Sakura grabs Hinata and bludgeons her against the ground. She dosen’t even need to land a hit, she’s considerably faster and the fastest opponents Hinata has landed a direct hit on was a juubi clone so she fosen’t have to worry about being tagged. Either that or she outlasts her, summons Katsuyu on top of her, nukes the field and leaves Hinata’s body in a huge crater.
Sakura is a jonin, a kage leveled shinobi and in the same tier as the sannin while Hinata despite all this commotion has never been promoted beyond chunnin. Sakura surpassed a sannin, the hokage and the world’s strongest kunoichi as a teenager in the 3rd war. The Last solidified that she inherited the power & Knowlage of a sannin (Tsunade) after having already been said to surpass Tsunade, thus taking it a step further. Saying Hinata is stronger then Sakura is saying she’s comparable to Tsunade, Orochimaru or Jiraiya when she has no feats to make such a conclusion. Doesn’t mean Hinata is weak or that she couldn’t keep up but she’s not stronger then Sakura period, case closed.
Sakura is a jonin, a kage leveled shinobi and in the same tier as the sannin while Hinata despite all this commotion has never been promoted beyond chunnin. Sakura surpassed a sannin, the hokage and the world’s strongest kunoichi as a teenager in the 3rd war. The Last solidified that she inherited the power & Knowlage of a sannin (Tsunade) after having already been said to surpass Tsunade, thus taking it a step further. Saying Hinata is stronger then Sakura is saying she’s comparable to Tsunade, Orochimaru or Jiraiya when she has no feats to make such a conclusion. Doesn’t mean Hinata is weak or that she couldn’t keep up but she’s not stronger then Sakura period, case closed.
Implying Sakura can even make Orochimaru or Jiriaya shed a single sweat drop?
You saying Sakura surpassed Tsunade without feats then turning around and accusing Hinata fans of doing that is pretty hypocritical. And yeah, from what we've seen, Hinata isn't stronger than Sakura with her boss summon, but it's different without it since the fight will boil down to CQC.
I said without his genetics, you wouldn't be wanking Hashiram. All of Hashirama's abilities is because of genetics and Ashura's chakra.
It's because she's Senju lineage that she's able to use medical ninjutsu better than anyone else in the first place and has a great deal of strength.
Byakugan being genetic means that it's a bloodline limit. Bloodline limit means that you are genetically better than the average shinobi, so of course the Hyuga clan's bloodline limit and secret arts make them the expert in physical art. It's like arguing that the Sharingan/Mangekyo Sharingan/EMS can be surpassed in terms of genjutsu power or that the Rinnegan can be surpassed in Ninjutsu.
Byakugan=Taijutsu highest level
Sharingan=Genjutsu highest level
Rinnegan=Ninjutsu highest level
These things are obvious even Lee said that the Hyuga are superior in Taijutsu
Lmao this so linear. You're saying Hyuga have a more flawless taijutsu style yet you're not inquiring why it's so.
It's because Hyuga's use GF. GF is a bypassing technique; which doesn't use brute force so durability is useless against a gf user. Doesn't mean Hinata has better 'taijutsu' when taijutsu is not taijutsu 'style' and it never equated to said terminology. Sakura is far better in CQC by feat's and this is Adult Sakura so you've seen her stomping Shin with some what? 7 Mangekyou's in his head?
No I'm not kidding you, hype is just bullshit. Feats are everything! That's why you don't have Madara vs Ino/Shikamaru match ups because none of them have the power of busting mountain peaks like Madara's feats did.
That doesn't literally make sense tho' if Madara can cut mountains, Shikamaru and ino is the best combo if he hasn't brought out perfect SusanoO already. Shadow bind binds him and takes away his free will whilst Ino mind takeovers him. Game closed. Together bar Perfect SusanoO if you go only by abilities without a molecular impact of hype; this is what'll happen and in this verse; hype is essential important; sometimes more than even concrete feats.
