The nerfing of the most exalted doujutsu ever: The Rinnegan

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The entirety of the Naruto and Boruto staff undoubtedly ruined the crown jewel of the series that separated God tier beings from High Jounin, S-class and Kages. It started with Nagato who displayed feats that no other Rinnegan bearer to this day were able to replicate, save for chibaku Tensei and the Preta Paths absorption. He is the downgraded pinnacle of the possibilities of the Rinnegan- and I say downgraded because those weren’t truly his eyes and he didn’t have a body that manifested the eyes. Then they introduced Obito and Edo jinchuriki’s that possessed the Rinnegan which was entirely lackluster but it made sense because Obito’s chakra reserves couldn’t handle THAT many things and utilize 6 Paths techniques with the Jinchurikis. Then we had Edo Nagato, whipping ass and taking names (even though he wasn’t in control of himself) and he got plot capped but at least he displayed ALL of the 6 Paths of the Rinnegan again.

Then enters Edo Madara whom only used the Preta Path (which makes sense for plot) that massacred pretty much everyone. Then Juubito whom didn’t use any of the Rinnegan’s abilities, except for maybe the chakra absorption he used on SO6P Madara. Then we have revived Madara and SO6P Madara that foolishly only used Limbo and Chibaku Tensei. Sasuke only used Chibaku Tensei, Chakra absorption and Ameno. More disappointments right?

The last two straws that broke the camel’s back are Adult Sasuke and Momoshiki. Adult Sasuke has been reduced to absolute shit, not to a fault of his own of course (he’s a character) but simply because of the writers. Absolutely no use of the Rinnegan’s 6 Paths at all, except for in Boruto Movie where he heals his burns by absorbing Naruto’s chakra cloak...which obviously didn’t happen in the manga. Momoshiki is the pinnacle of disappointment though, he’s an alien Otsutsuki that possessed the Rinnegan. What a waste of possibilities to only be able to absorb, copy ninjutsu, spit it out and be able to multiply it by x amount of power. OH I almost forgot that he could turn people into chakra fruit and make Red Earth pills.
-Now granted, maybe Momoshiki’s Rinnegan isn’t as OP as the KKG variant obtained through Earth’s chakra fruit. But the writers and directors could literally do whatever they want so unless they specify that, it’s not a good excuse.

In my opinion though, Momoshiki is far more disappointing than Sasuke though and if anything, they should’ve waited to introduce his character later on so they could stack 6 Paths abilities onto him.
 
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Brw, I typed that from memory of the series therefore I may be missing a few instances that the characters made use of the Rinnegan. If that’s the case, let me know and I’ll update the OP.
 

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Sasuke has only moved his opponents once (Madara) so if you ask me , he even uses Ameno foolishly let alone six paths of Rinnegan
 

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Sasuke has only moved his opponents once (Madara) so if you ask me , he even uses Ameno foolishly let alone six paths of Rinnegan
Iirc, I think he tried it on Kaguya too and that was right before she teleported them to the ice world. But if I’m remembering wrongly then I definitely agree.
 

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To be fair to Momo his Rinnegan isn't said to possess the 6 paths. All he's show is absorbtion through 1 and then release through the other. I think he adds rokudo chakra to the techs so amps them up on relese but that's another issue.

As for thr Rinnegan users being nerfed there's no doubt in that, Nagato was OP by having it and he's not even close to incarnate level. If the Indra incarnates weren't nerfed they'd solo everybody that's why Madara was removed. With his dojutsu abilities and the 6 paths up at Jyubi Jin tier there's no way Naruto and Sasuke were beating him.

The same goes for Sasuke the moment he starts adding the paths to his combat he's unbeatable. He could've wrecked Momo and Kin with just Preta, Ameno and kenjutsu. Even in the manga retcon when Momo used the shadow binding he could've just absorbed the chakra via preta but no he just stood there doing f'all. I guess if he did that Boruto being brought there would've been pointless.


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Some would argue that they didn't know the 6 paths but Madara did which is confirmed in the scan. It also confirms Obito knew them since Madara taught him them.
 
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We already talked about this and I proved it wrong. Let’s not repeat this here.
Proved what? You proved Chibaku tensei is a Rinnegan jutsu which I never challenged. I only needed one scan to prove you wrong and that scan was Sasuke ameno classified as Kekkei genkai whereas Pain jutsu were classified as nothing more than hidden/secret jutsu which is either a secret clan/nagato invented or acquired technique.

The only thing common to all Rinnegan users is CT and absorption and individual abilities like limbo and ameno. Madara had both eyes, is original, is Juubi jin, has asura and indra chakras, then why didnt he use it? Why isnt he listed as the user for this when its his eyes originally?

