[Game] Chernobyl: The Nuclear Power Plant Game Thread#26

[Alice in Noodleland]

What time is EOD?

 

[Hammock]

What time is EOD?

11pm EST i think

 

[Michelle]

Also about SK's play i dont think he would pull the same thing in a game, especially if the games are consecutive >_>

he didn't do it until i prodded him. He failed to keep his composure.
Read and judge. That's why it was so hard for me to be sure.

He says my unvote on Elmage looks wolfy. Like he said my unvote on Rej is wolfy. Both things are never wolfy. Reevaluating and giving space to a player are towniest things possible.

He takes advantage of his talent of putting nice words one after another but in fact he wanted again to drag me into a bad convo like last time.
He saw he failed in that attempt so he made a case. I didn't answer at the case because is fabricated. I know i am villager and so his case is not real.

 

[Chief_Alpha]

2 Hours from now. @Alice in Noodleland

 

[Hammock]

11pm EST i think

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Post automatically merged: May 18, 2020

11pm EST i think

AM*

 

[Michelle]

I think Eod is around 2 hours from now on

 

[Hammock]

he didn't do it until i prodded him. He failed to keep his composure.
Read and judge. That's why it was so hard for me to be sure.

He says my unvote on Elmage looks wolfy. Like he said my unvote on Rej is wolfy. Both things are never wolfy. Reevaluating and giving space to a player are towniest things possible.

He takes advantage of his talent of putting nice words one after another but in fact he wanted again to drag me into a bad convo like last time.
He saw he failed in that attempt so he made a case. I didn't answer at the case because is fabricated. I know i am villager and so his case is not real.

Okay i'm going to back and reread it again, to evaluate it for better

 

[Michelle]

Okay i'm going to back and reread it again, to evaluate it for better

Thanks.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Okay i will be back ...

 

[Chief_Alpha]

ANNOUNCEMENT

@Just_Red didn't post once this DP. If she doesn't fulfill the minimum required post number by the end of the day, she'll be subbed out.

 

[Rej]

@Just_Red pls shoot Elmage if he is not lynched this DP. Roleblocker is full anti town in this setup.

Else go this order:
Unclaimed:
-Michelle
-FTF
-SoulKiller

 

[Rej]

@Rej Can't quote you now because I'm ISOing, but I also didn't say you said he was jailed, I said you thought he was jailed, which is obvious from your post

Also, anybody can claim now, it doesn't mean anything, roles are random, so he could be a town JOAT or a mafia JOAT, so there's no reason to say he claimed town JOAT. He claimed JOAT. Period. TSQ claimed Vengeful, and some seemed to think maybe he's vengeful town, that's why I brought it up. His claim don't mind he's mafia or town

Also with respect to Ryu, I said there's no way to confirm he did/didn't use his abilities, also, were you notified you were role blocked or did you action just failed?

Quote my posts, I just told him its possible 3 people are rb due to jailor, I didnt say more...

 

[Hammock]

@Michelle i'm standing by my vote, i dont like the interactions between Drago and you after reading that as well, but I understand you pov at SK tho. just isn't enough to convince.

Drago claimed cop before me as well. You are going here trying to frame anyone you could but then again it might be because you are paranoid townie >_>

 

[Hammock]

@Rej you here?

 

[Elmage G Ace]

I can start a counter for science to see where this goes, and also because Elmage was extremely esitant in his vote for TSQ

Vote lynch Elmage G Ace

I like this vote on me, here she stated the reason, and it's valid, of course I explained my reason later

I don't know how else to explain it, so I'll just leave it here, it may not make sense now, but it might become useful later

Spoiler

I feel like the TSQ vs SK interaction was scripted. I could be wrong, hence, why I'm not going down that route yet

To further explain what I meant here, I think TSQ wanted to get lynched, and he can then choose the town players from his list to kill

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Okay, I honestly did not expect to have 2 deaths during NP. Having ansa die like that pretty much nulls oracle usefulness completely. I have a feeling people jumped into TSQ wagon later on to secure his lynch, I would say atleast 1 mafia member is among those players. Also, something really been bothering me but I will keep it to myself at the moment.

I feel like if mafia indeed decided to sacrifice TSQ then mafia did so later on during DP1 when TSQ claimed mafia vengful and tried spinning the narrative about luk being fake oracle.

Gonna place my vote on one of my suspects for now between hammock and just_red. But something been really rubbing me the wrong way about just_red.

