[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 514 Discussion/ 515 Predictions
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why does everyone keep saying that with the rinnengan, madara can use izangi over and over again? why would that have anything to do with it?
he can use izangi over and over again because he has a lab full of sharingans anytime he wants and he has senju and uchiha dna and the sharingan. he himself explained that those were the requirements for using izangi. and he even said that it closes the eye permanently...so was that the first time madara ever used izangi? hell no... he used it against sasukes ameratsu, i have a feeling he used it when the 4th hokage stabbed him in the heart, and also most likely he used it at the end of his battle with hashirama...any others?
so that means that the sharingan he had in before the rinnengan just went in the left eye, were the eyes of other uchiha that he had collected and like danzo he would use izangi and then just replace the "used up" eye with a new fresh one. he explained the the difference between danzo and himself was that his was better. probably that it lasts longer or was more effective. i don't believe that he meant that he could use it indefinitely(maybe he did though, maybe he could refresh it after a short period of time). and i would assume it was more effective izanagi because he unlike danzo was a true uchiha.
so that leads into my next point...
if he switches eyes out after using them, then they are no longer the eyes of his brother's EMS... so would he give up those abilities having lost those original eyes?
i dont believe so... i think its like a combining of dna...it enhances the person its in, and then with ANY sharingan they can "activate" their own sharingan powers...
so im starting to suspect that its the individual who holds the MS, EMS, etc. and
any uchiha eye would give them the same abilities they had before...
right? so even if sasuke uses izangi with itachi's eyes and they close, he could just replace it with another sharingan and it would still be EMS...
another example... if madara sacrificed an eye using izangi, he would replace it with another sharingan and still have his own EMS he gained from his brother years ago? or not? he keeps the right eye an EMS, and lets the left eye switch to regular MS so he can keep using izangi? i just dont know...
its sort of confusing the eye switching thing... i mean disgusting too... what the hell was he thinking when he created this ridiculous eye surgery bit?
excuse my ramblings, ive been thinking about this for some time now.
i would love some intellectual opinions on whats up with the eyes.
will sasuke seek senju dna so that he too can use izangi?
what will naruto do? will he go to save yamato?
also, i wonder how they will use yamato to make zetsu stronger.
i think i might be afraid to know...
kabutomaru is probably gonna do some twisted doctoring and merge zetsu with yamato. zetmato is next!!
damn i cant wait till someone ends madara's sick scheming once and for all.
i dont even really care who it is...kabutomaru, sasuke, naruto... anyone can do it.
but it needs done so badly... no one in the naruto world has deserved to die more than madara, not even orochimaru.
also as a final note...
i think the byakugan will be one of the paths of the sage.
i imagine that will come into play near the end.
probably hinata will give naruto the final piece and he'll so6p all over madara and sasuke and kabutomara and all the haterz!!!
aight im done.
he can use izangi over and over again because he has a lab full of sharingans anytime he wants and he has senju and uchiha dna and the sharingan. he himself explained that those were the requirements for using izangi. and he even said that it closes the eye permanently...so was that the first time madara ever used izangi? hell no... he used it against sasukes ameratsu, i have a feeling he used it when the 4th hokage stabbed him in the heart, and also most likely he used it at the end of his battle with hashirama...any others?
so that means that the sharingan he had in before the rinnengan just went in the left eye, were the eyes of other uchiha that he had collected and like danzo he would use izangi and then just replace the "used up" eye with a new fresh one. he explained the the difference between danzo and himself was that his was better. probably that it lasts longer or was more effective. i don't believe that he meant that he could use it indefinitely(maybe he did though, maybe he could refresh it after a short period of time). and i would assume it was more effective izanagi because he unlike danzo was a true uchiha.
so that leads into my next point...
if he switches eyes out after using them, then they are no longer the eyes of his brother's EMS... so would he give up those abilities having lost those original eyes?
i dont believe so... i think its like a combining of dna...it enhances the person its in, and then with ANY sharingan they can "activate" their own sharingan powers...
so im starting to suspect that its the individual who holds the MS, EMS, etc. and
any uchiha eye would give them the same abilities they had before...
right? so even if sasuke uses izangi with itachi's eyes and they close, he could just replace it with another sharingan and it would still be EMS...
another example... if madara sacrificed an eye using izangi, he would replace it with another sharingan and still have his own EMS he gained from his brother years ago? or not? he keeps the right eye an EMS, and lets the left eye switch to regular MS so he can keep using izangi? i just dont know...
its sort of confusing the eye switching thing... i mean disgusting too... what the hell was he thinking when he created this ridiculous eye surgery bit?
excuse my ramblings, ive been thinking about this for some time now.
i would love some intellectual opinions on whats up with the eyes.
will sasuke seek senju dna so that he too can use izangi?
what will naruto do? will he go to save yamato?
also, i wonder how they will use yamato to make zetsu stronger.
i think i might be afraid to know...
kabutomaru is probably gonna do some twisted doctoring and merge zetsu with yamato. zetmato is next!!
damn i cant wait till someone ends madara's sick scheming once and for all.
