Lolwanderctus and ifnant are like saski and naroto...they can make good combo..
We only look good coz guys like yourself are holding back on us. Its clear you're one of the smarter guys here
Lolwanderctus and ifnant are like saski and naroto...they can make good combo..
I wouldn't consider the Hyugas as that since we know that they come from the Otsutsuki bloodline. They are also part human to boot.The Hyuga are likely a god ethereal race or species that obtained thier magical capabilities by the spiritual realm. It's a fact that spirit entities that exists in the spirit worlds exudes a spiritual physique that does not allow them to interact physically, and likely ghost phases each other due to that fact hence they implicitly require a physical earthly manifestation to substantially interact hence it's likely an ethereal manifestation of sorts has been physically manifested by them to acclimate such interactions. This is likely why the biblical character, Nimrod, and certain spiritual cults manifested earthly pyramid like and conical gargantuan exorbitantly towering over the skies structures to physically interact with them, hence it's likely that when spirits and ghosts broach the physical plane they absorb the natural energy around them and transfigure solidity to thier spirit ghost like physique, and interact subsequently and conccurently in accordance with thier pertinent power capabilities they manifest as gargantuan demonic entities like goliath or mini spirits like dwarfs, pixies, fairies etc cera.
Chakra is comprised of spiritual and physical energies
Basically what you said here but chakra is the spiritual energy that you speak of rather than being both.implying that it possesses the spiritual power of the spirit ghost plane but it tangentially requires physical energy to substantiate in the material realm
, however it's a fact that energy is elementally physical and possesses little to no technical attributes to broach the spirit ghost plane implying that it requires certain third party scientific applications like frequencies, resonance and the likes to interact implying that substantiating the spirit existence requires the tapping into specific mathematical equations that like a technology computer program programs the spiritual power to interact with that physical energy, and the associated physical power that it's intrinsically linked to ie., the spiritual power manifesting a way to interact with the physical energy, and the associated physical power of that physical energy
The Hyūga Clan likely exemplified this fact in a way that the Otsūtsūki's spirit manifested on earth and broached it's stratosphere and tangentially it's atmosphere and implicitly absorbed it's natural energy to manifest individually to gift thier god powers magically or likely possessed the clan entities that contains extremely talented genes, and assimilated with thier deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) to progressively amplify the Hyūga as they develop and exude thier genetic potentiality.
Key evidence of this lies in Otsūtsūki Momoshiki acclimating the ghost enchanting of Uzumaki Bolt to potentially gift him god like powers progressively
Yes because they exhibit characteristics of their affinities. Yin being the mind = eyes. Which means they are feminine, probably dark, imaginative, deals with intangibility and Yang is the body, the vice versa. Light, masculine, tangible, realistic, etc.Otsūtsūki Momoshiki is likely an example of a mild comparatively meek god spirit as signified by his sleek physicality, contrasted with Otsūtsūki Kinshiki who possessed gargantuan levels of physical power ie., a goliath like entity instance
I think that, to surmise, the Hyuga clan would acclaim plot relevance via the Otsūtsūki that significantly reflects thier and appearance attributes as they keep subconsciously tapping the sensory and spiritual information of the spirit realms by the extrapolated tower prototype that exudes frequency signals that mathematically match and facilitate the subsequent interaction.
we aren't about that consolidation.lol i like it when wonderctus dismantle every wall of text into a dizproved brick of pragarafs..
I'd agree on this, however I feel like it's not explicitly apparent on what the author personally believes regarding the whole genetic evolvement pertaining Hyūga and the Otsūtsūki hence I believe that creates significant exposition to logical theories as such since the probability of either being true is extremely likely.I wouldn't consider the Hyugas as that since we know that they come from the Otsutsuki bloodline. They are also part human to boot.
So maybe the Otsutsuki as they are Sages but then again they could just
Alright.Disagree there. At least in terms of Narutoverse. The concept of Yin and Yang was established plainly by saying that Yin is spiritual energy that can be given form and Yang is to breathe life into those form.
Ergo, Yin to Yang and Yang to Yin. Mind to create something from nothing. Body is to make something exist. Much like imagining a flame and conjuring a flame are 2 different things. 1st is imagining a concept and the 2nd one brings it into reality. Meaning Yin to Yang.