VoteLynch: Just_Red

I didn't particularly hate this post, but I have a few issues with it

@firstbolded: I like this take, would have been nice if Ansa was revealed at DP, but I don't agree, we had the info and we could use that info while re-reading

I also find it suspicious that he didn't particularly push his sus

Good to know that you ain't giving yourself any townie points for jumping his wagon last second like that. But something been bothering me about your posts regarding TSQ in previous DP1. I thought you would def catch on how scummy TSQ was during my interaction with him. He checked all the marks. He twisted words, he lied and gave false narrative. Very similar to previous game when he did it to just_red and you out of all people I thought would catch on to it. But you did not, which i find really weird. Usually you would be one of the first people to point out such BS.

This post made me begin to suspect SK, because he mentioned me during their interaction, and I gave my response, I did notice TSQs behavior, but it was obvious, he played exactly as he did before, which was I was reluctant, because I sensed a fowl play, why would he do exactly the same thing? He doesn't strike me as dumb, and coupled with the fact mention made me think maybe they both planned it. I'm not so sure now though, but I'm certain TSQ was always going to get himself lynched

Exactly, it was obvious. It wasn't so obvious last time, and you even mention me during that interaction knowing I'd notice it, and it seems like they wanted us to Lynch him. Hesitation is one sign of town play, no town play can say he knew for sure the alignment of TSQ. I found it strange then, that's why I didn't press on it, and it's even more strange now.

I only voted him because I thought it was still a tie with Red, and I'd prefer him gone over Red. No offense to him

Here I have my reasons for voting TSQ late, and I think Michelle saw this and decided to unvote

I'm not sure I'm willing to reveal my role yet until I think it's necessary

Please quote me where he claimed mafia vengeful, he claimed town vengeful and always said Luke is mafia and he claimed especially because he's town or something like this

Sir, i don't like this reevaluation. You didn't care about my AI day 1 enough to talk to me.

Mafia decided to sacrifice TSQ early in day phase where he said scumchat thanks Luke for claiming Oracle. If needed i can search the post.

you were not present at Eod if memory serves me right

No, Luke gave us mafia and scum strategy He was extremely useful imo.

This post is what I saw and town read Michelle at the point, especially the bold-italic, TSQ hilariously thanked Luk, and I feel that was when their plan kicked off. It's better to kill Oracle early, less chance of picking scum

Unvote

I don't like this at all. You talk like you knew for a fact when mafia decided to sacrifice TSQ

I don't like this either, because her post was a perfectly logical one, but he didn't like it, perhaps because it may implicate him. Her reasoning is even better than SKs who implied they decided to sacrifice him when he claimed vengeful. But no matter, his response to this post was UNNECESSARY Pat attention to the word, it'll still be used

This is false, i see you null to scummish no matter your read on me. I said i dislike the read because the reason you put me back in nulls is not solid.

You know little about me. You talking about my stuborness like that is a guess.

I made a logical assumption. You made another one and i said my oppinion. You dislike it because i noticed it?

My thoughts exactly! He disliked her opinion, and she was the only person who stated it, I thought about it but I wanted to wait a bit

not much changed
@Michelle I sideline this question
I will ISO Elmage and TSQ later
inactives RGK, SK and FTF are on my hitlist, I am sure atleast one scum is in that bracket

@Rej did you ISO my and TSQ, also you earlier made reference to my interactions with TSQ, meanwhile I had none with him, I don't trust you, and I think you may be scum

Read it again Michelle, you stated it like you knew for a fact that mafia decided to sacrifice TSQ early. You really need to start working on how you paraphrase your words if you are indeed townie.

I think she just stated her thoughts, and if you have problem with how she paraphrase her words, it just goes to show you're also a person careful with yours, I guess this is just your interpretation

I really don't like this at all, you shading me but not stating the reasons. The fact that you say Michelle noticed some of them is even more alarming because Michelle AI/reads been horrible this game.

Feels like you saving my mislynch opportunity for later whenever you feel like it.

This is the next Bingo for me, I made a post that was not related to him, and I didn't reveal what I said Michelle noticed, but he said I shaded him, how is that possible? This his post was, now hear me out .... UNNECESSARY

And it meant he was anticipating an attack, when he wasn't even my target

This reply is curious. I didn't state what @Michelle noticed that I did, I also never said what she noticed was about you, this reply was totally unnecessary, and I was not referring to her reads, but rather her observation, there's a difference, and I'd say she's better than most at observation

Here's my reply to him

I'd also like like to point out that it's not the first time you've been unnecessarily reactive to a post, it doesn't mean anything now, but that could mean something later, so I'm stating it for the record

Now, I put this post here to remind myself that he did the same thing with @Dragomir he reacted to his posts when Drago said he was 'bad' Drago didn't give any reason, but his reaction was... You guessed it Unnecessary!