i dont even really care who it is...kabutomaru, sasuke, naruto... anyone can do it.
but it needs done so badly... no one in the naruto world has deserved to die more than madara, not even orochimaru.
also as a final note...
i think the byakugan will be one of the paths of the sage.
i imagine that will come into play near the end.
probably hinata will give naruto the final piece and he'll so6p all over madara and sasuke and kabutomara and all the haterz!!!
aight im done.
yoshimitsu
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madara should transplant loads of sharingans, rinnegans, byakugans, and whatever else he may have found onto his head. most badass and most ugly shinobi.
silenceofthelambs
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Good chapter. Looks like the only reason Kabuto decided to go after the Eight and Nine-Tails in place of Madara was to capture Yamato; it's all leading to that eventual betrayal, except who will make the first move remains to be seen.
On the subject of Madara's Rinnegan, it will be interesting to see what new abilities that affords him, and whether he can use some of the techniques Nagato was able to perform (such as Rinne Tensei). Yamato doesn't stand a very large chance against Madara's Sharingan coercion, but he may escape if he gets lucky, which is very unlikely.
On the subject of Madara's Rinnegan, it will be interesting to see what new abilities that affords him, and whether he can use some of the techniques Nagato was able to perform (such as Rinne Tensei). Yamato doesn't stand a very large chance against Madara's Sharingan coercion, but he may escape if he gets lucky, which is very unlikely.
Perkele311
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Ok, So now we have the NarutoXSasuke Bromance going on. Now Kishi is drawing a dicks all over the place. WTF is up with that. Naruto is constantly staring at armadillo ****. There is too much **** in the manga this week. I would love to see some hot female nins. But no. Just dicks.
Oh yea and I didn't think Yamato would get captured.... but it happened. I am surprised. I guess Kakashi is going to have to come back to escort naruto around.
Oh yea and I didn't think Yamato would get captured.... but it happened. I am surprised. I guess Kakashi is going to have to come back to escort naruto around.
Yukimaru Yoshi
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pretty gud chapter, I would have like to see deidara fight a little bit longer against the tsuchikage. Tsuchikage and the hidden rock villiage have some pretty strong fighters/techniques. Next few chapters should be promising.
Here are somethings Ive took into consideration.
1. Judging from kabuto's and aoba's talk with each other, I believe the two were once on the same team due to the fact kabuto was suprised aoba was also on the island.
2. I knew madara wouldn't use both rinnegans therefore 1 of them has to be for sasuke's use to sync him with gedou mazou. Also, madara needs sasuke, but at the same time he must keep him from getting stronger then himself thats y he as in madara must also have the rinnegan to keep the balance between him and sasuke.
Kabuto is one smart mother f**ker if he can infuse all zetsu clones with yamato's dna he can literally produce 100,000+ zetsu clones that have the same ability as yamato/first hokage now thats bad ass
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Originally Posted by Perkele311
Ok, So now we have the NarutoXSasuke Bromance going on. Now Kishi is drawing a dicks all over the place. WTF is up with that. Naruto is constantly staring at armadillo ****. There is too much **** in the manga this week. I would love to see some hot female nins. But no. Just dicks.
Oh yea and I didn't think Yamato would get captured.... but it happened. I am surprised. I guess Kakashi is going to have to come back to escort naruto around.
lmao haha i didn' t even notice that dammm kishi wtf and when are we guna c sakura/ino/hinata showing sum more skin? aren't female ninjas suppose to be sexy at the same time? look at kurenai she was hott!
Here are somethings Ive took into consideration.
1. Judging from kabuto's and aoba's talk with each other, I believe the two were once on the same team due to the fact kabuto was suprised aoba was also on the island.
2. I knew madara wouldn't use both rinnegans therefore 1 of them has to be for sasuke's use to sync him with gedou mazou. Also, madara needs sasuke, but at the same time he must keep him from getting stronger then himself thats y he as in madara must also have the rinnegan to keep the balance between him and sasuke.
Kabuto is one smart mother f**ker if he can infuse all zetsu clones with yamato's dna he can literally produce 100,000+ zetsu clones that have the same ability as yamato/first hokage now thats bad ass
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Originally Posted by Perkele311
Ok, So now we have the NarutoXSasuke Bromance going on. Now Kishi is drawing a dicks all over the place. WTF is up with that. Naruto is constantly staring at armadillo ****. There is too much **** in the manga this week. I would love to see some hot female nins. But no. Just dicks.
Oh yea and I didn't think Yamato would get captured.... but it happened. I am surprised. I guess Kakashi is going to have to come back to escort naruto around.
lmao haha i didn' t even notice that dammm kishi wtf and when are we guna c sakura/ino/hinata showing sum more skin? aren't female ninjas suppose to be sexy at the same time? look at kurenai she was hott!
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Asakura Hao
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Great chapter totally unexpected....2 bad we have to wait for the next super epic battle....I like how the war is not two clearly drawn sides....kabuto is obviously in it for himself......I wonder how long before kabuto and madara betray each other....kishi is a good writer in that he always gives us the unexpected.....he probably has to reasearch how to fight an all out war...
great chapter.
