Strongest opponent Hinita Uzumaki can beat?

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Lol the troll actually thinks he has an argument, reposting the same facts you failed to read a thousand times over isn’t copying and pasting but wouldn’t know right? You could see a manga page showing Sarada kicking someone and you’ll still say she didn’t kick anyone.

Stick to using video games as feats & evidence.

Another L XD
 
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Problem with logic is that Sakura can use Tsunades techniques on Tsunades level, case in point Byakugou’s regeneration. They both have used the the same technique, to do the same thing and each had the same outcome of being fully regenerated.
Byakugo Seal is better for Sakura because she doesn't need to use it to look young. That's an exception not the norm, just as Hinata having TLF over Neji during the war doesn't make her stronger than him. Anyways, Tsunade still has the better feats here in terms of speed and strength by a long shot, so comparing her to Sakura is wrong.

To shut you down further, name one thing Tsunade did when she was at her strongest (Kages Vs. Madara) that Sakura couldn’t do the minute she opened seal til now. You can’t name one...
Fought and landed clean, frontal hits on Madara. Tanked blades into her body and blitzed a SusanoO while in that state. I also recall plenty of threads back in the day analyzing her speed feats, but I'm not bothered enough to go searching them up.
“And grew to be the best medical ninja in kohona in the blink of an eye ”
To be speak in future tense, already told you this.



“Strongest or best (depending on your hypocrisy) Healing Ninja of the hidden leaf. Inherited the will, power and knowledge of her master Tsunade."
Best=/=Strongest.

Tsunade is better than Kabuto as a medic, but Kabuto is stronger, making Kabuto the stronger medic. And honestly? Since when did promotional magazine scans qualify as canon?

Why do you always contradict yourself though?
Maybe because that was before I realized that the above translation says "best" and not "strongest". And no, you can't just go interchanging the two words as they have distinct different meanings.
Tsunade was not fresh out of deaths door, Karin has already restored her chakra & Strength or are you not reading the manga?

Sakura didn’t fail to heal Shikamaru just just didn’t do it as fast but that’s not a take away becuase a chaphter later Sakura has to go in Tsunades place to keep Naruto alive becuase she couldn’t.

So are willing to give Tsunade the same critique? She couldn’t keep naruto alive herself but she sent Sakura because Sakura could or you to blinded with hate to chomprehend that?
It was only enough to get by, hence why she, Mei, and Ay were all getting pummeled by someone as weak as Guruguru, with Tsunade later on even confirming she didn't have any Chakra to save Naruto and hence why Sakura did it, which seems to be something you want to ignore when presenting that page.

This means that Tsunade arrived on the battle field with limited Chakra, yet even with an extremely low level of Chakra, she was able to save Shikamaru while Sakura with a cloak plus Naruto's help couldn't do it.


I said Sakura didn’t have the adequate feats to back back up the fact that she surpassed Tsunade before you did and even without that being said Sakura still surpassed her factually.

It is a fact that Sakura surpassed Tsunade, read the facts above.

Sakura has all of Tsunades medical knowlage, ability & strengths FACTUALLY which means anything Tsunade can do Sakura can do as well. Now as I said way before you did, feats would’ve been nice because it would shut people like you up but it she is still superior to Tsunade nevertheless.
lol Same argument? Again, Madara having all of Hagoromo's powers =/= Madara doing it as good as Hagoromo. Wasn't this already a point established with Nagato's inferior Chibuka Tensei? Or even with Neji's Byakugan compared to Hinata's? Or Orochimaru and Kabuto's skills with Edo Tensei?

We already know Sakura has Tsunade's abilities, but the level is what is being argued here and you have nothing to back up your claims, and instead facts contradict what you are claiming.

Feats would’ve been nice but a fact is a fact! Nothing can be hypothical if it follows facts, stop projecting.
So why is it when I bring up Hamura Chakra you start denying things and insisting Hinata lost it? If I were to use your logic in this debate, which I will refrain from, I could argue Hinata can power her Air Palm to reach greater feats than what she did in Chapter 616.

If we are speaking hypothetical by following facts as you want to do so, shouldn't Hinata be able to open the 8th Gate since said Gate is Chakra Point, which we know the Byakugan can see and open/close?

