[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[Toujo]

All your unnecessary posts are meant to decieve, you are deliberately misleading town. Town would look at your posts and believe you are seriously invested in scum hunting because of your lengthy explanation, and most people are put of by such lengthy explanation and don't really read them which is something I believe you want, why? Because if you do read them you will notice a lot of over explanation of useless information.

Sigh. Last post on this for real this time. If this doesn't get through then I've no idea. I cannot
Red - Begging the Question fallacy. The conclusion, that my posts are designed to mislead town, is presented as one of the premises given for said conclusion. Clearly, the idea that the conclusion supports the conclusion is illogical.
Blue - Appeal to Logos. The conclusion made is that the Town at large will automatically make a conclusion, and this conclusion is not supported. Indeed, don't take my word for it. Simply reading the thread will establish that this by no means is how the Town has acted in this game. Forget not being supported, it is abjectly untrue. This is also a critique of my playstyle, which is useless for discerning my alignment.
Green - Loaded question fallacy. It makes an assumption on what I wanted, and then asks the question presuming that assumption to be true. The fact of the matter is, no I do not want that. If people don't want to read, in a text-based forum game centered around discussion and debate, then I can't help them. I would suggest that Mafia probably isn't the game for them.
Purple - Argumentum ad nauseam fallacy. It takes points that have already been addressed/conceded, and repackages them, to make them appear to be new information, and thus give the appearence of a stronger argument than what is actually presented. The quote below is where this was addressed/conceded.

Note - There have still been exactly 0 examples provided by Ryu to date, to support any of his claims.

And don't get me wrong, I do believe there are a few in there that are unnecessary. I am overly wordy at the worst of times, and I can think of one, my post referring to Ansatsuken's grammar usage, which is entirely outside of the scope of the game. In hindsight, I probably should have spoilered it, and made a note to say it could be skipped over.

Emphasis mine.

Any more fallacies you have that I need to point out, or are we done here Ryu?

 

[Toujo]

Heh, that's a pretty satisfying way of doing it. I think I might try and stick to that whever it seems like I'm going in circles.

 

[Toujo]

Blue - Appeal to Logos. The conclusion made is that the Town at large will automatically make a conclusion, and this conclusion is not supported. Indeed, don't take my word for it. Simply reading the thread will establish that this by no means is how the Town has acted in this game. Forget not being supported, it is abjectly untrue. This is also a critique of my playstyle, which is useless for discerning my alignment.

Minor clarification - The town at large will automatically make a specific conclusion (that I'm town because I make long posts). This is the conclusion that isn't supported.

 

[Kyte_]

I have been away for a while, due to... reasons. I apologize. I've had a few points in mind to put out, but allow me to skim through the few last pages first.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

impressions I got from you Luke.
I saw before in other game scum voting a lot in first day, and to me voting a lot feels like a technique to confuse and make the other people look scummy, but I looked at your posts again and you feel too much out of the box to actually be that. You're not throwing much dirt on them or anything.

Here is my explanation, let me know if I got it wrong here with the votes sequence or so.
First vote Poison

VoteLynch: Poison chan

Then Imp

Michelle’s actually posting alright I just really really hate Pg1.

VoteLynch: Imperfection

It felt you moved the vote fast- 1 hour difference I think

But then in all these posts you seem quite open, straightforward and comfortable to call out things that you don't like. A town indicative for me.

Spoiler: quotes here

I want to bury it. It’s useless and thread vomit. (Again this is hypocritical IK) also to answer your question, I have no side with this.

Yeah I’ll follow your reads blindly. DW.

I’ll do it but question. Is it common for people to solve themselves instead of others solving them instead where you’re from? Just usually people tend to solve others instead of get them to solve themselves.

Yo. I’m conf town. I have a lot of posts. Tyty.

You guys sound like you have a plan which strengths my reasons not to join.

Then another vote

VoteLynch: Houtarou

I don't know what you saw as slip in his text. Could you expand? or did you already? I'll be sure to check it out.

Your AL read sounds bullshitty af

VOTE ME

I didn't get why you would ask Imp to vote you? like who does that?! It felt highly unusual.

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And then yet another vote

VoteLynch: AL_sama

The time between you calling out Imp's read on Al and you yourself voting for Al is like 3 hours

It’s not that I SR you. I have no read on you. BUT. I TR Michelle and trust bee’s reads.

This could be sheeping maybe but then would it be so obvious? It does explain why you changed your view and you seem clear and open about it.
I would say your numerous votes are not alignment indicative a I think a scum would not be this chaotic.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Whatever LUK alignment he is being the diversion . Thats what the vibes im getting.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Explain me Alice please, what gives you the town lean for Toujo for that post?

To answer Michelle.

I think he genuinely wanted ro discover the connection between you and Luk.
And like what Ive told earlier ..he answered Directly without shading you nor Luk.
And Toujo is everywhere.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

I had no problem with that Imperfection is making effort, but wouldnt the others at least ask him if something they felt wrong? The way you questioned him didnt felt right with me which is why i pointed it out.

YOU mean me Questioning AL? If its about AL,
Al is questioning IMP's effort while he's not amking any read himself. Try to appreciatte other's effort sometimes.

 

[TheLukundo]

I honestly can’t keep up with Toujo’s posts. She posts too much in one message that I can’t keep up.

 

[TheLukundo]

Votes are an unlimited use ability. The only vote of mine you really need to look at is my final one where it’s voting to lynch.

 

[TheLukundo]

as scum we have self-conscious.

This line of Hout makes me think he slipped. I can see the town argument for it but I still dislike it.

 

[TheLukundo]

Also Tigerr, ho2 do you mean “chaotic”?

 

[TheLukundo]

Also Tigerr, ho2 do you mean “chaotic”?

How not ho2

 

[TheLukundo]

1- @Toujo
2- @Imperfection
3- @Just_Red
4- @Michelle
5- @Alice in Noodleland
6- @Tigerrr in the woods
7- @Rej
8- @Ryu Kishi
9- @Ansatsuken
10- @Houtarou
11- @TheLukundo
12 - @beeboat
13- @Aether9
14 - @AL_sama
15 @RedGloverKing
16 - @-PK-
17- @Poison chan
18- @Kyte_
19- @XDDDDD
20- @XTMF

 

[TheLukundo]

VoteLynch: Just_Red

 

[TheLukundo]

Possibly bad rear cause I’m basing it off when I was scum so less attention was paid however Red was a lot more proactive when they were town.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Lets see whats gonna happen. I want to tie all the top 3 lynch candidates to see the movement of the votes.


VoteLynch:Lukundo



I might switch to Poison.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Toujo if you're a townie hope SK gave you a BV.

 

[TheLukundo]

Toujo if you're a townie hope SK gave you a BV.

You claiming to kill them tonight?

 

[TheLukundo]

Lets see whats gonna happen. I want to tie all the top 3 lynch candidates to see the movement of the votes.


VoteLynch:Lukundo



I might switch to Poison.

I’m a top 3 lynch candidate?