To clarify, chakra is elementally contained of spiritual and physical energy. I was basing my theory of that, and how the Otsūtsūki spiritually possess and manifest themselves in Hyuga associated genes and entities.Basically what you said here but chakra is the spiritual energy that you speak of rather than being both.
Alright but I think that logicality can be instilled in areas where the manga hasn't explicitly illustrated it's highly symbolic narrative. For instance spiritual energy doesn't really exist on it's own. It's literally energy + spiritual power mixed into the equation. The implication that exists here is that the only way these two things can apparently interact is when a specific catalyst of sorts exists to meadiate and the supposition that I've applied is that certain frequencies exist and they apparently tap into these and said frequencies are intrinsically linked to mathematical complex fractals that like a technology prototype re-program the issue and subsequently link the two together like a needle weaves a cloth to a silk thin thread. To clarify, I was actually extrapolating on the element spiritual and physical energy, not Yin or Yang Release that Hagoromo applied to produce bijū magically. I agree on the latter being the case.I was discussing this with someone previously about the powers of Hamura. How Hagoromo is the eyes that shows the way in the "dimensional hallway" and Hamura is the vessel that allows movement to traverse that hallway and into different rooms.
I also stated that perhaps that it is a concept that the Yin or imaginary is merely something that already exists in another room of this hallway but does not in the next. Therefore, to bring forth an imaginary to reality, one must traverse the hallway, go into one room and move or copy whatever exists in that room and bring it to the adjacent or simply to the other rooms.
Kind of like how the Rinnegan allows Sasuke to move in between dimensions.
I do believe that you were approaching that conclusion as well albeit in a very constructive perspective whereas mine has a tad bit more of a simple yet abstract approach.
Well I was thinking more on the lines of gene association. I mean, the Hyuga are spiritually and genetically linked to the Otsūtsūki by the fact that they displayed appearance and battle capacity similarities in magnificent proportions, and the fact that a Byakugan filled with genetic purity is a necessity to manufacture the Tenseigan. I think that they possessed ancestral connections to Otsūtsūki, and a fragment of thier biologically programmed genes + spirit mixed and sporadically disseminated in thier clan like a parasite organism during the numerical progression of it, as more and more offspring were being birthed.Yes, but what does having Momoshiki using Karma on Boruto have to do with the Hyuga? Are you implying that the Hyuga were a clan that had the same thing as transmigrant?
I would agree with you on that. But not necessarily the Hyuga Clan but rather their counterpart Otsutsuki clan on the Moon.
Alright but I'm not really convinced on Naruto not being a Senju fragmentally. I mean, Minato possessed a magnificent physique filled with gargantuan chakras and stamina that manifested the acquisition of Sage Mode that's implicitly alluded to be a Yang based ability and we know that the Senju inherited Hagoromo's gene key in terms of physical stamina, gargantuan chakras and life energy.Basing things off of parallels, we know what happened to the Asura transmigrant when the original clan was wiped off. It switched to the nearest and most compatible affinity and that is to say Naruto Uzumaki, not a Senju.
Yea I agree.Perhaps the same can be said with Hinata. With their counterpart clan wiped off, only the Hyugas remained to inherit this "spirit" to which Hinata was the designated vessel.
Hagoromo possessed the capacity to produce 9 bijū filled with life energies and unique personalities, each contained with a soul. I wouldn't put past him the capacity to reincarnate himself over and over again, in the transmigrants pertinent in this issue IMO hence I kind of agree with you on there. However I doubt Hamura possessed such magnificent god abilities as it's never displayed that he explicitly possessed such magnificent god abilities in canon, and even hypothetically it's implied that he was a significantly weaker variant of Hagoromo.I would say that there are different levels of reincarnation. From the transcendent beings' Karma to spiritual presence of the Rikudou Sennins' Hamura and Hagoromo to the transmigrant
You're implying that there are levels of power to this? I can see that being applicable in this case. Agreed on all fronts on the rest.Each degree of power will lose some sort of self. People who awakened the 3rd eye or have the Juubi can apply Karma to come back to life. People who have the Rinnegan/Tenseigan/RSSM/RSCM can exist as ghost and have someone trade their life to bring them back to life. People who have lesser doujutsus/bodymode will transfer their will and so on and so forth.
I see.Yes because they exhibit characteristics of their affinities. Yin being the mind = eyes. Which means they are feminine, probably dark, imaginative, deals with intangibility and Yang is the body, the vice versa. Light, masculine, tangible, realistic, etc.
