reason why Minato had that transportation seal on her was because he saw the distructive power of the kyubi bomb.He saw this technique and decided to learn to master such a skill, so that he would later teach it to kushina so that she could use it in battle. Minato came up with Rasengan. A chakra molding technique that could one day be used by Kushina his wife. Now Narutos main technique and gift of his father to control the ultimate weapon.
Kushina never could control the fox. Her chakra could suppress it but she was not a perfect jinchuuriki like Bee or Naruto. So I doubt her using the TBB. And I don't think an imperfect jinchuuriki (no offence, she is one of my 2 favourite female characters) like her would be allowed out of the village, especially as she was the Nine tails' host. But from Bee's trembling we can see he knew the 4th. So I'm betting on Minato seeing Bee use the TBB.
 

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Kushina never could control the fox. Her chakra could suppress it but she was not a perfect jinchuuriki like Bee or Naruto. So I doubt her using the TBB. And I don't think an imperfect jinchuuriki (no offence, she is one of my 2 favourite female characters) like her would be allowed out of the village, especially as she was the Nine tails' host. But from Bee's trembling we can see he knew the 4th. So I'm betting on Minato seeing Bee use the TBB.
Bee's trembling could mean two things the first is that he actually is afraid of the fourth,or that he felt that its fate that minato had created the rasengan to pass it to his son so he could be able to perform the tailed beast ultimate attack.
 

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Kushina never could control the fox. Her chakra could suppress it but she was not a perfect jinchuuriki like Bee or Naruto. So I doubt her using the TBB. And I don't think an imperfect jinchuuriki (no offence, she is one of my 2 favourite female characters) like her would be allowed out of the village, especially as she was the Nine tails' host. But from Bee's trembling we can see he knew the 4th. So I'm betting on Minato seeing Bee use the TBB.
I wasnt actually saying that she masteres or was even closed to doing so, But i was talking about maybe 4 tails, like when naruto fought Orochimaru. Naruto used a kyubi chakra bomb back then. So i assume that kushina might have lost control at some point and 4 tails appear and i think you get the rest.

I also assume that people would tremble wth the name of the fourth since he fought the Ninja war and was well known for being one of the strongest shinobi in the ninja world
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 520 Predictions and 519 Discussions

Ugh, kishi is getting so lame. Can't he think of a NEW technique, all this is is just another stupid version of rasengan. It's getting pathetic.
Yeah right, i also think that, the rasengan is getting too old, moreover, naruto doesn't really posses any cool jutsus, all he ever does is shadow clone, rasengan, and physical combat, i trust that we would all like to see some cool jutsus from naruto.
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Win Ch.

Oh and btw about 518... About people saying "they're weaker when coming back to life" is that why Deidara was good vs the Tsuchikage? He was still holding his own vs a Kage. I've just thought of this and am wondering what the excuse is now...
 
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dude we know that is not the fact the some of us need to c a whole different jutsu besides the rasengan allot of us just saying doesn't hurt to c a whole new jutsu from naruto other than the rasengans over n over
What u guys are forgeting is how much time it takes Naruto to complete a new technique, I give credits to Kishi for not going all out giving everyone new powerful jutsu techniques all of a sudden.... Naruto isn't as good as learning things, Sasuke for example: has created and mastered powerful techniques in short time periods, yea sure its anime, but I respect Kishi for actually following the charateristics of the the characters in the narutoverse, lets just take one step at a time and get answers to the many questions that are still unanswered! plus i guess u guys forgot about the possibilities Naruto can do in new mode
 
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wew....... so what if naruto do not have other jutsu?
THink of minato, what just does he have? the fourth hokage only knows, rasengan, Flying thunder god. and summoning technique!! i think its the same as naruto....

they both use same jutsu over and over.. but hey!! their still awesome
 

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Instead of fillers the should do chronicles of different characters...
Imagine how EPIC orichimarus, the 1st's, 2nds.3rds,4ths, 6 sages, kakuzus, 7 swordsman of the mists,hanzos, kyuubis,itachis would be. Not to mention all of these could go for a few episodes each, that would give them plenty of time to get in front of the anime and come on it wouldn't be hard to think of a mad story line for each in a couple of hours.
IT WOULD BLOW YOUR MIND NIGGERS!
 

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wew....... so what if naruto do not have other jutsu?
THink of minato, what just does he have? the fourth hokage only knows, rasengan, Flying thunder god. and summoning technique!! i think its the same as naruto....

they both use same jutsu over and over.. but hey!! their still awesome
I'm not sure of it. He was very talented compared to naruto. This has already been stated by jiraiya. Remember how he released kyubi from madara's control. He's sealing techniques were awesome. Naruto still has to do a lot of work. I don't have any problem with new rasengan but minato was way ahead compared to naruto right now in techniques.
 

