Itachi body and chakra are too weak for Rinnegan and Juubi

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Hello guys in this thread I will show you why Itachi wouldn't even be able to handle Rinnegan properly let alone become JJ.

I will just post facts directly from Kishi not some fan made photoshop scans.

First as we know Itachi have weak body and low chakra reserves.

Here is manga fact that only after using 1 Tsukuyomi and 1 Amaterasu he needed to rest his body

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Another confirmation is official databook stats where Itachi in chakra/stamina scores only 2,5.Even Iruka has 3 and more chakra/stamina than Itachi.



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Now lets look at Obito he had Senju Dna and he could spam his MS without any problems or need for rest.

Yet he almost lost himself just by having 1 Rinnegan.

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Also as we know you need Rinnegan and powerful body to be able to handle Juubi.

Itachi have weak and ill body so being able to handle Juubi is literally impossible for him.
I mean after all his body couldn't handle illness let alone powerful being like Juubi.

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As we see Itachi body is simply too weak and his stamina is too low to be able to handle Rinnegan or Juubi like Maddy did.
 
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Not everyone can handle Hashi cells and Mokuton as shown in manga, Itachi body can't handle illness so handling Hashi dna is impossible for him.
Hashi cells only boost your physical energy/recovery speed nothing else.

Probably Hashirama cells.

I mean, I don’t have a horse in this race but aids hardly matters when you have the cells of a man capable of healing without seals and the incarnation of the Sage of six paths son.
Hashi's healing is via SM as far as I'm aware and the Ashura soul migrated upon his death. In other words the Ashura chakra had passed on so they wouldn't be of the same quality as they were.
 
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Not everyone can handle Hashi cells and Mokuton as shown in manga, Itachi body can't handle illness so handling Hashi dna is impossible for him.
Itachi is unlike others. Despite having a terminal illness and not taking proper medication, he was still capable of using Susanoo and MS to the extent he did up until his death.

I’m not saying he could take a bunch of cells, but he can definitely take them no problem. Hashirama is compatibility with others is unrealistic but it just works.
 

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Well to be honest it doesn't matter what they boost what matter is that your body must be capable of handling them as shown by Oro experiments with Hashi dna .
That’s a case to case basis, nothing implies Itachi incompatibility with the cells. Especially as his brother was capable of taking those cells just fine.


I’m not even sure why this is even an argument. Why would Itachi need to be a juubi Jin in the first place?
 

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Itachi is unlike others. Despite having a terminal illness and not taking proper medication, he was still capable of using Susanoo and MS to the extent he did up until his death.

I’m not saying he could take a bunch of cells, but he can definitely take them no problem. Hashirama is compatibility with others is unrealistic but it just works.
Re - read the manga about Oro and Yamato regarding Hashi dna in order to avoid talking nonsense.
 

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Well to be honest it doesn't matter what they boost what matter is that your body must be capable of handling them as shown by Oro experiments with Hashi dna .
That is a fact. And Orochimaru was using non Ashura incarnate cells at that point since Hashi was dead and Ashura had passed. It's also a testament to those that can handle Ashura Hashi cells.
 

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Re - read the manga about Oro and Yamato regarding Hashi dna in order to avoid talking nonsense.
Orochimaru experiments were case by case using children several decades before he learned how to properly gene splice and clone like he does now.

What makes Madara situation different is probably due to him being a transmigration.

People like Kabuto were running around with Hashirama cells
 
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Orochimaru experiments were case by case using children several decades before he learned how to properly gene splice and clone like he does now.
There's nothing to suggest Orochimaru has found a way to pass on the Hashi cells without detrimental effects, short of Mitsuki whipping out Moukton. Until Orochimaru or Mitsuki demonstrates such an ability it still stands for Hashi cells.
 
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There's nothing to suggest Orochimaru has found a way to pass on the Hashi cells short of Mitsuki whipping out Moukton. Until Orochimaru does demonstrate that ability it still stands.
Kabuto has Hashirama cells implanted inside himself along with the genes and kkg of several different people who without a doubt, have different genes.

Orochimaru’s research during the time of Yamato, The curse marks, experimentations on Sasuke, karin,suigetsu, juugo, the war arc gene splicing, the shin clones and finally Mitsuki and log are leaps and bounds.
 

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Kabuto has Hashirama cells implanted inside himself along with the genes and kkg of several different people who without a doubt, have different genes.

Orochimaru’s research during the time of Yamato, The curse marks(karin,suigetsu, juugo), the war arc gene splicing, the shin clones and finally Mitsuki and log are leaps and bounds.
No kabuto doesn't otherwise he would've made refernce to them when fighting Itachi and Sasuke. He also wouldn't have wanted a Zetsu for studying. Kabuto had some Hashi cells likely from Orochimaru's experiments which he could play with. As for Kabuto incorporating other DNA, he's Kabuto and had a body which could handle such things he also went onto learn DSM.

While Orochimaru's reasearch may be leaps and bounds, his children have yet to demonstrate the Mokuton ability. I don't for a moment believe Orochimaru wouldn't give his kids such an ability if possible.

Since we're assuming Orochimaru no longer conducts human experiments we may never find out if he's perfected a method to pass them to others.
 
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There’s nothing supporting that Itachi, under the same circumstances as Sasuke had when receiving the DNA from Kabuto is not compatible or too weak to hold.


A better argument would be that he would need rinnegan to even attempt to be a juubi Jin.

Not to mention, why is this even being discussed? Itachi and any descendant of Hagoromo’s lineage be it senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha have. Good chance at being a Jin at default.


Obito being a prime example. An amazing Uchiha who managed to host Hashirama cells and rinnegan despite having half of his body crushed. I’m not sure if you know or not but having half a functional body is a lot weaker than a terminal illness that canonically has treatment in the form of medication.
 
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