I am not saying Sasuke wont acquire it in the future. He has the potential/Sarada might acquire it. The mere fact Sasuke after mastering his Rinnegan cannot use all of it proves the point.
 

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To be fair to Momo his Rinnegan isn't said to possess the 6 paths. All he's show is absorbtion through 1 and then release through the other. I think he adds rokudo chakra to the techs so amps them up on relese but that's another issue.

As for thr Rinnegan users being nerfed there's no doubt in that, Nagato was OP by having it and he's not even close to incarnate level. If the Indra incarnates weren't nerfed they'd solo everybody that's why Madara was removed. With his dojutsu abilities and the 6 paths up at Jyubi Jin tier there's no way Naruto and Sasuke were beating him.

The same goes for Sasuke the moment he starts adding the paths to his combat he's unbeatable. He could've wrecked Momo and Kin with just Preta, Ameno and kenjutsu. Even in the manga retcon when Momo used the shadow binding he could've just absorbed the chakra via preta but no he just stood there doing f'all. I guess if he did that Boruto being brought there would've been pointless.


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Some would argue that they didn't know the 6 paths but Madara did which is confirmed in the scan. It also confirms Obito knew them since Madara taught him them.
The six paths jutsu Madara was talking about in thatbscan is the jutsu blind Madara used on Edo Madara.
The six path of pain jutsu( the ones Nagato used) are just powers of Gedo mazo divided into 6 bodies.
 

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The six paths jutsu Madara was talking about in thatbscan is the jutsu blind Madara used on Edo Madara.
The six path of pain jutsu( the ones Nagato used) are just powers of Gedo mazo divided into 6 bodies.
Maybe but then Obito could also use human path and he was going to use it on Yamato so he had to learn it from somewhere. I'm inclind to believe Madara taught him the jutsu as he claims aftwr all he was cultivated as a back up. However Obito couldn't use them without the Rinnegan but he could use the outer path with Madara's rod.
 
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Maybe but then Obito could also use human path and he was going to use it on Yamato so he had to learn it from somewhere. I'm inclind to believe Madara taught him the jutsu as he claims aftwr all he was cultivated as a back up. However Obito couldn't use them without the Rinnegan but he could use the outer path with Madara's rod.
Completely understandable and it would make sense but Madara and Obito didn't have the rinnegan when they learned the six paths jutsu and shadow and light style.
When Tobi said that he was going to use Rinne Ningendo I assumed that he was talking about the Outerpath power that he uses to extract soul and gain intel like he did when he knew exactly which biju Naruto was missing.

What do you think?
 

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Preta is not Rinnegan jutsu nor is any other path. Even if it is its only for Nagato.
 

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Completely understandable and it would make sense but Madara and Obito didn't have the rinnegan when they learned the six paths jutsu and shadow and light style.
When Tobi said that he was going to use Rinne Ningendo I assumed that he was talking about the Outerpath power that he uses to extract soul and gain intel like he did when he knew exactly which biju Naruto was missing.

What do you think?
It is perplexing, how can Madara with no Rinnegan teach Obito the 6 paths? Well the answer was pointed to when Madara was explaining the IT to Obito.

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Madara said anything was possible in the genjutsu world while he was connected to the Mezo. I believe Madara trained Obito in the use of the 6 paths and the other styles within this world. Let's face it Madara was definitely to old for combat and he was only alive because of the Mezo. Madara as the possessor of the Rinnegan would have learnt how to use the jutsu so training Obito in this world wouldn't be an issue for him. That's why Madara said he taught him the 6 path jutsu and Obito was also be able to use the paths when he had the Rinnegan.

As for the outer path as far as I'm aware it doesn't grant mind reading ability. I dont think Obito knew which bijuu were missing because of the outerpath but because during the tug of war you had Bee and Gaara pulling their chakra. It was kind of obvious to Obito because of that reason.

My thoughts summarised: Madara taught Obito the six paths for the reasons mentioned now and prior. Madara gave Obito the ability to use the outer path via Madara's rokudo chakra rod so he could use it without the Rinnegan. On acquiring the Rinnegan Obito could use the 6 paths jutsu Madara taught him via mini IT.
 
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Preta is not Rinnegan jutsu nor is any other path. Even if it is its only for Nagato.
Bruh, that's from a databook when the information had to be intentionally limited for chronological reasons.
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It even makes mention of how it's unknown if the abilities originate from the Rinnegan or not. It's a safe assumption that Preta Path's classification was under the restriction that it couldn't give off whether or not it isn't a Rinnegan tech, so whatever it leads you to is bound to be unconfirmed. Whereas we've seen Preta Path used by both Sasuke and Madara and there's no question to the fact. If the Paths were so unique, Madara couldn't have possibly placed Rinne Tensei into his plans nor would Obito know how to use it.
 
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