Still hanging onto part 1 I see XD
Part 2 actually.
Let’s talk recent events, the villages safety and it’s people safety are Sakura’s first priority or did you miss that part in the Boruto movie?
I never said she was a bad ninja, just worse.

Hinata being a chunin & Sakura being a elite ninja in addition to the fact that Sakura was stronger then Hinata before being promoted just means shes more skilled & experienced then Hinata all the way around.
I don't get what you're arguing here, it honestly just sounds like you're typing filler sentences to make it look like you have a point.

Sakura was not factually stronger than Hinata before promotion, considering she nearly got killed by Juubi Clones and was relegated to the back tents rather than fighting on the battle field, and no being a medic is irrelevant as Ino and Hana were on the battlefield too.

Not to mention a perfect display of their skills is shown when Hinata reacts to a wooden spike without Byakugan while Sakura is saved by Kakashi from one of them.

Or when Hinata reacts to the Juubi's hand while Sakura fails to avoid shurikens and kunais, both which happened after the teo gor cloaks

Or the fact that the Hyuga were assigned to protect Naruto, not Sakura or anyone else. So if you want to talk actual skills based on facts, the manga has Hinata as the superior during the war. And no, Byakugo does not enhance speed or reflexes.

Skills and experience don’t matter now?
According to you given you try comparing featless Sakura with Tsunade.

I’ve never made such an argument so this part of your response is irrelevant but since you brought Neji up... he's the one who has a better chance of beating Sakura, way better then Hinata’s chance.
Eh, you get what I'm saying so I don't think there's a need to get hung up on technicalities. A ninja of a lower rank can beat those superior to them, and this has been shown time and time again. Shikamaru VS Hidan, Chiyo/Sakura VS Sasori, Naruto VS Pain, Leaf Genin Vs Sound 5.

I know for a fact you are smart enough to understand and comprehend the point I am making here, so stop treating ranks as an impenetrable barrier that's a be all end all. I won't be arguing this point further if you bring it up since I've said what I've wanted to say here.

Being a Jonin qualifies you to become a kage
Naruto's a genin. So is Kabuto.

I’ve made my point many times over again.. Sakura is faster, stronger, smarter, more agile and has more stamina then hinata but to top it off she has more feats. Sakura clearly is the superior ninja no matter how much you undermine her and dismiss facts. Saying Hinata can beat Sakura is like saying she can beat Tsunade and Hinata isn’t in the same stratosphere as Tsunade.
Speed - Hinata kept up with puppets without Byakugan, those that overwhelmed Naruto in speed and CQC at times, are you arguing Sakura is better than Naruto in those two categories when she has no feats to speak of? If not, then it's clear who is faster here. Even in Chapter 614, we see who is superior in reflexes.

Stronger- Naturally, duh. Like what? But it's all futile in front of Gentle Fist

Smarter - How does this help her against a CQC user when she has no intelligence feats against CQC users?

Agile - Isn't this the same as speed? Anyways, Hinata's the one who has more agility and flow in her movements, as shown by 64 Palms and in The Last where she performed parry attacks, double kicks, back flipped in midair, and avoided attacks from multiple angles. That alone has her agility as being superior.

Sakura isn't Tsuande, stop trying to push them as equals. Come back with some feats instead. Preferablly ones that show Sakura has surpassed Tsunade as a fighter, since we already know she is inferior as a medic as shown by Shikamaru's case and the artificial arm.

And yes a poison kunai negs Hinata, remember what it did to Naruto?

But let me guess, hinata has some magical Humura granted ability that makes her immune to poisons right? Or she can just fly away.
That would require her to engage in CQC, which Hinata would beat her in. Do you have feats of Sakura being able to use this poison kunai effectively in combat beyond just a sneak attack? I hope you can recall how Kakashi said that Neji being able to hit the Chakra Points while in combat was impressive, even if he could see them, but Hinata who could see them, can't apply that same principle in combat. Same applies here.


Not to mention that poison takes time.
 
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Lol the Sakura fap actually thinks I care about his meaningless existence, dude has to wank a failure of character on a daily basis to proof how strong and well written his favorite character "actually is".

Imagine being so obsessed with a character that you have to paste/screenshot old comments from several members as proved once again in this thread XD

Keep entertaining me monkey
:lmao:
Those don't seem like the type of things to take much effort though.
 

