Sm MinatO Vs Pain
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SM Minato is featless and he pretty admits his SM is trash, preta absorbs chakra and ftg mark is made from chakra it can be absorbed and nullified via that method. Nagato takes him relatively easily if he's not nerfed.
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He's undead but the bodies fall the same way a regular one would. Preta got knocked unconscious and how many Pain's got whacked by Naruto's Rasengan?
OT - Pain wins, only because of Deva path.
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He can get damaged by forceful chakra base attacks such as rasengan and chidori but he can't get destroyed by kunai knives considering the fact that his body is mutilated by Six path black weapons which>>>> A simple kunai knife.
Ebisu used one on Jigokudo and it didn't damage/destroy his body, it only just loosen his grip.
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That's not true at all. The rods aren't only mutilating tools, they're chakra manipulators which are used to control the bodies in itself through Nagato, as we saw what happened to Naruto when he was impaled by some. The chakra rods are imbued into them, they aren't stabbed into them in an offensive attack. To say he wouldn't be affected by a kunai slash is wrong, not sure how you've come to that conclusion tbh because you made that Ebisu thing up. If that were the case he wouldn't of used Bansho Ten'in to deflect Kakashi's Kunai attack and Konohamaru managed to wound the path to save Ebisu's life;
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but Gedo arts brought him/her back as "Pain." They were not revived as themselves but as an extension of Nagato's conscious, their body is still cold, mutilated, and they do not feel physical pain like a living being. That's why they are undead because they are not completely alive.So yes they are repaired like "
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not killed. That's why Pain was said to be immortal in the 3rd Databook because Pain the 6 bodies are just undead bodies that can't be killed and can be revived all over again when they are too damaged to fight again.
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Yeah but they can be put to a coma and immobilized by cutting off neck/arm. Only Path resistant to such is Ashara Path, which relies on mechanical warfare.
Preta knocked out by hard blow. Cant Minato spread Ftg all over battlefield and teleport to fro confusing Pain? SM increases his senses perception, he can dodge Ashara's missilites and pressure's PP in CQC with The Raijin's Blade, whichs capable of penetrating through Raikage's Raiton Armoury, if Bee hadnt rescued with tail interception.
How'll pain intercept him when he can squeeze through Space Time consistently without stoppage?
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They can't be put into a coma if they are already dead also being immobilized or cut of neck/arm is called being "broken" like Nagato himself stated. Ashura path is still an organic undead body so logic still applied. In fact he was broken by the smallest rasengan of the bunch.
Gakido was broken due to natural energy, it wasn't just a simple punch it was Sage Frog Fist. Pain has shared vision so even if the knives are scattered all over the battlefield a sneak attack isn't working.
Minato never pierced Ay's Lightning style armour either, Bee's striking speed intercepted Minato's slice.
The central pain manipulates magnetic forces, correct? So What is minato going to do when Pain decides to clear the battlefield with Shiinra tensei? Do you know what would happen to the FTG knives?
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The only actual offense Pain has in this matchup is CT and unkillable summons. None of Deva's underlings can intercept Minato due to his speed, and literally none of them(Pain included) can tank a single hit. Even Almighty Push shouldn't be too much of a problem for Minato. He can close the distance to Pain after an Almighty Push and avoid it with teleportation. The real problem is their shared vision. Minato is no Itachi and his kunai aren't slipping past multiple Rinnegan users.
Minato low dif, but gg if Pain gets the chance to use CT.
Minato low dif, but gg if Pain gets the chance to use CT.
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I'm aware of all of this but mutilation doesn't mean that its stabbed into the body, "imbued" is another term for it too. Point is that they have a rods protruding out of their body so what is a kunai knife going to do that a Six path black weapon hasn't done?
I didn't make anything up, Pain was undamaged by the kunai knife otherwise he wouldn't of been able to hold up Konohamaru with that very same hand that was stabbed. Pain bansho tenin Kakashi because its Kakashi, he's the danger. You're acting like Kakashi never put lightning blade a knife before.
An inexperienced Killer Bee from the 3rd Shinobi War reacted and intercepted FTG twice. Edo Nagato at his weakest state blitzed a perfect Jinchuriki Killer Bee. By that analogy, shared vision has no problem reacting FTG. Deva Path solos low difficulty.
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You're completely missing the point. At the time the rods were imbued into the pains, they were already dead. They never felt pain because they weren't alive. The rods act as a reanimation medium for Nagato to surge his chakra and control them the same way he was intercepting Naruto's chakras when he stabbed him during their fight.
Undamaged/=/durable. These are characters who take immense amounts of damage from overwhelming jutsus, a Kunai, while capable of stabbing, isn't going to be the be all end all in a fight. Pain was obviously damaged otherwise he wouldn't of let go Ebisu in the first place and you can see blood protruding from his arm. Him picking up Konohamaru means absolutely nothing, he had some minor wounds and he's a little ass kid. Kakashi wasn't using lightning blade on his Kunai, look at the scan. He was literally inches away from Pain's cloak and Pain had to respond with Bansho Ten'in.
By your logic, blunt force damage should also be tanked but we saw Pain blocking and parrying shots from base Naruto and Preta getting knocked unconscious. Not even sure what you're arguing here to be honest, you're just making things up for the sake of arguing. Pain can obviously be stabbed and hurt like a regular being. You've misinterpreted the significance of the chakra rods and what they stand for.
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Ive noticed that Pain cannot operate with one of thier limbs broken. Asura path got its body crushed by Nikuda senshaa yet he only stood up barely. He got pierced by raikiri and he could only send a missile with mental reactions and not use his body to chase choji. Being undead has context here it doesnt mean if a head or arm gets chopped off the bodyll be able to function appropriately. Minato chopping the arm or leg is good strategy.
He is about to pierce Raiton cloak when bee intercepted with tail. If kunai cant pierce through he wouldnt have used it. Means it pierces through pain body.
Minato tanks the first ST by accumulating NE in his body whichs proven to increase Durability greatly. Then uses time limit to pierce deva with flying raijin two which not even A could counter whose reactions surpass any one of pain. He could leave marking on them to attack later if they dont immobilize instantly. Though i dont think itd reach this state.
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Minato could continuously teleport to Pain or one of his Paths if he'd marked any of them by then, which is pretty likely given that they're relatively slow as hell.