well since you refuse to see the facts, lets go over them.
first, the issue of yamato being captured, and you having a hope that it is simply a clone that was captured. i disagree, and firmly believe that he was captured.
a.) kabuto got the jump on yamato, he even shocked yamato first, with his appearance and obvious connection with orochimaru
b.) yamato was in the middle of using the wood tech, he was retracting it, actually.
and kabuto literally slithered right up his arm, over the trap tech to get to him.
c.) yamato used his last second to push motoi out of the way, thinking that maybe he could at least save his buddy, if not himself.
d.) kabuto is a S class ninja, who would not fall for something like a clone tech, and also he was fast enough to surprise everyone there. they all were shocked as he nabbed yamato and suddenly bolted away. no one reacted. therefore we can assume it was a lightning fast snatch by kabuto.
e.) all the jounin that were with yamato were saying he was kidnapped and were chasing after kabuto, knowing that he captured yamato.
f.) motoi obviously has some form of chakra recognition like the sage mode and some of the other ninja have had, like karin has. and he said that he couldnt sense kabuto or yamato anymore, meaning he wasnt like hiding in a tree nearby.
i think that more than proves that the real yamato was captured and will be forced to confront whatever it is that madara and kabuto and zetsu have planned for him.
onto the question of tobi being madara....
this one i admit is slightly more difficult to prove, but i believe we can come to an agreement if we look at what we know.
a.) lets look at what weve been told about madara, he has quite a history that dates back to the near beginning of ninjadom. he was born an uchiha and was the strongest of the clan. we heard that he took his own brothers eyes in an effort to become even more powerful and to be able to see again. we heard that he fought hashirama for the dominion of the leaf and that madara "lost". this is what we are to understand of history told from many different characters at different times in the story. so madara DOES exist, or at least did at one point, agreed?
b.)we know that itachi believed that madara still exists, he told sasuke truthfully that he had help killing the uchiha clan that night, and that it was madara. we can assume that itachi knew the truth about tobi being madara. are you saying that itachi was wrong about madara? and that madara doesnt exist? that tobi was just some IMPOSTER uchiha playing like madara? i find that to be ridiculous. itachi was an AMAZING ninja, and he put himself right in the thick were it mattered the most, right next to all the worst people in the world. (orochimaru, madara, etc) only a real uchiha like itachi himself and even one who is older and wiser would have been a threat to itachi. so from itachis connection to the plot we have discerned that not only did madara exist for real, he still does.
c.) if madara exists and tobi is NOT madara, then who the hell is madara and where is he? is zetsu really madara? i doubt that. he doesnt have sharingan and he hasnt claimed to be madara, while tobi does have sharingan and HAS claimed to be madara... another reason we can assume that tobi is madara, there is no one else who COULD be madara, other than tobi.
d.) statues were built in the honor of madara and the 1st's fight at the waterfall where naruto and sasuke fought. now i recall an image of tobi sitting on top of "his" statue at the waterfall at some point chillin like a villian. which is a dead giveaway almost on its own that tobi is madara. i mean comon, he is sitting on himself and basking in the fact that he is still alive. thats pretty obvious.
e.) the 4th fought "tobi" when naruto was born. the 4th immediately knew that this ninja was more powerful than anyone known to the him. he guessed instantly and accurately that "tobi" was in actuality madara. madara even tried to be funny by being like "but legend says he is dead". obviously madara was shocked that he had been recognized so quickly by the 4th who had never even met him. which means that just on reputation alone, madara was identified by the 4th. another clue that tobi is madara.
f.) need i say again, that tobi has infact CLAIMED to be madara. in someones ear as they die no less. that speaks volumes. you dont lie to someone whos dying about who you are. he wanted her to know who killed her, and thats why he said it madly and proudly "i am uchiha madara!"
i could go on and cite more examples of tobi being madara for real, but if you are still in denial then you are choosing to not see the truth, because you dont want to, and if thats the case then no amount of talking on my half can change that.
yet if you really do want to know, you will see this as the evidence that speaks beyond the chance that tobi is not madara.
sasuke calls tobi madara.
kakashi called tobi madara.
itachi called tobi madara.
thats 3 other sharingan users , 2 of them with actual uchiha blood, that believe that tobi is madara, who the hell are you to disagree with them?
one of them is dead for gods sake, have some respect for the dead. LOL.
but seriously....
Hey, dont feel out of place if no one responds to your post. I feel the same way sometimes. It feels like theres not many ppl on this forum who can debate and bring strong arguments to the forum, but there are a few good guys on here who have pretty gud predictions and opinions. Getting back to Naruto...
I totally agree with you that madara is madara. He states it over and over
always using the first point of view witch is (I). As for his sharigan always
being activated, I feel like he must keep it on constantly due to the fact that
hes around dangerous ppl and sasuke is 1 of those ppl. If we remember,
when Itachi was in Akatsu he never deactivated his sharigan either...its just
the uchiha's way of staying alert at all times.
As for my prediction of the next chapter, I feel the Konoha ninja's who were lurking outside of madara's hideout will see yamato captured and send someone to get some anbu's from konoha to rescue him...Along with those anbu's, kekkaishi will also be there....Kekkaishi rescueing yamato seems more logical to me. Just a mild prediction
you are smart at least.
nicely predicted, i had nearly forgotten about the ninjas following kabuto. if he traveled all the way to the island and back, you would think that the ninjas following him were able to call in some backup. maybe they will make a play to save yamato! that would be awesome!
nice prediction bro! though, that probably wont happen... there are 100k zetsus at that location to stop them from saving him. LOL.
i cant wait to see.
Omningan,, nt sure who you're referring to, if by your last statement you believe that i think yamato escaped,, you are completely off base....... IMO Kabutoro is 100 times slicker than WTR greased snakeshit (WTR being wide temp. range),, and he's keeping the real Yamato on the side, he was completely familiar w/Oro's original DNA xperiments, and wants to further his knowledge with what Madara is doing w/Zetsu. We stil don't know his motives or goals.
I'm pretty sure that Zetsu is a physical maifestation of Yin/Yang chakras,, and with that size of an all Yin Zetsu army(xpect to expand to 5X current w/yamato DNA) he's gonna be able to drain armies of chakra, and who know what else (pretty sure NOONE< not even you> knows the full extent of Zetsu's abilities). 100% sure Kabutoro wants this 'wisdom'.
other than that, there's only a bunch of partial theories i'd rather not post...
anything else to whine about?
i wasnt targeting you directly and i wasnt whining, i was just saying.
i agree with pretty much everything you said about kabuto.
however, madara is so powerful that had that yamato been a clone, i think he wouldve instantly known. and that wouldve ruined the nice relationship that kabuto is trying to fake with madara. LOL.
its obviously not a clone though, kabuto wants the real yamato, and he wouldnt offer up a fake yamato to madara, like i said.
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