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Byakugo Seal is better for Sakura because she doesn't need to use it to look young.
Has nothing to do with my point.

Tsunade & Sakuras seals do the same things on the same levels, Sakura simply has more chakra and can better utilize becuase she doesn’t use it chakra to appear younger.

Tsunade still has the better feats here in terms of speed and strength by a long shot, so comparing her to Sakura is wrong.
It is not wrong, Sakura surpassed her and its been factually stated. And I’d even go as far to say that Tsunade doesn’t have faster speed feats and Sakura even has comparable or better CES feats too. We’ve never seen Tsunade our maneuver a MS user (with 12+ of them) and land a direct attack to the chest nor have we seen her release chakra from her fist an impact her target without touching it. Anyway Sakura inherited her power so if you couple that with what I just described Sakura has a lot going for her.

Fought and landed clean, frontal hits on Madara.
Sakura laid a clean swift deadly one-shot blow to Shin chest (frontal) under the same circumstance expect that Shin had eyes all over his body in her direction.

Tanked blades into her body and blitzed a SusanoO while in that state.
Sakura could do the same, she has the exact means that Tsunade has when she did it. The mere fact that there is a possibility of Sakura surviving such a thing is another reason why Hinata isn’t on her level.

I also recall plenty of threads back in the day analyzing her speed feats, but I'm not bothered enough to go searching them up.
As I’ve said before and will continue to say, Tsunade has better and more feats but that doesn’t mean Sakura didn’t surpass her or couldn’t when the facts say so.

Tsunade is better than Kabuto as a medic, but Kabuto is stronger, making Kabuto the stronger medic.
Fanfic.

Tsunade is the stronger & better medic then Kabuto when it trickles down to medical ninjutsu by his own admission, if you wish to take this conversation into a combative argument make another thread.

Sakura>Tsunade>Kabuto in medical ninjutsu.

And honestly? Since when did promotional magazine scans qualify as canon?
When Kishi wrote & illustrated it yes and you have no choice other to accept it or be deemed a troll as Hanibae but I also provided a DB page too.



Maybe because that was before I realized that the above translation says "best" and not "strongest". And no, you can't just go interchanging the two words as they have distinct different meanings.
Like I said before hand, I’ll allow you to dwell on the two words just to undermine the fact that Sakura surpassed Tsunade and has all of her knowlage & strength. Sakura was said to be the best medic by the 4th shinobi war so if she was the best then why wouldn’t she then eat and strongest 3 years later after even being promoted to Jonin?

It was only enough to get by, hence why she, Mei, and Ay were all getting pummeled by someone as weak as Guruguru, with Tsunade later on even confirming she didn't have any Chakra to save Naruto and hence why Sakura did it, which seems to be something you want to ignore when presenting that page.
I didn’t ignore anything!

Sakura didn’t heal Shikamaru Tsunade did.

Tsunade didn’t heal Naruto when she was asked too, Sakura did.

They each were able to cover the others inability.



This means that Tsunade arrived on the battle field with limited Chakra,
Scan please, not your inference, prove she arrived with limited chakra. Did she summon 1/10th of Katsuyu with Sakura? Yet her chakra was limited?

even with an extremely low level of Chakra, she was able to save Shikamaru while Sakura with a cloak plus Naruto's help couldn't do it.
Your making things up, prove she was low on chakra when she arrived and healed Shikamaru? Would someone low on Chaka have enough chakra to summon 1/10th of Katsuyu then go onto regenerate the SA?

But let’s kill the Shikamaru sitiuation..

“Sakura struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade did it with one touch.”
Well once again I need to educate some people, some fans of certain, weaker characters. There is this notion which circulated around the fandom back in 2013-2014 and which has reared its ugly head once more in 2017. The claim is that Sakura in the war is an inferior medic to Tsunade as allegedly she struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade effortlessly healed him with one touch. This, like most of what circulates around this fandom, is wrong.

As shown in the panels below Shikamaru lost most, if not all of his chakra and he was dying. Other shinobi experienced this and died already and he was almost there.

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Sakura alludes to his impending death in the above panel as she reached Shikamaru to start the healing process.