You believe stupid hypes so much that you started going around saying Hashirama can beat shinobi's that are way out of his league just because of a stupid hype title called "god of all shinobis." Hiruzen had that title too and he still got his ass whooped. Hiruzen was even hyped by Kabuto for being stronger than Ohonki, Ay, Rasa, and Yagura yet we all know that it's all bullshit thanks to feats. Hype is USELESS. FEATS>>>>>HYPE!!!
Sakura is not more durable than Ay, stop playing too much.
You're literally saying this when Hashirama retracts your statement of her not being more durable. You got to know that 'might' be is actually thier way of saying 'she is stronger'. Because Hashirama seeing her first time and if he has to get impressed to put her above over single punch then that punch should outclass anything Tsunade has done uptill now. Don't argue that Hashirama was extrapolating about child Tsunade when Kakashi knew about moon size without visiting it.
No, you don't make any sense whatsoever because Hinata's speed being better than Sakura has nothing to do with Naruto or Sasuke. You'd have to be trolling or stupid to think that Sakura has any speed feats to compare to Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto and Sasuke are on par with Space-Time users, Naruto's faster than Minato and Sasuke has a teleportation that swaps him with objects instantly. Even Jyubi Madara couldn't keep up. And the fact that I said Genjutsu>Taijutsu means that the Uchiha>Hyuga
This is constant misinterpretation. Space time is not a easy get away whenever speed is discussed. Said space time has a rate at which it transports, for example Mabui's Ethereal Transportation is light speed, Minato's FTG speed is a bit faster than Raikage's top speed - Databook.
So Naruto being faster/not is irrelevant when Sakura is not Minato. Sakura has her own feats and you're going off through hype which you dislike the most, to discredit her speed; when Naruto and Sasuke are easily more hyped in said department. You said she didn't dodge the arm; like wow. She clearly dodged it, you should clearly look at how she skipped a lane, the movement marks are on panel so no excuse. Plus she reacted as denoted by exclamation. You're ignoring RSM Naruto's Shadow Xlone was Blitzed by this Kaguya version. You're also ignoring how Kaguya's Byakugan was activated when Sakura punched her; which proves she couldn't dodge at her fullest powers.
Kaguya unstable form, Juubi arms, juubi fissions, etc the list goes on.
No, you conjured up senseless scenarios that made the topic at hand irrelevant. Listen to this fact.
Hashirama never said that Sakura is stronger than Tsunade and to think that you'd have to be unhinged. All he said is that her physical strength MIGHT be greater than Tsunade.
Debris splash≠Actual Shockwave btw
Addressed above. Dunno what you mean by the last sentence.
If I've to use your logic, SS would be deflected by air palm because Hinata's getting free entry without feats here.
That senseless logic of yours would only work if Sakura's CES is equal to Shinsusenju's in strength, which is not. So what you're saying again doesn't make any sense. You played yourself
Lmao. Obviously it isn't as strong as SS, why I brought it is to imply an analogy nothing else. My point, let me size it up a bit, Hinata doesn't have feats so you can suggest she can deflect her Punch which'd deflect air palm back to her.
This thing doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense whatsoever. What's even more senseless and incoherent is that you claim that a medical ninjutsu byakugo which can only be used by STORING CHAKRA does not use CHAKRA at all. Think about that for a second because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
You're not understanding how Byakugo works. It indeed stores chakra yet what it does is not equivalent to what it does in battle. The stored chakra are used to stimulate proteins and enzymes which'd accelerate cell division which is due to grasping and fueling said castor with Physical energy to increase thier Power. Which is what I've been saying to you for the thousanth time.
It's an image of Lee beating Sasuke, Gaara, a couple of chuunin proctors, and Kakashi saying that Lee is too fast. Since you claimed that everyone can keep up with Lee during the Chuunin exam.
