What if Itachi actually wander Sasukes eyes like he said?

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Apparently only Indra riencarnates can obtain the EMS. Other Uchiha tried and failed.


Not really, and before you bring me some of Kishi's quotes (saying that the manga would've probably ended if he didn't add something interesting to it soon), that was basically what he "thought" would've happened, nobody knows how popular Naruto would've turned out in the end without Sasuke, it might have been far more popular, who knows really? + characters like Kakashi and Gaara were going to save it eventually, so.... u-u


You couldn't be anymore wrong. Only deluded trolls would think such a thing, which fits given who you are. :lol




Actually it's been confirmed that Sasuke the character had nothing to do with the series survival early on. It was rivalry. Switch Sasuke with someone like Neji or Gaara and boom, series continues to be successful. Probably even more so.

Still, Vulpini and Salamander are known trolls so I wouldn't be surprised that they actually believe the nonsense they type.



Terrible opinion.



This is better.



Agreed. :sigar:




It most definitely did. As long as there was rivalry. Sasuke didn't matter.

OT : As others have said Itachi could've killed him early on and taken his eyes, though he'd probably still succumb to his illness.


Naruto originally wasn't even about ninja and became one because of Sasuke.

"Q1: ”I’ve always wondered where you began to come up with the concept of ‘Naruto’ as a story and thought that that’s what yoou’d write about.”A: Apparently he started out wanting to write a story about an old guy who owns a ramen shop and a young boy comes by, or something uninteresting like that. Other things also got mixed in with that like a story which was supposed to be really spectacular and it was about straightening up their lives and other emotive plots… He showed that to his publishers but they told him the story is way too far from what they want, and Kobayashi agrees that it doesn’t have any elements befitting a weekly Shounen Jump series. He started to research other shounen series (especially Akira Toriyama, who he was a big fan of). In the end the name ‘Naruto’ came from this failed story attempt, as well as the obvious influences that made it into the actual series. Then he made a story not about ninjas but about youkai (demons), where the main character was a fox who shape-shifted into a human. This story changed again so he made the fox demon into a human and redrew the whole thing, and submitted that version"



"So why ninja in the first place? Kishimoto notes the inspiration of Sasuke, an anime series based on the manga created by Shirato Sanpei. But what really inspired him as a manga artist, he says, was Toriyama Akira’s Dragon Ball."



Naruto was heavily inspired by classic ninja manga, which like Naruto, are heavily inspired by Japanese folklore.

For example there's "Sasuke" & "Kamui", two 1960s manga by Sanpei Shirato. An anime called, "Manga Sarutobi Sasuke", aired on Tv during Kishimoto's childhood. The Sasuke in that series even has a female companion named Sakura.

Kamui is about a rogue ninja who leaves his village and is hunted by his own clan...Sasuke is a story about a boy ninja whose clan is wiped out by another ninja clan who murder his mother who he then fights against seeking vengeance...sound familiar?

Scroll down to "notable works".






A good example of folklore would be, "Tale of the Gallant Jiraiya”, in which Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Tsunade, & even the Sharingan originally appeared. Jiraiya and Tsunade's clans were slain due to being accused of planning a Coup de etat...sound familiar?





There's different versions of the story. Jiraiya had the Sharingan in one of them. Skip down to "Q4", and read the second paragraph.



Aside from this statement,

You must be registered for see images


skip down to the buttom of this interview.

 
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Not really, and before you bring me some of Kishi's quotes (saying that the manga would've probably ended if he didn't add something interesting to it soon), that was basically what he "thought" would've happened, nobody knows how popular Naruto would've turned out in the end without Sasuke, it might have been far more popular, who knows really? + characters like Kakashi and Gaara were going to save it eventually, so.... u-u

Because this series might as well be about Sasuke when you look at the wanking it did. We know next to nothing about the Uzumaki clan the MC's clan. The only thing Naruto brags about throughout the series is becoming Hokage. There is nothing more to his personality than that. With Sasuke, you had the clan genocide, clash with his brother, fighting Naruto and arguably a more interesting role outside the village. It's definitely possible to watch the series without liking Naruto.
 

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Apparently only Indra riencarnates can obtain the EMS. Other Uchiha tried and failed.








Naruto originally wasn't even about ninja and became one because of Sasuke.

"Q1: ”I’ve always wondered where you began to come up with the concept of ‘Naruto’ as a story and thought that that’s what yoou’d write about.”A: Apparently he started out wanting to write a story about an old guy who owns a ramen shop and a young boy comes by, or something uninteresting like that. Other things also got mixed in with that like a story which was supposed to be really spectacular and it was about straightening up their lives and other emotive plots… He showed that to his publishers but they told him the story is way too far from what they want, and Kobayashi agrees that it doesn’t have any elements befitting a weekly Shounen Jump series. He started to research other shounen series (especially Akira Toriyama, who he was a big fan of). In the end the name ‘Naruto’ came from this failed story attempt, as well as the obvious influences that made it into the actual series. Then he made a story not about ninjas but about youkai (demons), where the main character was a fox who shape-shifted into a human. This story changed again so he made the fox demon into a human and redrew the whole thing, and submitted that version"



"So why ninja in the first place? Kishimoto notes the inspiration of Sasuke, an anime series based on the manga created by Shirato Sanpei. But what really inspired him as a manga artist, he says, was Toriyama Akira’s Dragon Ball."



Naruto was heavily inspired by classic ninja manga, which like Naruto, are heavily inspired by Japanese folklore.

For example there's "Sasuke" & "Kamui", two 1960s manga by Sanpei Shirato. An anime called, "Manga Sarutobi Sasuke", aired on Tv during Kishimoto's childhood. The Sasuke in that series even has a female companion named Sakura.