Now 2 chapter later we see Sakura healing Shikamaru who is now covered in a chakra cloak courtesy Naruto. She’s healing him while Naruto’s chakra cloak is doing the same.

In summary Sakura is healing dying Shikamaru while Naruto has is supporting this with his cloak’s healing and support abilities.

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Fast forward a bit and the process is successful. Thanks to Naruto’s chakra cloak is was able to rally through. Of course Sakura healed his body as well as pointed out by Ino, another medical ninja.

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Shikamaru is saved. He is out of danger and is no longer at death’s door. Ino thanks Sakura and Naruto while Sakura herself thanks Naruto for his help.



Now let’s get to the funny part. After Shikamaru survives and is out of danger, he is still weak. Tsunade enters the fray and touches him, expediting the healing or giving him chakra, it’s not 100% clear. Let’s assume she healed him further. As shown below he was just saved and Tsunade came and healed him further.

How does this prove that Tsunade succeeded where Sakura failed?

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As seen above Shikamaru was dying and was saved by Sakura and Naruto’s combined efforts. After he was saved but still weak and hurt Tsunade came and touched him which healed him; gave him a chakra boost.

This is not the same thing. The logic behind the ridiculous claim is that Sakura failed and Tsunade healed him but that would mean that he died. Unless he was inflicted again after Sakura + Naruto’s healing Tsunade DID NOT do the same thing.

Sakura and Naruto saved him from dying. After he was saved Tsunade came in and healed him further.

>>>>The false claim implies that Sakura couldn’t give him chakra or heal him after Naruto and herself saved him from dying/immediate danger. She has chakra and can heal so that’s wrong.

>>>>It also implies that Tsunade was also healing a dying Shikamaru when it was shown that he was saved and then she came in after and healed him further.

How does any of that make any sense?

Sakura is so far behind Tsunade that while she struggled and needed Naruto’s help Tsunade effortlessly did the same thing with one hand and no effort?

Shikamaru was dying so Naruto and Sakura saved him but then he was dying again so Tsunade came and did it better with on hand?

I would also like to point out that after he was saved he got up and talked while Sakura paused so had he needed more chakra or healing, she didn’t get the chance to follow up with the supplementary treatments then Tsunade came in and did it for her. It proves nothing other than Tsunade helped her out and Kishi allowed Shikamaru to talk a bit before he was completely fine.

It’s even stated in databook 4 that Tsunade thought of Sakura as an equal and someone who could heal at her side right after the Shikamaru incident, further debunking the shit being said by you.

DATABOOK 4:

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Tsunade to Sakura: “Well done…”


Tsunade’s thoughts: “You won’t have to settle for your rank. Let us rejoice upon your development and stand on the front lines side by side…!!”

lol Same argument? Again, Madara having all of Hagoromo's powers =/= Madara doing it as good as Hagoromo.
This version of Madara has all of Hagoromo's powers?

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Sakura was not factually stronger than Hinata before promotion
Yes she was.


A stat and jutsu comparison, includes databooks 1-¾ information:

Sakura manga only jutsu:

•Chakra enhanced strength
•Chakra scalpel
•Cherry blossom impact
•Mystic palm technique
•Ninja art rebirth strength of 100
•Delicate illness extraction
•Immense network healing (w/Katsuyu)
•Summoning technique
•Creation Rebirth
•Yin seal release
Databook 1 stat total: 15.5
Databook 2 stat total: 18
Databook 3 stat total: 26

Databook 4 extra (no stats featured): “She received the initiation at the techniques from Tsunade at first and also from her elder pupil Shizune, and grew to be the best medical Ninja in Konoha in the twinkle of an eye.”
Quotes from the manga(All VIZ translations):
Hashirama,“ what monster strength! It might even be greater than Tsunade’s!”
Sakura,“and I don’t have to waste any to maintain a youthful appearance.”
Kakashi,“ She may just end up a better kunochi than even lady fifth!”
Chiyo,“You’ll likely surpass your teacher.”

Tsunade,“A Kunochi inheriting the prodigal three’s power.”

