[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

Rej

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Alright @Rej can you tell if there is any specific reason why you think he is/could be town?
"AL could be town, I flipflopped from paranoid thinking to not biased wish thinking, like giving him another DP chance to prove himself. "

I am not sure about that part, I have a hard time to interpretate him
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I am ready to change my mindset on him because I didn't like how I approached him earlier
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I rly would like to get more from AL, I expected more from him

Tho I want to reevaluate him, thats why the "benefit of doubt".
 

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If I wanted to create a case to save myself I have would have gone for Toujo, not Rej.

I'm not giving up on the game by no means but my presence here right now is nothing more than a distraction so I think it's better for me to get lynch to end my nightmare and you guys can be more engaged next phase. Fair line of thinking.

That said I presenting my case on Rej because I am aware I will get lynch and it's only fair for me to offer what I can with best of abilities so yeah I have used no deception in these posts or even in my read list this phase. So you can take everything I said this phase with a grain of salt.
No, my point is that after you flip, nobody's going to listen to you since you gave up. It shows poor judgement which means regardless of your alignment, your content is tainted.
 

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but you literally said PoE, not town read, whats with that?
PoE can be town too, you listed three townies three potential wolves

PoE is process of eliminating, so you give someone a TR when you for some reason exclude someones wolfyness

you have a town/scum PoE which is always better than having an only scum PoE or only town PoE

in some stages you only have a town PoE which is effective early on to find other townies
while the scum PoE becomes more valuable the longer the game goes

that's how I learned it. I see you take the middle way, is that correct? so yeah your scum PoE wasn't outragous but it was ok, with a solid/good town PoE and I think it was intersting to see Luku there

Luku wasn't active this DP or towards EoD atm, so he might have a slight benefit of doubt here? what do you think?
 

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I mean you had similar certainty on me Day 1. And why would Rej vote Poison over me?
The difference between your gameplay and Rej is like ice and fire. See the timing of his votes, see the pattern behind them, unlike you he never pushed for Poison lynch and ignored every interaction with her, he was also forcing RGK lynch and voted you first and only changed when he realized it will be poison who will get lynched
 

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Like, I don't think he's a bad player, the point of the game is not to call people's play bad, and there's been way more of that than there should have been (i.e. Any at all). But he's been contradicting himself left and right and had a defeatist tone throughout the entire day phase. As I mentioned earlier, it's been a self-fulfilling prophecy. His play is so scummy that he is going to get eliminated.
 

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The difference between your gameplay and Rej is like ice and fire. See the timing of his votes, see the pattern behind them, unlike you he never pushed for Poison lynch and ignored every interaction with her, he was also forcing RGK lynch and voted you first and only changed when he realized it will be poison who will get lynched
NO, this is false and you didn't pay attention to the details

Mich voted Toujo and it was 5 for Toujo and 4 for Poison, what I did was vote Poison to tie her on 5 so people don't derail the Poison Train

what I did was something no mafia would ever do, except this was a willed and coordinated bus, and now ask yourself if I would bus someone that hardcore

I had impact on the lynch
 
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No, my point is that after you flip, nobody's going to listen to you since you gave up. It shows poor judgement which means regardless of your alignment, your content is tainted.
Not really, you're trying to give this impression from my posts for god knows what reason. Sometimes you're just sure that no one going listens to you and there is more than just keep on fighting back, so rather than defending myself where it won't work I rather just laid out my scum read for players too look after my lynch.

You have giving wrong meaning to giving up
 

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NO, this is false and you didn't pay attention to the details

Mich voted Toujo and it was 5 for Toujo and 4 for Poison, what I did was vote Poison to tie her on 5 so people don't derail the Poison Train

what I did was something no mafia would ever do, except this was a willed and coordinated bus, and now ask yourself if I would bus someone that hardcore

I had impact on the lynch
Watch the last vote count for Poison though
 

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Not really, you're trying to give this impression from my posts for god knows what reason. Sometimes you're just sure that no one going listens to you and there is more than just keep on fighting back, so rather than defending myself where it won't work I rather just laid out my scum read for players too look after my lynch.

You have giving wrong meaning to giving up
You're both not defending yourself and you're putting your reads in the context of expecting to be eliminated. That's anti-town behaviour.
 

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I mean rationally, NGL, from your perspectives I could be an Indie or Town but I should not be mafia. Just when I try to look at myself from third perspective. Or am I mistaken on something? I shouldn't be a hot lynch and I don't mind being suspected, but Hout stretches the shit out of heaven.

Also the low interaction with Poison came due to timezones probably also Poison was quite inactive, I knew she was busy so I wanted to give her the benefit of D1, the only thing that made me lynch her was that I didn't trust the Toujo voters.
 
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