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I'm not sure of it. He was very talented compared to naruto. This has already been stated by jiraiya. Remember how he released kyubi from madara's control. He's sealing techniques were awesome. Naruto still has to do a lot of work. I don't have any problem with new rasengan but minato was way ahead compared to naruto right now in techniques.
i agree ...lol :)
 

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Rasengan is an awesome Ultimate technique that is not easily mastered and frankly is better than Chidori, why can i say that....simple! Chidori uses a massive amount of chakra and the user can usually only use it 3-4 times in one day- anymore and they will DIE!!! Kakkashi mentioned this while training Sauske for chunin exam. Rasengan on the other hand does not have this limitation. Naruto can use it all day long.

Shadow clones- mere mortals ( normal ninja) can usually on come up with 5-8 at the most. Naruto up to 2000! enough said!
Sasuke can use Chidori all day long too. And I thought Naruto could only make 1000 clones?:confused:
 

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Good observation overall...one thing I will comment on is the above highlighted point. A) MINATO sealed Half the 'YIN' PORTION of the fox's chakra within himself ....he took the other half of the fox's chakra 'YANG PORTION and sealed it WITHIN NARUTO. Remember, Minato could only take half of the Fox's Chakra away...it was impossible to do more than that and he admitted that. The Fox still had half his full chakra when he was sealed into naruto, naruto would only have access to a portion of the yang chakra mixing with his own. (for confirmation pls go to chapter 503, 504. re-read.)

B) As 16 years have now gone by wouldnt you think the fox's full chakra would be restored by now???? Makes perfect sense because Chakra continues to grow back because it is simply engery. We use it up, rest and get our enegy back, same thing with the fox. My point is simply that Naruto took a huge portion away from the fox himself during his fight with the fox while training with KBee, and yet the fox still have enormous reserves left. Almost Identical to what happen when his Father took half of the chakra away from the fox 16 years earlier. The third hokage noticed how much it shrunk after loosing so much of its chakra, and the same thing happened when naruto defeated him and took a huge portion 16 years later.

The difference this time is since naruto had the key and unlocked the seal, the portion he took directly from the fox was not limited to the Yang portion, he took it directly from the fox meaning he got a full Yin & Yang portion.

Naruto was used to the Yang portion he grew up with because it was part of him and that gave him huge physical energy reserves allowing him to learn sage mode etc. But this chakra is different perhaps because it contains both yin & yang!!!!
This may possibly be one of the reasons it (chakra) feels so different to him because it is so much more vibrant & dynamic.


Hope you all follow what Im trying to say here.... Anyway I am not sure what it all really means but I think it will have a bearing on future understanding of this whole thing including his training and how/why the fox will eventually work with naruto.


ps: Still, no one has ever explained how Naruto instantly knew how to do the seal he used on the fox, which the fox knew and recognized as a technique of the Sage of the Six Paths???
hi mjtuvok!
thanks for the comment re my discussion with quitoisright. just that your quote of my post is incomplete. anyways, I follow through your thoughts. do correct me…

A. i re-read the reference you mentioned. i for one understood the chapters and what they simply mean. i think minato sealed half of the fox’s yin-yang to Naruto and half of the mixture to himself. my answer to quito re the chakra was – Naruto was able to get the “yin” or the white chakra from the fox. as you mentioned – the “energy”. The color of the chakra was white. it was clear in the manga frames. the black chakra, the “yang “ stayed with the fox – and evidently, it was the fox’s will. and I believe, bee implies this in the current chapter during the training.

let’s discuss a bit of yin-yang.
yin is supposed to be the “female” or dark part of the circline symbol.
yang is the “male” or the white part.

now…Naruto is male – meaning, his yang aspect stays with him. during his fight with the fox, he was able to extract the white chakra. i referred to this as the “dark” chakra Naruto needed for his powers. just that, it was shown white – hence the female aspect for Naruto. And this is “the balance” Naruto would want for himself since he can’t tame the fox’s will yet. yin-yang essence – “balance”, i think it rings the bell.
anyways, black or white, the chakra we refer to is the “energy” of the fox. i may be wrong tough…

B. i am also confused re yin yang when great thinkers discuss it. but by simply understanding “balance”, i ought to conclude that everything or anything would have a “yin-yang”. love, hate, earth, wind, fire,,,any element or what have we. and I agree with you, yin-yang could be used up, could grow and could be taken as reserves.