Hinata manga only jutsu:

•twin lion fists
•8 trigrams 64 palms
•8 trigrams vacuum palm
•Gentle Step twin lion fists
•gentle fist
Databook 1 stat total: 14
Databook 2 stat total: 15
Databook 3 stat total: 21.5

Here’s her 4th DB translation as Sakura entry, there isn’t stats entered so the previous stats in DB 3 applies




You can do maths right? 26>21

Sakura was always stronger.



considering she nearly got killed by Juubi Clones and was relegated to the back tents rather than fighting on the battle field
Reach, Sakura could’ve reacted if her teammates didn’t, she automatically reacted to Kaguyas chakra hand which was “very fast” according to marut so the same could’ve happened here but the undertone or theme of that chaphter was having each other’s backs.

Anyway Sakura wasn’t in any immediate danger but if you wanna y’all about Juubi clones, how many did Hinata take out? Or even put down?

Not even 1 and she damn near broke her ankles trying.

not to mention a perfect display of their skills is shown when Hinata reacts to a wooden spike without Byakugan while Sakura is saved by one of them.
Chapters later Sakura is instantly reacting to Kaguyas chakra hand, which is “very fast” according to Naruto.

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I say. You find another example.

Or the fact that the Hyuga were assigned to protect Naruto, not Sakura.
And? Are telling me because the hyuga as whole was assigned to protect Naruto, Hinata who wasn’t no where near the strongest or second strongest Hyuga is stronger then hinata by default?

Troll..


So if you want to talk actual skills based on facts, the manga has Hinata as the superior during the war.
And you would be a even bigger troll then what you are.

Feast on the facts my dear...


1. Sakura healed Naruto and saved him from literal death. Something Hagoromo himself couldn't reverse, and something Tsunade wasn't even around for.
2. Sakura provided the chakra necessary to bring Sasuke back and save the world while Hinata was sleeping.
3. Sakura already reestablished morale within the SA.
4. Sakura was the one who put Kaguya in place for CT.
5. Sakura healed thousands of shinobi at once.
6. Sakura defeated dozens of Juubi clones.
7. Sakura healed Naruto multiple times throughout the war.
8. Sakura deduced Zetsu's transformative ability and Mokuton use.


Hinata is more skilled where?

Sakura has more feats (useful feats at that) in the war.

And no, Byakugo does not enhance speed or reflexes.
Yes it does, Byakugou a enhances the users intire physicality and their jutsu as well.

Not to mention that poison takes time.
Is that your only countered?

It would take time for Sakura to make the poison?

I say she’ll already have it made.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Anyway I’ve made my point dozens of times over, Sakura is stronger then Hinata
Point blank period and theira nothing you can say or post to counter it. Hinata is a retired chunin house wife while Sakura is a Jonin-Saninn level shinobi who took out a MS user all on her own. Sakura was already a whole leap and bound of ahead of Hinata before the war started or even before being promoted according to the stats
so why would the gap be smaller after 15-20 years later?

Tsunade was surpassed, discredit the fact below please..

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Has nothing to do with my point.

Tsunade & Sakuras seals do the same things on the same levels, Sakura simply has more chakra and can better utilize becuase she doesn’t use it chakra to appear younger.
Same applies to Tsunade in other categories based on her having feats and Sakura not having said feats.
It is not wrong, Sakura surpassed her and its been factually stated.
Only factually stated surpassing she's done is against Shizune. I'd like to see a scan instead of you just saying the same thing over and over again hoping it will be fact.

And I’d even go as far to say that Tsunade doesn’t have faster speed feats
Tsunade is faster as shown by her fight with Madara. Sakura doesn't compare at all.
and Sakura even has comparable or better CES feats too.
Susano'O vs the ground. Which is stronger? Can you tell me?
We’ve never seen Tsunade our maneuver a MS user (with 12+ of them) and land a direct attack to the chest
Are you really going to do this again? A surprise attack?
nor have we seen her release chakra from her fist an impact her target without touching it.
Never happened.

Sakura laid a clean swift deadly one-shot blow to Shin chest (frontal) under the same circumstance expect that Shin had eyes all over his body in her direction.
1. Comparing Shin's sorry existence to Madara :lmao:

2. Like Kaguya, like Kiba, Lee, Naruto, and Sai, she only accomplished this due to Shin having his attention elsewhere and/or being distracred. It is no different than Naruto landing a clean punch on Kaguya after she was dazed by his reverse harem. Are you going to argue now that Naruto's CQC is superior to Kaguya's reflexes? What about when Naruto uppercut Neji? His base Naruto superior to Neji at that point? No, it's just a sneak attack. Oh, and of course, the best examples would be Bolt VS Momoshiki or Bolt VS Ao, two opponents far superior to him who he managed to land hits on due to timing and strategy, even if their Byakugans had to be ignored for the sake of plot, but that's a tangent tbh.