I mean they were defiantly sidelined for apparently superior race entities like the Uchiha, Senju, and the Uzumaki IMO. The Otsutsuki broached the serialization in Bolt, and thier stock price skyrocketed significantly as far as relevancy goes. In the WA, they had the perfect opportunity to bypass their prior established power level but thier best feature was initiating a Kyūbi Chakra Mode charge on the Jūbi, and even Byakugo sans Sakura who possessed little to no relevance in the series prior displayed the physical power to reflect a Jūbi children brigade without visible duress. She additionally garnered extended screentime comparatively, and the author has yet to display a Hyuga who possesses as much limelight as the other premier characters in the series.I disagree that Hyuga has no plot relevance outside of the Otsutsuki as they were already a relevant clan way before the establishment of the Otsutsuki
Agreed.But to bring them up to par with the rest of the Otsutsukis, then I agree. They are in desperate need to be caught up or at the very least be showcased more of their known power being much more than what they are.
I see.Yes, the Hyuga powers need to be more focused on the spiritual aspect of things as they are the Yin in the Hamura's line(Yang), much like how Indra is the Yin in Hagoromo's line(Yin).
Yea they seem a bit too out in the dark rn. Key revelations pertaining them might explain some of thier relative clan based intricacies.I would also like to have the Hamura line be expanded. We know several things of them and we can gap the holes with the parallels of Hagoromo and his family.
Agreed, although to clarify the extrapolation proposed prior was intended to produce a logical explanation on how they would likely interact with the Otsutsuki gods to tap on thier prototype power gene information that resonates with thier physicality deoxyribonucleic acid information that manifests magical powers that they employ in combat as a result. I mean, otherwise it's tantamount to arguing that something can manifest out of nothing which seems highly improbable.Hagoromo holds the power to bring forth something from nothing and since Hamura is an antithesis of Hagoromo, the opposite is true for him: he brings something to nothing. We also know this to be true as the Hyugas are known for their dangerous use of their Byakugan and blocking all the chakra channels and have the ability to nullify chakra attacks to defend themselves.
I see. Do you believe that the Otsutsuki apparently birthed the Uzumaki or do they approach from Hagoromo's bloodline?This also further backs the idea of the Uzumaki being in his lineage as not only Toneri's feat is a copy of Naruto's but also the Uzumaki Clan's known powers of fuinjutsu. Their use of seals to take away something that exist is in line with Hamura's traits. There is also a noteable hint about his design that he is all about sealing due to his staff as well as the ropes on rocks and trees.
To add on what I've extrapolated prior, I think the bloodline supposition that's asserted has significant supplementation as it pertains to my original theory due to explicit fact that the soul perpetually reclines in the physique in the blood, as when gargantuan quantities of blood seeps out the physique the probability of a human being or any complex blood acquired living organism approaching it's death is rather likely, hence I'd like to assert that the Otsūtsūki's blood seeping and filling the Hyuga's blood vessels spiritually or an additional supplement to this theory is that they broach spiritually the Hyuga's physique and use thier blood or it's deoxyribonucleic acid to traverse through the gargantuan expanse engulfing each blood cell individually filling the Hyuga's physique subsequently.
Human beings scientifically possessed magical capabilities like sorcery, artifact enchantment, magicality, soothsayer-like traits, flying, ethereal beings associated interaction, superhuman physical power features, excellent intelligence that extrapolates difficult riddles with ease, in the ancient times, hence I wouldn't put past them the fact that they acquired such traits by spirit telecommunication, as I find it hard to believe that that they acquired such traits physically by extremely strenuous exercise of thier naturally limited talents and abilities.
The Hyuga likely operates the exact same as far as technicality goes.
The Otsutsuki exhibits genetic affinities to natural energy as displayed by Mitsuki who possessed Otsutsuki Toneri reminiscent Sage Mode, and Otsutsuki Toneri possessed Truth Seekers & 6PSM Senjutsu Mode that grants virtually limitless access to Six Paths Senjutsu Chakras that's required to physically fight of and explicitly interact with the Truth Seekers, so I kind of agree with you on there pertaining the fact that they possess genetic attributes that likely facilitates the manifestation of Sage Mode later on in their life.
To clarify, chakra is elementally contained of spiritual and physical energy. I was basing my theory of that, and how the Otsūtsūki spiritually possess and manifest themselves in Hyuga associated genes and entities.
