[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[osieorb18]

I'll try to be around at some point in the next hour and a half but no promises. I'm still just fine with where my vote is placed.

 

[Houtarou]

You're both not defending yourself and you're putting your reads in the context of expecting to be eliminated. That's anti-town behaviour.

And your point being? You think my reads are just my lame attempt of defense regardless of my faction... you just denied my read as a whole and implying you will keep on denying them even if I flip town... also you should keep on denying them when Rej is the only obvious scum left... since I am sure your pride>my read

 

[Rej]

Watch the last vote count for Poison though

No I won't watch it, you will watch it, and quote and elaborate on why my voting behaviour shows that I scum with Poison. And then when you flip town, you did something really good probably. Again your approach is meh. If I were scum you generally would make it easy for me to counter your arguments, that is how unconstructive your approach is.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

I vote Al also @XTMF

 

[XTMF]

If I wanted to create a case to save myself I have would have gone for Toujo, not Rej.

I'm not giving up on the game by no means but my presence here right now is nothing more than a distraction so I think it's better for me to get lynch to end my nightmare and you guys can be more engaged next phase. Fair line of thinking.

That said I presenting my case on Rej because I am aware I will get lynch and it's only fair for me to offer what I can with best of abilities so yeah I have used no deception in these posts or even in my read list this phase. So you can take everything I said this phase with a grain of salt.

Which begs the question why you didn't?

 

[XTMF]

what about the other question about liking my PoE, whats your stance on that?


X, let me be frank why I want AL to be lynched right now, its because he hasnt been contributing on top of his scum play so far, its not only me, its been going since day one, as for Houtaro, I am not very confident about him, I know his posts are scummy but some of them felt legit as well, and the reason I want to lynch AL right now is because I think there is still time to get a clearer read on him which I am not seeing from AL, he's been the same since day one.

Present a case on him like I did. I don't have a read on Al rather then null because he's been under my radar for most of the game. But I feel like this isn't a strong enough reason to vote for Al and actually I think the opposite is true; there's more time to get a clearer view on Al. I spent an hour and a half combing through what were probably over 200 posts from Houtarou to create my case. I know this guy is scum and his defense this day phase is just him floundering and looking for a good counter wagon to him. Not to mention, I think if Hou flips scum, I have a decent understanding on where we might go next. I don't see that kind of route with Al.

 

[XTMF]

Is it just me or has Houtarou both argued that he's played too well to be a wolf and that he's played too badly to be a wolf?

Yes. There was a similar point like that in my case against him where he cited his experience as why he was good and then cited his lack of experience was he was making mistakes.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

Oki everyone I.m gonna go to sleep now.

 

[osieorb18]

You should vote me as well

Actually I want everyone to vote me just because it feels good having legendary lynch where everyone votes you

Also my case on Rej is solid so don't forget to check that next DP

I'm not giving up on the game by no means but my presence here right now is nothing more than a distraction so I think it's better for me to get lynch to end my nightmare and you guys can be more engaged next phase. Fair line of thinking.

So you can take everything I said this phase with a grain of salt.

You have giving wrong meaning to giving up

And your point being? You think my reads are just my lame attempt of defense regardless of my faction... you just denied my read as a whole and implying you will keep on denying them even if I flip town... also you should keep on denying them when Rej is the only obvious scum left... since I am sure your pride>my read

These posts are all from the same player... *Sigh*

 

[Houtarou]

Which begs the question why you didn't?

It is quite unbecoming for someone like me to actually desire some action on my town read just because I want to save myself and then seeing them flipping town and then endure all of this another day phase. Neither I have the energy nor the motivation to continue that and yes I do read Toujo town right now.

 

[XTMF]

Oki everyone I.m gonna go to sleep now.

You really should have voted Hou. If (when) he flips scum, you're a top partner candidate.

 

[Houtarou]

These posts are all from the same player... *Sigh*

I'm honestly admired by your determination to push for already solid going lynch

 

[Houtarou]

You really should have voted Hou. If (when) he flips scum, you're a top partner candidate.

I call this another form of begging that comes with Blackmailing

 

[XTMF]

It is quite unbecoming for someone like me to actually desire some action on my town read just because I want to save myself and then seeing them flipping town and then endure all of this another day phase. Neither I have the energy nor the motivation to continue that and yes I do read Toujo town right now.

Can you explain to me how you Ratchet went from beginning D3 in your scum POE to being a town read now, despite being mainly inactive this phase?

 

[XTMF]

I call this another form of begging that comes with Blackmailing

Here's another example of soft pushing. I guess you're so used to it this game you can't even stop yourself.

 

[osieorb18]

Jeez, I don't know why I'm humouring this, but...

@Houtarou You said you scumread Just_Red. In 20-30 words in the next 3-5 minutes, could you explain your scumread?

 

[Aether9]

That.s great @Aether thanks for response.
I mentioned the page to page bc i didn.t get why they were sussing u for it.
Though I understand now why bringing up things from dp1 posts looks strange.

About Seing someone as town bc they are active. It doesn.t feel like a good argument to me that.s all. So I don.t understand why an experienced player would bring that. I was kinda wondering if you were poketing Luke at that point.

I wasn.t throwing any shade, but the Poison thing which I felt to mention. Thanks for explaining.

And no you are right it doesn.t make you more suspicious than the others who have been inactive. It.js just that i added it to another element.

When you had that exchance with Ryu i felt like you were taken by suprised and bothered that someone noticed you this much x.xmaybe i.m wrong

So the slight inactivtiy combined with that ryu exchange plus the distance away from the EoD made me think you wanna lay low.
But otherwise no you don.t have any strong scum tells I can find.
is this conclusion clear enough now?


But i.m on board with voting Al. When is the day ending?

you mentioned the wrong person btw.

tbh a lot of Luk's activity doesnt make sense both from town and scum perspective, but if you look at them they feel honest which is why I am giving him the benefit of the doubt which I dont see scum playing like that, to me he looked confident so far with play like that.

as for Ryu, I wasnt taken by surprise, I was suspecting him at the same time I wanted to pressure him, until later his conversation with poison made me feel better about him but I wasnt there at the EoD so I cannot argue if you feel like I was laying low.

 

[osieorb18]

Note to self: Read @Aether9 during the next day phase while hiding their avatar since it may be negatively affecting your read on them.

 

[Houtarou]

Can you explain to me how you Ratchet went from beginning D3 in your scum POE to being a town read now, despite being mainly inactive this phase?

It was more or less just another of Toujo's interactions with poison though I don't know where this energy went, though Toujo feels like a player who likes to address every post regarding him and likes to make a mountain of a molehill. Explaining everything more than necessary, I call this trying to show others they're game solving. In all honesty, it's not that easy for me to explain why I think Toujo in a town but some of his posts feel very natural to me added by his interaction with poison.

If you want to ask me why I have this clear view of interaction between them, it's for simple reason I reread the starting 100 pages of this thread today

 

[Houtarou]

Here's another example of soft pushing. I guess you're so used to it this game you can't even stop yourself.

No that's blackmailing and trying to scare the players to make them vote for me even though they're trying to share their own opinion... you should be open to more than one opinion. A piece of friendly advice, not force them in this manner