Kamui is about a rogue ninja who leaves his village and is hunted by his own clan...Sasuke is a story about a boy ninja whose clan is wiped out by another ninja clan who murder his mother who he then fights against seeking vengeance...sound familiar?

Scroll down to "notable works".






A good example of folklore would be, "Tale of the Gallant Jiraiya”, in which Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Tsunade, & even the Sharingan originally appeared. Jiraiya and Tsunade's clans were slain due to being accused of planning a Coup de etat...sound familiar?





There's different versions of the story. Jiraiya had the Sharingan in one of them. Skip down to "Q4", and read the second paragraph.



Aside from this statement,

You must be registered for see images


skip down to the buttom of this interview.


Naruto is what it is because of editors and it’s success in the West.

They wanted a rival character and a girl. Sasuke was a success and Sakura was neglected for years.


Most of the successful series have rival characters.

Goku and Vegeta
Naruto and Sasuke
Asta and Yuno
Deku and King Explosion Murder


Etc.


People act as if Sasuke and Naruto weren’t #1 or 2# in the popularity polls for the entire duration of the series.


If One Piece made it to the West first and didn’t get 4Chan’d. The general reception would be completely different.
 
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Nic I know you ride anything connected to Naruto but let's be real. If Minato is sensei of team Kakashi and just blitzes everybody you won't have a manga where characters can be developed. It would literally be a shit show for people and to develop characters Kakashi and the rest of the team would be ass pulling or standing on the side lines. Be realistic in your approach don't let your D riding blind you to the stupidity of that fix. Naruto was great because Kakashi may have been powerful but had major limits, Naruto and Sasuke were developing as they went along. It was a journey that could be followed and appreciated by everybody's minus the sidelining kishi did now and again.

Bold : It's the opposite, in your case it being the Uchiha. Take your own advice. :hint:


Apparently only Indra riencarnates can obtain the EMS. Other Uchiha tried and failed.








Naruto originally wasn't even about ninja and became one because of Sasuke.

"Q1: ”I’ve always wondered where you began to come up with the concept of ‘Naruto’ as a story and thought that that’s what yoou’d write about.”A: Apparently he started out wanting to write a story about an old guy who owns a ramen shop and a young boy comes by, or something uninteresting like that. Other things also got mixed in with that like a story which was supposed to be really spectacular and it was about straightening up their lives and other emotive plots… He showed that to his publishers but they told him the story is way too far from what they want, and Kobayashi agrees that it doesn’t have any elements befitting a weekly Shounen Jump series. He started to research other shounen series (especially Akira Toriyama, who he was a big fan of). In the end the name ‘Naruto’ came from this failed story attempt, as well as the obvious influences that made it into the actual series. Then he made a story not about ninjas but about youkai (demons), where the main character was a fox who shape-shifted into a human. This story changed again so he made the fox demon into a human and redrew the whole thing, and submitted that version"



"So why ninja in the first place? Kishimoto notes the inspiration of Sasuke, an anime series based on the manga created by Shirato Sanpei. But what really inspired him as a manga artist, he says, was Toriyama Akira’s Dragon Ball."



Naruto was heavily inspired by classic ninja manga, which like Naruto, are heavily inspired by Japanese folklore.

For example there's "Sasuke" & "Kamui", two 1960s manga by Sanpei Shirato. An anime called, "Manga Sarutobi Sasuke", aired on Tv during Kishimoto's childhood. The Sasuke in that series even has a female companion named Sakura.

Kamui is about a rogue ninja who leaves his village and is hunted by his own clan...Sasuke is a story about a boy ninja whose clan is wiped out by another ninja clan who murder his mother who he then fights against seeking vengeance...sound familiar?

Scroll down to "notable works".






A good example of folklore would be, "Tale of the Gallant Jiraiya”, in which Orochimaru, Jiraiya, Tsunade, & even the Sharingan originally appeared. Jiraiya and Tsunade's clans were slain due to being accused of planning a Coup de etat...sound familiar?





There's different versions of the story. Jiraiya had the Sharingan in one of them. Skip down to "Q4", and read the second paragraph.



Aside from this statement,

You must be registered for see images

First of all, congrats on gathering all of this info.
Secondly, I never denied where he got all of his inspiration from.

Lastly, the point of this particular discussion is whether Sasuke the character himself saved this Manga as the others here implied. That isn't the case.
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It's after being advised by his editor about creating a suitable rival for Naruto, that he goes on to gather inspiration for the creation of Sasuke. (Thus points to the info you've gathered above)

In conclusion, rivalry is what kept this manga going.


skip down to the buttom of this interview.


A vice-versa situation made towards the end of the series.
 

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Would have been no point, he would have died due to his sickness shortly after. Gaining EMS cure's blindness,wouldn't have did anything for his sickness.
 

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Bold : It's the opposite, in your case it being the Uchiha. Take your own advice. :hint:




First of all, congrats on gathering all of this info.
Secondly, I never denied where he got all of his inspiration from.

Lastly, the point of this particular discussion is whether Sasuke the character himself saved this Manga as the others here implied. That isn't the case.
You must be registered for see images

It's after being advised by his editor about creating a suitable rival for Naruto, that he goes on to gather inspiration for the creation of Sasuke. (Thus points to the info you've gathered above)

In conclusion, rivalry is what kept this manga going.




A vice-versa situation made towards the end of the series.

From piecing together Kishimoto's statements, we can see that 1) he got the idea of creating a ninja series from the ninja manga/anime called "Sasuke." Then soon afterward he was advised to make a rival and decided to make his own version of Sasuke or 2) He was told to make a rival, recalled the series Sasuke and all the ninja lore, then decided to make his own version of Sasuke the rival and the series about ninja.

Nonetheless, Kishimoto directly admitted he couldn't make the series without him. So yes, he did save the series.
 
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