[Game] Toujo's Maid Wars Mafia #39

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So what I'm gathering is that rather than having some strong determination of her alignment you have sought fit that she should be eliminated either way based on her play.

Can you tell me what struck you as grossly negligent?
in the absence of an explanation i can accept, pretty much, yeah.

I don’t currently think it was grossly negligent, I think it’s likely she’s scum. The gross negligence comes in if she’s town, in which case unilaterally lynching Ekko when I don’t recall him even being in the convo with a justification of ‘lol, sleepy’ isn’t really good enough.
 

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in the absence of an explanation i can accept, pretty much, yeah.

I don’t currently think it was grossly negligent, I think it’s likely she’s scum. The gross negligence comes in if she’s town, in which case unilaterally lynching Ekko when I don’t recall him even being in the convo with a justification of ‘lol, sleepy’ isn’t really good enough.
And why do you think she's scummy?
 

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Alright Gramma, here's the problem I have with your position here.

Let the record state that D1 you town read Poison:

Town

You (For both mechanical reasons as well as Ive liked pretty much all of your posts)
(Probably) Ultra
(Probably) Michelle

Active Suspects

Alice

Rest are varying degrees of neutral. Would be fine with any of Ekko, Aether and Kekw getting got based on contribution to this phase, certainly over the likes of XTMF who is at least playing in some meaningful capacity.
You were also present for most of the day when Poison was deliberating, and said very little about it. The closest you came was this:

So my read on the situation is that Poison wants to chop XTMF, and is kind of waiting for affirmation before going ahead. Is that fair to say?
You made no comment/objection from this post on Poison, in which she states you as an influence in her vote:

So um if I am getting this right

- ultra read : Policy Lynch Ekko other things can be NAI
- gram read : Low posters are better yeet than those who is posting and actually playing.
- Michelle Read : scum reading for their postings.

- XTMF Read : Ekko doesn't have enough presence to be lynched.
So, it seems like you came to the conclusion Poison was scum retroactively. Which...is not necessarily bad, but it *is* rather easy to do, and you throw out your initial read rather easily without any hesitation. You had no problem with their play while it was happening. And your supposed confidence in this read does not come across very strongly in your posts, like it does with X.
 

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- Monarchy Lynch: This game will feature a Monarchy Lynch system. Before each Day Phase, through undefined means, a "King" will be nominated, which is a single player who controls the lynch. That King may then cast a vote for a player at any point during the Day Phase. Once they have done so, that player is lynched. For the purposes of the flavour, the "King" will be referred to as "Head Maid"

Is this one of them kingmaker games?
I nominate @Ekkologix
 

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So to sum things up Poison:

1. Initially said one of Alice and Soul had to be Wolf.
2. Said I was literally a wolf and that she was scum reading me.
3. Continuously asked for people's opinions and wanted someone to tell her how to vote.
4. Offered up me, Soul, and Ekko as all potential votes, despite continuing to say how bad Alice was.
5. Finally landed on Ekko and Poison even said she felt 'weird' voting Ekko because everyone was alright with it.

Conclusion, no fucking way is Poison town.
eh wth?
You rolled scum eh.,
 

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Poison came out with a list of suss I didn't like; me, Soul, and Alice. I didn't really think I had warranted enough presence to get any read at the time (same with Ekko). Poison has a history with Soul, so that was easy POE. And then Poison, the way they talked about Alice, made it seem like she sussed Alice the most, but was reluctant to really mean her vote in that direction. Instead, Poison somehow landed on me and Ekko as the two prime candidates. Poison was also looking for a way out of the blame with her vote because she kept asking people who to vote out and seemed to settle on Ekko because that was what most people were saying or alright with. Overall, I think Poison's POE was weak, her posts indicated stronger suss on other players as opposed to how she actually voted, and she was looking for a way to him and haw and not take the full force of killing a townie. Her thought process and posts in D1 looked to me like a scum not knowing how to handled being Head Maid right off the bat and not wanting to have to draw suss teammates.
Bad.
You gonna sus every king that accidentally kills a town?
Looks like we caught a live one here.
 
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