And like I've said a million times before, and this is something you can't seem to comprehend for some reason, Shin has no base feats to say his precognition means anything, as precognition is based on the user's normal reflexes, just as kid Sasuke's precognition is lower than adult Sasuke due to the difference in base reflexes even though they both are using the exact same eye. For all we know, Shin's reflexes are worse than a Zetsu's.

Not to mention Shin, despite having MS in both eyes, has no Susano'O even though Sussano'O is something gained by having both eyes (as shown by Kakashi and stated by Madara to Obito). Meaning his eyes are very clearly not up to par with real, authentic Sharingans. So do you even have proof his replica Sharingans have the Precogntion ability when they don't have Susano'O?

Sakura could do the same, she has the exact means that Tsunade has when she did it. The mere fact that there is a possibility of Sakura surviving such a thing is another reason why Hinata isn’t on her level.
lol Where's the proof of Sakura's tanking feats when she got owned by Kabuto's cheeks of steel? Arguing Sakura fans is so damn funny because all they do is rely on Tsunade's feats and insist Sakura can do the same :lol

Tsunade is the stronger & better medic then Kabuto when it trickles down to medical ninjutsu by his own admission, if you wish to take this conversation into a combative argument make another thread.

Sakura>Tsunade>Kabuto in medical ninjutsu.
Talking about power/skill/strength here.

When Kishi wrote & illustrated it yes and you have no choice other to accept it or be deemed a troll as Hanibae but I also provided a DB page too.
Except Kishimoto isn't in the marketing busniess :lol So you have no proof that promotional material qualifies as canon. Only the movie does.

Like I said before hand, I’ll allow you to dwell on the two words just to undermine the fact that Sakura surpassed Tsunade and has all of her knowlage & strength. Sakura was said to be the best medic by the 4th shinobi war so if she was the best then why wouldn’t she then eat and strongest 3 years later after even being promoted to Jonin?
Because you can't understand that Sakura was in fact never said to be the best medic by the 4th World War. To be indicates future tense. The boy who grew to be Hokage. The boy who grew to be the strongest shinobi. The girl who grew to be the best medic. God almighty, why do I have to sit here and give you English lessons!?

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I didn’t ignore anything!

Sakura didn’t heal Shikamaru Tsunade did.

Tsunade didn’t heal Naruto when she was asked too, Sakura did.

They each were able to cover the others inability.
Honestly, do you even read the pages you post? Tsunade says she has no Chakra to use Medical ninjutsu, that is the only reason Sakura was taken. Gaara went to Tsunade for help, not Sakura.


Scan please, not your inference, prove she arrived with limited chakra. Did she summon 1/10th of Katsuyu with Sakura? Yet her chakra was limited?
Tsunade says so in the damn page YOU!!! POSTED!!!! LMAO!!! Read!! Read!! XD Even Mei comments on how she has low Chakra as does Ay. Are you telling me these Kages lost all their Chakra by simply sitting on Gaara's sand and flying?!
Your making things up, prove she was low on chakra when she arrived and healed Shikamaru? Would someone low on Chaka have enough chakra to summon 1/10th of Katsuyu then go onto regenerate the SA?

“Sakura struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade did it with one touch.”
Well once again I need to educate some people, some fans of certain, weaker characters. There is this notion which circulated around the fandom back in 2013-2014 and which has reared its ugly head once more in 2017. The claim is that Sakura in the war is an inferior medic to Tsunade as allegedly she struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade effortlessly healed him with one touch. This, like most of what circulates around this fandom, is wrong.

As shown in the panels below Shikamaru lost most, if not all of his chakra and he was dying. Other shinobi experienced this and died already and he was almost there.


Sakura alludes to his impending death in the above panel as she reached Shikamaru to start the healing process.

Now 2 chapter later we see Sakura healing Shikamaru who is now covered in a chakra cloak courtesy Naruto. She’s healing him while Naruto’s chakra cloak is doing the same.