I TOTALLY CALLED TOBI HAVING BOTH EYES!!! O.O
it's gonna be crazy when he fights i mean will he have complete control over all eye techniques from both sets? like ameterasu, tsukiyomi, izanagi, and the six paths of pain?
I TOTALLY CALLED TOBI HAVING BOTH EYES!!! O.O
it's gonna be crazy when he fights i mean will he have complete control over all eye techniques from both sets? like ameterasu, tsukiyomi, izanagi, and the six paths of pain?
Sennin Jinchuuriki
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Great chapter I think that Orochimaru's cells are starting to take control of Kabuto or so it looked like. Madara having the Sharingan and the Rinnegan is pretty bad ass but now its time Kishi starts to show Naruto being serious and also showing us Sasuke's EMS.
jabznaruto
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hi 5 for the chapter!!!
how i rated it..
1. unpredictability - 5
2. shrewdness - 5
3. fillers - 5
4. readability - 5
i liked Omningan's statements regarding the chapter..except for some points (read his first post).
i liked how he described kabuto...but still, i find kabuto weak.
he really is a pimp, yet full of intricacies..as Omningan said.
he is weak due to his own old self as kabuto...orochimaru's characteristics are what holding him hanging as a worthy ally for madara.
but..kishi is shrewd enough by putting "yamato/tenzo" as captive...nice..nice one
as a captive...kabuto knows Naruto does not abandon comrades...and surely Naruto will come after yamato to save him...presto...Naruto is in front of madara----hehe kishi is good..
would tenzo survive?? of course--this i believe..he is a good man.
can he survive madara?? of course--if the 1st hokage was good enough for sharingans, i bet yamato inherited the same traits... i have a gut feeling that wood element is resistant to ocular powers somehow like that of the ents of the woods against the witches with eye powers..in the old fairy tales.
yamato will be used as guinea pig for kabuto's experiments..to make zetsus stronger that is..
and madara...yeah...he's got the sharingans and the rinnegans...but again...ocular powers depend on the user...so, he is second only to sasuke ---for me
madara sure looked disturbing with the eyes...but hell naaaa...sasuke's better.
old stone peeps...yeah..good fillers
how i rated it..
1. unpredictability - 5
2. shrewdness - 5
3. fillers - 5
4. readability - 5
i liked Omningan's statements regarding the chapter..except for some points (read his first post).
i liked how he described kabuto...but still, i find kabuto weak.
he really is a pimp, yet full of intricacies..as Omningan said.
he is weak due to his own old self as kabuto...orochimaru's characteristics are what holding him hanging as a worthy ally for madara.
but..kishi is shrewd enough by putting "yamato/tenzo" as captive...nice..nice one
as a captive...kabuto knows Naruto does not abandon comrades...and surely Naruto will come after yamato to save him...presto...Naruto is in front of madara----hehe kishi is good..
would tenzo survive?? of course--this i believe..he is a good man.
can he survive madara?? of course--if the 1st hokage was good enough for sharingans, i bet yamato inherited the same traits... i have a gut feeling that wood element is resistant to ocular powers somehow like that of the ents of the woods against the witches with eye powers..in the old fairy tales.
yamato will be used as guinea pig for kabuto's experiments..to make zetsus stronger that is..
and madara...yeah...he's got the sharingans and the rinnegans...but again...ocular powers depend on the user...so, he is second only to sasuke ---for me
madara sure looked disturbing with the eyes...but hell naaaa...sasuke's better.
old stone peeps...yeah..good fillers
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Toby Uchiha
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I agree to you. Nothing happened besides of blabbling and so on. Well ok it was surprising that Kabuto captures Yamato. But nothing special at all. I would have liked to see a pretty fight or something..
Oh btw, i'm losing respect for Naruto. He's so dumb that it's almost ridiculous :flaw:
I hate Kishi more and more because next week's a break AGAIN. Why we have so many breaks ffs? Waiting 2 weeks for 15-17 pages...that's so annoying! :flaw::flaw:
it is clearly for the purpose of making it look like sharingan mixed with rinnegan. if you look closer those openings are sharingan tomeis. Since madara's sharingan has 3 tomeis it explain why there are three openings.
I realized when i said it. why madara has regular sharingan ? isn't suppose to be eternal sharingan ?? and another thing is his sharingan is always activated not like real uchihas but like other people who has made their sharingan transplanted.
I guess that tobi is not madara. he is a non uchiha who obtained sharingan somehow. Thus also explains the last coffin kabuto summoned. it was real madara.
It could mean for me at least one of two things
1.Orochimaru-sama is back and is in control of Kabuto
or
2. Yamato knows Kabuto, and there is some history we don't know of
Anyway, what an awesome episode, didn't see it coming at all O.O, I thought there was going to be some confrontation between the 8 tails and Akatsuki or something like that!!
Predictions, after today how could I have any? I dare not try to predict
Kishi-sama why no episode next week?!
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