Okay saw it; you're right but you should consider the fact Neji posesses the divine blood of Hyuga's ancestor so you should take into factor his Byakugan is the best one in Hyuga clan. Also, part 1 lee's feats have no bearing on Adult Sakura.
The manga showed both Lee and 3 tomoe Kakashi follow Lee's movements. Him being amazed is just a baseless speculation since he said that 5th Gates can only get you a pyrrhic victory.
Yes she has that power if I look at it in another perspective; but you should know that Hinata herself says its too fast in her mind. Juubi arms are leagues lesser than Sakura in speed. So if she had that difficulty in striking said arms; imagine how much she'll suffer to land a strike; even attempt to; against Sakura.
Her not having better feats immediately counters anything she possesses in current arsenal.
1. Never said she was stronger then any of the previous Saninn, I said that she like Tsunade is comparable to them. Which is something you can’t dispute becuase she factually inherited the power of Tsunade; Tsunades power was comparable to the other saninn.
2. I don’t need to post feats for me to factually say she surpassed Tsunadebecuase whether you like it or not the manga & it’s DB says Sakura surpassed Tsunade. Yes I wish she had the adequate feats to match because it would shut you up but nevertheless the fact remains.
3. Nothing I posted is hypothetical, I’ll back it up with straight facts of need be.
1. Never said she was stronger then any of the previous Saninn, I said that she like Tsunade is comparable to them. Which is something you can’t dispute becuase she factually inherited the power of Tsunade; Tsunades power was comparable to the other saninn.
But inheriting power doesn't mean inheritting it on the same level, case in point, as shown by Naruto inheritting Kushina's and Hagoromo's powers. And that's speaking of genetics and time-travelling sages, not between a teacher and student. So Sakura may have inheritted Tsuande's abilities, but that doesn't mean they are close to one another. Like Konohamaru and Naruto (even excluding Sage Mode/Kurama/Hagoromo powers).
2. I don’t need to post feats for me to factually say she surpassed Tsunadebecuase whether you like it or not the manga & it’s DB says Sakura surpassed Tsunade. Yes I wish she had the adequate feats to match because it would shut you up but nevertheless the fact remains.
I've only ever seen it said she surpassed Shizune, where was it said she surpassed Tsunade? The War Arc shows Tsunade fresh out of death's door healing Shikamaru in an instant when Sakura with a Chakra Cloak failed to do so even with Naruto subconsciously helping her. You say adequate feats? They're clearly on Tsunade's side when it comes to medical ninjutsu, as I exampliefied, and this is further cemented when it is Tsunade who prepares Naruto's artificial arm, and medical ninjutsu is something Sakura is supposed to specialize in, so what makes you think she can even compare to Tsunade's combat power when she has no feats to speak of?
3. Nothing I posted is hypothetical, I’ll back it up with straight facts of need be.
Irrelevant and you are well aware of this. You Sakura fans back in the day were arguing Neji VS Sakura when she was still a Chunnin and he was a Jonin, so don't go starting this two faced meaningless nonsense again. Even nowadays you argue Sakura VS Chojuro and Sakura VS Kurotsuchi.
More feats would matter if this wasn't a bad match up for Sakura. Sasori and Hidan both have more feats than Sakura, but simply because of Sakura's current traits, she has an easy advantage over opponents who are realistically far more skilled than her.
Not relevant when Gentle Fist renders CES not usable.
Maybe so, but given Hinata's feats in The Last, being she kept up with puppets that were overwhelming Hiashi and Naruto in CQC, it isn't enough of a gap to just say it's a sure-fire answer to defeating Hinata. And she performed all that without her Byakugan as well, which would enhance her reflexes.
Intelligence isn't relevant until you can show a situation where Sakura has used this intelligence against a taijutsu user rather than a puppet user.
Problem with logic is that Sakura can use Tsunades techniques on Tsunades level, case in point Byakugou’s regeneration. They both have used the the same technique, to do the same thing and each had the same outcome of being fully regenerated.