Then you need to start elaborating while i catch up. You stated that and i quote "she noticed some of the odd things I did (but I didn't want to reveal yet)" this to me sounds like shading.

You are throwing mud my way but not really elaborating on it. You not stating what she noticed or what you noticed is called shading. I always thought of you as a straight forward person.

Can someone please explain in context how my posts was shading him? Guilty conscience?

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Okay hold the **** up. I was under the impression that I was role blocked here. But two people just claimed that they were role blocked as well. What the **** is going on here.

This isn't a bad post, I just didn't like it because he said he was 'under the impression' and that's up for interpretation, because he can later say he wasn't. This was carefully worded

I am always reactive to posts when they rub me a wrong way. Nothing new, I see something weird i call it out.

Even in your quote, there's no mention of Soulkiller, there, and to be honest, it wasn't about you.

I've never revealed everything I've noticed in a game, and I don't think its wise to do so, when it's relevant I will reveal it, sometimes what I notice might end up being nothing, so I need sufficient relevant information before I make my case, else it would backfire. If mafia don't know what nature of case I'm building, they won't know how to defend it till the case is sufficient. I've always played this way

Yes, but the post in question wasn't about you at all, it was about a different player I was ISOing, and perhaps if you read carefully you'd know who it is, so your reaction was unnecessary, I didn't mention you, I didn't mention anyone, yet your reaction to it implied I was referring to you, when that was not the case

His reactions this game has been hella scummy

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It was in the same post where you stated that you town read Michelle and in my head i thought it had something to do with what Michelle posted regarding me since she did it recently around the time you made that post which in my head kind of made a connection in my head because i can't for the life of me see how she is being townie. But i will take your word for it and just put it aside like a misunderstanding in my part.

I also don't like this, but I do sense an err of honesty here

I want to elaborate on my role but i don't feel comfortable doing so. I thought to myself that maybe i was role blocked or maybe some another scenario played out. But two people just claimed to be role blocked make me believe that another scenario might of possibly played out.

Thinking more about it, I am entitled to believe another scenario played out and i was not role blocked. Unless someone watched me and can point out if someone indeed targeted me.

See? He now says he wasn't role blocked. So what happened?

Quite possibly might be the case.







OMG I am lowkey praying glover flips scum here otherwise we are fucked.

Not sure if elmage asked that question expecting or hoping glover to slip and make a mistake that causes him to be mod killed. Take advantage of the player since he is new, god damn it.

I don't understand how someone with clear intentions would read my interactions with RGK and come up with this. I think he was low key trying to shade me without calling me out

@SoulKiller you stating i am stubborn makes wrong judgements in other people, you assumed a thing that is not true.
Last game my error was my focus on you but i was wrong in doing so and lost the whole picture and town lost the game because i didn't have time to look at someone else.
To say I am stubborn and period means you think i can't learn from a mistake i did and i can't get out from my tunnel by my own when someone else is makinh me wary of my mistake. Drago's post was the kind of post who sounded genuine and made me think what if i'm wrong. Who thinks i am linked in any way with Drago must consider me an idiot. If i knew Rej's AI i would drop the tunnel at other's voice not at the player's who i have a link with.
Ryu played with Rej alot more than us and in his last game he wolfed with Rej. I want to believe in the next game he still knows his former wolf mate's scum play. If anything, sheeping his read for today only helps town if is a right read.
You jump at me for various wromg reasons and my answer at others except above is
If you are town you are not reading the essence, you are reading shallow and go for a quick conclusion. Don't do this irl.

Another good point here

I didn't want this to be too long, I might post the other parts of I feel I have to,

But I'd rather lynch SK than Michelle this game

 

[Michelle]

Long story.
1. If SK is villager he never tunnels one player ignoring everyone else.

@Elmage G Ace give me one reason why i should not vote Michelle? since apparently somehow you town read her. How can you look at her play and justify it as townie? i am genuinely curious. Maybe i am missing something here.

2. Wolfy approach, he asks other player to have less responsivity when i flip villager if game continues.
In the same time the tone in the post is irritated. Town is not irritated. Town knows his value and don't shade like this.

Ah that's unfortunate you did not read her latest interaction and my iso of her earlier this DP?

I will try and summarize it for you then.