Alright but I think that logicality can be instilled in areas where the manga hasn't explicitly illustrated it's highly symbolic narrative. For instance spiritual energy doesn't really exist on it's own. It's literally energy + spiritual power mixed into the equation. The implication that exists here is that the only way these two things can apparently interact is when a specific catalyst of sorts exists to meadiate and the supposition that I've applied is that certain frequencies exist and they apparently tap into these and said frequencies are intrinsically linked to mathematical complex fractals that like a technology prototype re-program the issue and subsequently link the two together like a needle weaves a cloth to a silk thin thread. To clarify, I was actually extrapolating on the element spiritual and physical energy, not Yin or Yang Release that Hagoromo applied to produce bijū magically. I agree on the latter being the case.
Alright. I think I agree with you on here. My premise is basically this except I'm extrapolating more on the lines of logicality broaching in-verse implications as Kishimoto didn't really do a great job extrapolating on these in complexity.
I agree on this. I believe I explained more in depth about this and my theory about Hamura's side previously, if not, I mentioned it above.Well I was thinking more on the lines of gene association. I mean, the Hyuga are spiritually and genetically linked to the Otsūtsūki by the fact that they displayed appearance and battle capacity similarities in magnificent proportions, and the fact that a Byakugan filled with genetic purity is a necessity to manufacture the Tenseigan. I think that they possessed ancestral connections to Otsūtsūki, and a fragment of thier biologically programmed genes + spirit mixed and sporadically disseminated in thier clan like a parasite organism during the numerical progression of it, as more and more offspring were being birthed.
Alright but I'm not really convinced on Naruto not being a Senju fragmentally. I mean, Minato possessed a magnificent physique filled with gargantuan chakras and stamina that manifested the acquisition of Sage Mode that's implicitly alluded to be a Yang based ability and we know that the Senju inherited Hagoromo's gene key in terms of physical stamina, gargantuan chakras and life energy.
Minato fragmentally could likely be a Senju descendant
Hagoromo possessed the capacity to produce 9 bijū filled with life energies and unique personalities, each contained with a soul. I wouldn't put past him the capacity to reincarnate himself over and over again, in the transmigrants pertinent in this issue IMO hence I kind of agree with you on there. However I doubt Hamura possessed such magnificent god abilities as it's never displayed that he explicitly possessed such magnificent god abilities in canon, and even hypothetically it's implied that he was a significantly weaker variant of Hagoromo.
You're implying that there are levels of power to this? I can see that being applicable in this case. Agreed on all fronts on the rest.
I agree and am happy for the expansion of Hyuga once more to bring them up to par with the other Otsutsuki. I was merely stating that they were sidelined and not so much as having no plot relevance. Although, I do understand what you may have bben implying that they lost their relevance due to being sidelined.I mean they were defiantly sidelined for apparently superior race entities like the Uchiha, Senju, and the Uzumaki IMO. The Otsutsuki broached the serialization in Bolt, and thier stock price skyrocketed significantly as far as relevancy goes. In the WA, they had the perfect opportunity to bypass their prior established power level but thier best feature was initiating a Kyūbi Chakra Mode charge on the Jūbi, and even Byakugo sans Sakura who possessed little to no relevance in the series prior displayed the physical power to reflect a Jūbi children brigade without visible duress. She additionally garnered extended screentime comparatively, and the author has yet to display a Hyuga who possesses as much limelight as the other premier characters in the series.
Naruto the Last explicitly disseminated thier newly budding manifested plot relevance into the sequel series where a fragment hyuga attained center stage ie., Bolt. Himawari bypassed Naruto's power level in a single move additionally.
Yes, that being Hamura's Yin. As established from before, I do believe that Yin deals in the spiritual/imaginative realm. Considering they are the doujutsu side of the family, they are more inclined to deal with chakra. However, Hamura is Yang dominant. This trait is translated to them, hence why they are more taijutsu focused, as you surmised.to clarify the extrapolation proposed prior was intended to produce a logical explanation on how they would likely interact with the Otsutsuki gods to tap on thier prototype power gene information that resonates with thier physicality deoxyribonucleic acid information that manifests magical powers that they employ in combat as a result.
otherwise it's tantamount to arguing that something can manifest out of nothing which seems highly improbable.
I see. Do you believe that the Otsutsuki apparently birthed the Uzumaki or do they approach from Hagoromo's bloodline?