after 16 years, after the the “fated encounter” between the fox, minato and Naruto…i really do believe – THE FOX’S CHAKRA – YIN-YANG AS A WHOLE, WAS RESTORED.
Naruto, as the jinchuriki had used the fox’s chakra on several accounts – full yin yang mixture.
but after his battle with the fox, it was very clear that the “yin” was what Naruto succeeded to absorb. Naruto’s WILL OR YANG won over the fox’s – i guess there will be no question about this. As to what color…we could possibly interchange this according to what we believe in. but it would be healthy to learn from you and from anybody else.

i have to contest you that, Naruto was not able to get half of the mixture yin-yang. It could be the yin or the yang only. this was clear in the manga as well – the fox’s will remained with the monster. or, it could be the “yin” of the fox. Not very sure…

yes, your premises could also be considerable. this is an open discussion point after all. yin-yang, the yin only, or the yang only…would be very well the reason of Naruto’s vibrance and dynamism since childhood we witnessed in the storylines.

What you say?...
Let’s discuss the sealing tech Naruto used with the fox some other time.
The fox referred to it as one of the so6p’s tech. a tech that is innate among uzumaki clan – which the clan inherited from the so6p of course.
I think, Naruto possesses the tech even he does not say something about it yet…sealing tech is moot and academic “innate” in him. and this is another worthy topic.

til next mjtuvok
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 520 Predictions and 519 Discussions

First off, props to your awesome analysis. Can't say much but it's the truth.
My pleasure. Thank you.

Just as an idea for a wind technique Naruto could learn: imagine if he could develop wind chakra into an offensive armour, similar to Raikage's Raiton armour. We already know well how advanced a taijutsu user Naruto is: even outside of Sage mode he was able to fight on the same level as the Deva Path, and those who have watched the ending sequence for the most recent set of anime episode will know that Naruto is at least as good as Neji, Lee and Tenten, the three most noted taijutsu users of their generation. Therefore, if Rasenshuriken and now Tailed Beast Bomb can take care of long-range moves, perhaps Naruto could turn his attention to developing hand-to-hand abilities.

Imagine a cloak of chakra where even if a hand were to brush an object it would lacerate it into fragments. I can imagine Naruto using that, in Sage mode, developed using natural energy. Of course, it would probably be best if he first concentrated on increasing the speed with which he draws in natural energy, but I think it would be an excellent counter to Sasuke's Chidori Current. Thoughts?


Oh, and I meant to mention something else. I very much doubt Minato would have developed Rasengan for Naruto: as we're well aware, the sealing of the fox into baby Naruto was not the plan up until no other option presented itself. Perhaps Minato eventually intended to transfer the fox from Kushina to Naruto, but again, I believe that to be impossible, because previous jinchuurikis died from such a process and Minato would not wish to risk Kushina's life.

So. Why was Rasengan developed? Frankly, is it too much to assume that it's just a really powerful technique, and was not intended as the means for a junchuuriki to use the Tailed Beast Bomb? Perhaps Minato developed it for Kushina, but she was hardly on good terms with the Fox. The fact that Naruto is able to use the skills Rasengan required to perfect the Bomb is one thing: narrative. And I'm not complaining.
 
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 520 Predictions and 519 Discussions

My pleasure. Thank you.

Just as an idea for a wind technique Naruto could learn: imagine if he could develop wind chakra into an offensive armour, similar to Raikage's Raiton armour. We already know well how advanced a taijutsu user Naruto is: even outside of Sage mode he was able to fight on the same level as the Deva Path, and those who have watched the ending sequence for the most recent set of anime episode will know that Naruto is at least as good as Neji, Lee and Tenten, the three most noted taijutsu users of their generation. Therefore, if Rasenshuriken and now Tailed Beast Bomb can take care of long-range moves, perhaps Naruto could turn his attention to developing hand-to-hand abilities.

Imagine a cloak of chakra where even if a hand were to brush an object it would lacerate it into fragments. I can imagine Naruto using that, in Sage mode, developed using natural energy. Of course, it would probably be best if he first concentrated on increasing the speed with which he draws in natural energy, but I think it would be an excellent counter to Sasuke's Chidori Current. Thoughts?


Oh, and I meant to mention something else. I very much doubt Minato would have developed Rasengan for Naruto: as we're well aware, the sealing of the fox into baby Naruto was not the plan up until no other option presented itself. Perhaps Minato eventually intended to transfer the fox from Kushina to Naruto, but again, I believe that to be impossible, because previous jinchuurikis died from such a process and Minato would not wish to risk Kushina's life.

So. Why was Rasengan developed? Frankly, is it too much to assume that it's just a really powerful technique, and was not intended as the means for a junchuuriki to use the Tailed Beast Bomb? Perhaps Minato developed it for Kushina, but she was hardly on good terms with the Fox. The fact that Naruto is able to use the skills Rasengan required to perfect the Bomb is one thing: narrative. And I'm not complaining.
um maye he intended it for kushina
 
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