In summary Sakura is healing dying Shikamaru while Naruto has is supporting this with his cloak’s healing and support abilities.

Fast forward a bit and the process is successful. Thanks to Naruto’s chakra cloak is was able to rally through. Of course Sakura healed his body as well as pointed out by Ino, another medical ninja.

Shikamaru is saved. He is out of danger and is no longer at death’s door. Ino thanks Sakura and Naruto while Sakura herself thanks Naruto for his help.

Now let’s get to the funny part. After Shikamaru survives and is out of danger, he is still weak. Tsunade enters the fray and touches him, expediting the healing or giving him chakra, it’s not 100% clear. Let’s assume she healed him further. As shown below he was just saved and Tsunade came and healed him further.

How does this prove that Tsunade succeeded where Sakura failed?

As seen above Shikamaru was dying and was saved by Sakura and Naruto’s combined efforts. After he was saved but still weak and hurt Tsunade came and touched him which healed him; gave him a chakra boost.

This is not the same thing. The logic behind the ridiculous claim is that Sakura failed and Tsunade healed him but that would mean that he died. Unless he was inflicted again after Sakura + Naruto’s healing Tsunade DID NOT do the same thing.

Sakura and Naruto saved him from dying. After he was saved Tsunade came in and healed him further.

>>>>The false claim implies that Sakura couldn’t give him chakra or heal him after Naruto and herself saved him from dying/immediate danger. She has chakra and can heal so that’s wrong.

>>>>It also implies that Tsunade was also healing a dying Shikamaru when it was shown that he was saved and then she came in after and healed him further.

How does any of that make any sense?

Sakura is so far behind Tsunade that while she struggled and needed Naruto’s help Tsunade effortlessly did the same thing with one hand and no effort?

Shikamaru was dying so Naruto and Sakura saved him but then he was dying again so Tsunade came and did it better with on hand?

I would also like to point out that after he was saved he got up and talked while Sakura paused so had he needed more chakra or healing, she didn’t get the chance to follow up with the supplementary treatments then Tsunade came in and did it for her. It proves nothing other than Tsunade helped her out and Kishi allowed Shikamaru to talk a bit before he was completely fine.

It’s even stated in databook 4 that Tsunade thought of Sakura as an equal and someone who could heal at her side right after the Shikamaru incident, further debunking the shit being said by you.
Nice copy paste. Anyways, Shikamaru was brought back to full health by and saved thanks to Tsunade. I am not rejecting Sakura's role in helping, so this whole thing is irrelevant, but the fact that Sakura couldn't fix him up but Tsunade did shows who is superior here. Simple as that. Just as it is with Neji and Hinata where she saves him or with Hiashi and Hinata when she lands the Mind transfer instead of Hiashi. Doesn't change the fact that Neji/Hiashi is superior, just as it doesn't change the fact that Tsunade is superior


This version of Madara has all of Hagoromo's powers?
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Do you have memory loss problems? My statement about Madara and Hagoromo was not tied to that moment but to your flimsy argument that having the same abilities equates to performing those abilities the same.
•Chakra enhanced strength
Chakra scalpel
•Cherry blossom impact
Mystic palm technique
•Ninja art rebirth strength of 100
•Delicate illness extraction
•Immense network healing (w/Katsuyu)
•Summoning technique
•Creation Rebirth
•Yin seal release
All the bold is irrelevant as they are all medical ninjutsu, things that Sakura won't have time for in combat or will be useless in CQC or in preventing her Chakra points from closing. Katsuyu is irrelevant either as I have already admitted Sakura wins with her helping.

The other 2-3 are just variants of CES, which she needs to engage in CQC for.

Databook 4 extra (no stats featured): “She received the initiation at the techniques from Tsunade at first and also from her elder pupil Shizune, and grew to be the best medical Ninja in Konoha in the twinkle of an eye.”
Quotes from the manga(All VIZ translations):
"to be" lol. And medical ninjutsu has nothing to do with surpassing Tsunade's combat ability.
Hashirama,“ what monster strength! It might even be greater than Tsunade’s!”
5 y/o Tsunade lol
Sakura,“and I don’t have to waste any to maintain a youthful appearance.”
Cool? I already know this.