To shut you down further, name one thing Tsunade did when she was at her strongest (Kages Vs. Madara) that Sakura couldn’t do the minute she opened seal til now. You can’t name one...
And that's speaking of genetics and time-travelling sages, not between a teacher and student. So Sakura may have inheritted Tsuande's abilities, but that doesn't mean they are close to one another
“And grew to be the best medical ninja in kohona in the blink of an eye ”
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“Strongest or best (depending on your hypocrisy) Healing Ninja of the hidden leaf. Inherited the will, power and knowledge of her master Tsunade."
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Why do you always contradict yourself though?
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The War Arc shows Tsunade fresh out of death's door healing Shikamaru in an instant when Sakura with a Chakra Cloak failed to do so even with Naruto subconsciously helping her.
Tsunade was not fresh out of deaths door, Karin has already restored her chakra & Strength or are you not reading the manga?
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Sakura didn’t fail to heal Shikamaru just just didn’t do it as fast but that’s not a take away becuase a chaphter later Sakura has to go in Tsunades place to keep Naruto alive becuase she couldn’t.
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So are willing to give Tsunade the same critique? She couldn’t keep naruto alive herself but she sent Sakura because Sakura could or you to blinded with hate to chomprehend that?
I said Sakura didn’t have the adequate feats to back back up the fact that she surpassed Tsunade before you did and even without that being said Sakura still surpassed her factually.
It is a fact that Sakura surpassed Tsunade, read the facts above.
They're clearly on Tsunade's side when it comes to medical ninjutsu, as I exampliefied, and this is further cemented when it is Tsunade who prepares Naruto's artificial arm, and medical ninjutsu is something Sakura is supposed to specialize in, so what makes you think she can even compare to Tsunade's combat power when she has no feats to speak of?
Sakura has all of Tsunades medical knowlage, ability & strengths FACTUALLY which means anything Tsunade can do Sakura can do as well. Now as I said way before you did, feats would’ve been nice because it would shut people like you up but it she is still superior to Tsunade nevertheless.
So to answer you question, if we used the facts of
“And grew to be the best medical ninja in kohona in the blink of an eye ”
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“Strongest or best (depending on your hypocrisy) Healing Ninja of the hidden leaf. Inherited the will, power and knowledge of her master Tsunade."
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Yes she does compare
Feats would’ve been nice but a fact is a fact!
You just finished saying "I don't need to post feats" and "I wish she had more adequate feats". You are indeed speaking in hypotheticals right now.
Hinata being a chunin & Sakura being a elite ninja in addition to the fact that Sakura was stronger then Hinata before being promoted just means shes more skilled & experienced then Hinata all the way around. Skills and experience don’t matter now?
You Sakura fans back in the day were arguing Neji VS Sakura when she was still a Chunnin and he was a Jonin,
I’ve never made such an argument so this part of your response is irrelevant but since you brought Neji up... he's the one who has a better chance of beating Sakura, way better then Hinata’s chance.
so don't go starting this two faced meaningless nonsense again. Even nowadays you argue Sakura VS Chojuro and Sakura VS Kurotsuchi.
You call it nonsense becuase you can’t counter my arguments lol
Being a Jonin qualifies you to become a kage
I’ve made my point many times over again.. Sakura is faster, stronger, smarter, more agile and has more stamina then hinata but to top it off she has more feats. Sakura clearly is the superior ninja no matter how much you undermine her and dismiss facts. Saying Hinata can beat Sakura is like saying she can beat Tsunade and Hinata isn’t in the same stratosphere as Tsunade.
And yes a poison kunai negs Hinata, remember what it did to Naruto?
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But let me guess, hinata has some magical Humura granted ability that makes her immune to poisons right? Or she can just fly away.
Talking about originality and yet has to paste over and over again a fan translated Databook (probably coming from Reddit since you faps like to go there).
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