>She comes out and asks for people to discuss and solve the game with her
>I decide to give her the benefit of doubt and discuss with her
>She omgus me
>When i ask her to elaborate one of her posts she refused
>she omgus more
>she said she won't reply to my wallie
>i figured that it's useless to talk to her any further and decide to not ignore her
>she flips out and state i am scum for doing so.
>her posts in previous dp is shaped in a way it looks 100% facts like she knows that her "logic" is fact
>she hates my reason putting her in null read because i found her posts genuine and she hates that i found her posts genuine
>she then accuse me of not solving the game at all
>accuses me of being aggressive/defensive
>paint me scum because i posted a gif(lol on this one)
>she rambles alot about solving the game but what did she do so far ? i don't see her solving anything

3. here is a pile of lies, he makes a summary instead solving exactly like in the previous game. I bolded the lies.
Also is the green text a crime??

Oh, then you need to catch up because i am thinking of voting Michelle.

Me not moving my vote from red is because one.

> Vig is easy to fake claim
> red gave me bad vibes last dp
>she promised to be more active
>nothing from her so far
>if she is indeed vig and she mis shoot then gg town
>if she is not vig and we let her alive then gg town.

4. Red forgot about the game like she usually did when she was villager. If anything this makes me think she is villager once more But for SK she have to be lynched.
You don't care anyway who villager is killed isn't it SK?

Ah sorry @bold i meant this current DP not previous dp lol.

Another thing to keep in mind, more suspicious stuff about her.

>last dp she said i have everyone scummy, when i only had 3 people on my scum lean.
>what's more funny she bolded my reads expecting to be right lmao. I am surprised she did not realize how wrong she was after she bolded my reads
>she appeared to be very concerned about my thoughts about her. She will state otherwise but her actions speak differently lol.

5. SK had just 2 town reads. Zero town leans. Nulls plus scums = too many players to paint scum at whim.
Lmao is what scum says when they are pleased to lie. Of course i am right just i said it in other words.
I don't give 2 cents on SKs oppinion, that's why i provoked him about his change on null reads of today for me.
My actions speak what i said.

Another stuff about Michelle

>she stated that she will trust ryu reads and due to it she will trust that rej is townie
>if she trust ryu reads so much then shouldn't she follow the same logic as with rej and town clear me as well?
>she actually voted for ryu and thought he was scummy lol but now she trusts his reads?

6. How to town clear you when Ryu don't know you? Idrc what read has Ryu for you. I trusted his reads on the players he knows.
Villagers are always wrong because they don't know AIs.
You pose in accurate reader after bussing your teammate? Really?

More stuff about Michelle

>She votes Elmage this DP
>She unvotes Elmage because elmage stated he is unsure about revealing his role at that specific time during DP. Why would a townie remove their vote off of that? scum is more likely to remove vote for such reasons.

7. I unvoted Elmage because i felt his thoughts are pure. You trying to paint it as wolfy shows your scum mindset.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

@Rej claim please, we have to catch scum now

 

[Hammock]

Guys there's 1 hour ish left please come and play if you could

 

[Rej]

@Rej Can't quote you now because I'm ISOing, but I also didn't say you said he was jailed, I said you thought he was jailed, which is obvious from your post

Also, anybody can claim now, it doesn't mean anything, roles are random, so he could be a town JOAT or a mafia JOAT, so there's no reason to say he claimed town JOAT. He claimed JOAT. Period. TSQ claimed Vengeful, and some seemed to think maybe he's vengeful town, that's why I brought it up. His claim don't mind he's mafia or town

Also with respect to Ryu, I said there's no way to confirm he did/didn't use his abilities, also, were you notified you were role blocked or did you action just failed?

I got notified about the rb. And now get lynched.

Also @Rej what do you mean TSQ vs Elmage? I never had any interaction with him in this game, or were you referring to last game?

Oh there was no TSQ vs Elmage?
Yeah my time management this DP.

claims
The Luk - Oracle
Hammock - Cop
RGK - Cop
Michelle - ???
FTF - ???
Elmage - RB
Ryu - Jailer
Ansa - Town Blocker
Alice - Tracker?
Rej - ???
TSQ - Vengeful scum
SK - JOAT
Dragomir - ???
Just_Red - vig

There is no reason to withdraw your claim anymore, I don't think Dragomir is RB, so who's the RB?
If Rej claims he was role blocked, then it'd either Michelle, or FTF, or Rej is the mafia Roleblocker lying he was rol blocked, since there have been three people who said/implied they were role blocked, and I know for sure Drago was, because I blocked him, I know for sure there is another RB here, it wasn't discarded

@Michelle @ForgotToFlush @Rej @Dragomir you guys need to claim now, no point waiting till next DP, the game could be over by then

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[Hammock]

@Elmage G Ace you know if we miss this lynch we are done for right, i still think it's michelle
I don't think Scum Sk plays like that