[VS] MS Itachi vs MS Sasuke

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Master Omi

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I’m asking you to elaborate on what portion(s) of my previous responses didn’t “answer your question.”
None of it addressed what I was saying, in that quote. This is what I said:
Considering what Kakashi said he couldn't be talking about just them. He said "it has nothing to do with whether you can defeat genjutsu or not. " The wording indicates he meant in general.

The underlined is important.
 

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None of it addressed what I was saying, in that quote. This is what I said:
The underlined is important.
Refer to this here. Get your post count up with someone else.

LMFAO no, your problem is that you don’t want to accept that Kakashi was speaking about the present party. That is evident by the sequential comments (excluding mine because you ignored mine initially lol):


So try to imagine that if Sasuke’d been there, Kakashi’s words would’ve been directed to the others and he would’ve explained the MS bit for Sasuke. Outside of that scenario the knowledge doesn’t help.
 

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Your not taking into account Kakashi's word choice. If Kakashi simply meant the partner method doesn't work, he could say this: "If it catches you, It has you instantly, so the partner method doesn't work", but he didn't state that, he made a sweeping statement about how it doesn't matter whether you can defeat genjutsu, due to time dilation.

Itachi lied to Kakashi initially about Tsukuyomi being able to be beaten by a 3 tomoe.
The entire subject at that point was the 2 on 1 being brought up by chiyo to counter genjutsu so kakashi didn't need to mention it again. If what you are saying is true then he would have said "Not even the sharingan can defeat his genjutsu" or something along those lines

Sasuke broke it with 3t so it wasn't a lie
 

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The entire subject at that point was the 2 on 1 being brought up by chiyo to counter genjutsu so kakashi didn't need to mention it again. If what you are saying is true then he would have said "Not even the sharingan can defeat his genjutsu" or something along those lines

Sasuke broke it with 3t so it wasn't a lie
Kakashi's word choice doesn't support your argument. Just because Kakashi was talking to his team, doesn't mean he was just talking about his team. He made a sweeping statement so he didn't need to say that not even the sharingan can defeat Tsukuyomi.
 
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We're going to be dead ass serious right now..MS sasuke would f uck him up. Itachi was no longer a verses contender to sasuke the moment sasuke obtained and developed his MS.
 

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Kakashi's word choice doesn't support your argument. Just because Kakashi was talking to his team, doesn't mean he was just talking about his team. He made a sweeping statement so he didn't need to say that not even the sharingan can defeat Tsukuyomi.
His statement does not override itachi's statements on his own technique:
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so please stop talking out your ass.
 

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His statement does not override itachi's statements on his own technique:
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so please stop talking out your ass.
Wasn't this statement about sharingan (NOT MS), its pretty clear a normal sharingan will fail to break out of tsukoyomi but MS will.
 

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What about Illusions?

Karin believed MS Sasuke can be caught in an illusion. Not to mention the 'did saauke break Tsukiyomi' debate is still ongoing.
Sasuke can be caught in illusions, but he will instantly know it and break out, just like e did when he fought Itachi with 3 tomoe...
Illusion aren't working on MS Sasuke
 

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Sasuke can be caught in illusions, but he will instantly know it and break out, just like e did when he fought Itachi with 3 tomoe...
Illusion aren't working on MS Sasuke
There are reasons to suggest he didn't break it imo.

Itachi is also fast. If he put's him in a Genjutsu, he immediately seal's him in the Totsuka Jar. Susanoo is chakra it sealed Edo Tensei's Unlimited Chakra in Nagato.
 

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There are reasons to suggest he didn't break it imo.

Itachi is also fast. If he put's him in a Genjutsu, he immediately seal's him in the Totsuka Jar. Susanoo is chakra it sealed Edo Tensei's Unlimited Chakra in Nagato.
Edo Tensei isn’t chakra. It’s a jutsu that allows the pawn in the jutsu to have unlimited chakra.
 

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It does make a difference who he said it to lol. Why would you contribute extra information if it’s not going to help the situation at all? Again, you’re reaching and it isn’t going anywhere. No contradiction here whatsoever.
Not only has that happened before (people giving extra information), but this isn't "extra" information. What Kakashi said let's them know exactly what their up against, of course it helps the situation.
 
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