Kakashi,“ She may just end up a better kunochi than even lady fifth!”
Chiyo,“You’ll likely surpass your teacher.”

Tsunade,“A Kunochi inheriting the prodigal three’s power.”
Both are speaking in hypotheticals.

•twin lion fists
•8 trigrams 64 palms
•8 trigrams vacuum palm
•Gentle Step twin lion fists
•gentle fist
Which also don't list all the benefits of her Byakugan and Gentle Fists' various applications, but okay w/e lol. That's still enough to take down Sakura since all 4 of those are offensive abilities while Sakura's only offensive abilities as you showed are CES and CBI. lol? lol.


Here’s her 4th DB translation as Sakura entry, there isn’t stats entered so the previous stats in DB 3 applies

You can do maths right? 26>21

Sakura was always stronger.
True desperation is using the 3rd databook when all the examples and feats I gave of how Hinata is superior to Sakura in the war happened after that.

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Reach, Sakura could’ve reacted if her teammates didn’t,
She didn't meaning she can't.

she automatically reacted to Kaguyas chakra hand which was “very fast” according to marut so the same could’ve happened here but the undertone or theme of that chaphter was having each other’s backs.
Distance needs to be considered, just as Hinata reacted to the Juubi's hand from a distance, which is much faster than what she can reasonably handle.:lol
Anyway Sakura wasn’t in any immediate danger but if you wanna y’all about Juubi clones, how many did Hinata take out? Or even put down?

Not even 1 and she damn near broke her ankles trying.
I can tell when you've gotten upset when you start saying things like this. Take it easy.

Hinata never failed to react to a Juubi clone and was easily overwhelming it in combat, while Sakura nearly got killed. :sigar:

And? Are telling me because the hyuga as whole was assigned to protect Naruto, Hinata who wasn’t no where near the strongest or second strongest Hyuga is stronger then hinata by default?
Not by default, but it sure as hell is more of an argument to say Hinata who was assigned by Shikaku to guard the war's trump card along with the two other strongest Hyugas than to say "Sakura is stronger than Tsunade because I said so".
And you would be a even bigger troll then what you are.

Feast on the facts my dear...


1. Sakura healed Naruto and saved him from literal death. Something Hagoromo himself couldn't reverse, and something Tsunade wasn't even around for.
2. Sakura provided the chakra necessary to bring Sasuke back and save the world while Hinata was sleeping.
3. Sakura already reestablished morale within the SA.
4. Sakura was the one who put Kaguya in place for CT.
5. Sakura healed thousands of shinobi at once.
6. Sakura defeated dozens of Juubi clones.
7. Sakura healed Naruto multiple times throughout the war.
8. Sakura deduced Zetsu's transformative ability and Mokuton use.


Hinata is more skilled where?

Sakura has more feats (useful feats at that) in the war.
We are talking about combat feats exclusively. Please get your insecurities out of here

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Yes it does, Byakugou a enhances the users intire physicality and their jutsu as well.
lol So now you're just pushing fanfictions? Where was Byakugo's amazing boost to speed when Kabuto was toying with Tsunade? Actually, where was it even hinted that Byakugo enhances speed/reflexes? It's called the STRENGTH of a hundred seal for a reason.

Is that your only countered?

It would take time for Sakura to make the poison?

I say she’ll already have it made.
That wasnt the only argument I gave, but you seemed to have ignored everything else?
 
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Lmao I’ve already got this argument, I’m not entertaining you or the four other members who think hinata can beat Sakura. I’ve countered every single one of your points over and over again then over again so I’m going to leave you with th this.

Sakura>Hinata based on rank feats, stats, relevance or anything else you can think of. Sakura is superior to Hinata no matter how you look at it. (2) whether you like it or not Tsunade was surpassed by Sakura at the age of 17 and it was then again established that she was the strongest healing ninja in the leaf while hinata was still a chunin. (3) 20 years later Sakura blitzed then shotted MS user who bested both Naruto & Sasuke, while hinata has no type of feat to compete with that no where in the manga or anime. (4) Sakura was always stronger then hinata before & after the war according to the stats and she only got stronger after being promoted while hinata retired.

I’m sorry but it’s always going to be Sakura>Hinata, only you and 5-6 others believe differently. Accept defeat or be salty, your choice.

Sakura>Hinata.
 
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