Naruto w/o Kurama Chakra | ¿Much Weaker?

[kiiro]

¿Much Weaker?

Naruto has great chakra levels as part Uzumaki. And will have less than now, not only because he can't use Kurama's chakra, but because the seal makes Kurama's chakra leap to Naruto's and get mixed automatically.

But, first of all lets see how he grew.

1.- He wouldn't be able to learn as fast to summons Boss Frogs as he needed Kurama's chakra for it. He will learn it and also have the chakra for it but it will take him more time but not as much as Sakura that summon Katsuya for the first time in war.

2.- Rasengan, I see him doing the same way in the same time. No help from Kurama.

3.- Futon Tecnics and Rasen Shuriken would have taken more time since Naruto used Kurama's chakra to make a clon for each leaf from a tree. Now that would be impossible. Maybe 10 or 100 times longer. Maybe years for it.

4.- Sage mode, I can see him being a little more faster since Pa con fused with him making it much easy. Eventually he can then also accomplish Futon Rasen Shuriken but in much longer time.

5.- Chakra Control, Naruto wont have the chakra control he had in the war. Without him I dont believe he would accomplish that soon or maybe he wouldnt be able.

So Naruto would be much weaker. But maybe have different jutsus or different strengths

I can see him to accomplish the same level he had before being frieds with Kurama but it much longer time. Maybe at his 20's and still accomplish a higher level than all in the village to become Hokage since he will still polish his skills to expert level.

Maybe he could study Fuinjutsu.

¿What do you think?

 

[Jiren]

Well obviously Naruto would be a lot weaker without Kurama, but this is obvious.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Naruto would probably get 27 Noh mask to use as well.

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[Nick01]

Obviously he'd be weaker than his current self. However he'd still be OP.

For one his CC wouldn't be nearly as bad as it was in part 1.

He'd still possess above average reserves.

He'd diversify his arsenal at a much earlier stage.

Assuming his parents live, he could inherit FTG and Rasengan from his Dad, and a variety of Uzumaki sealing techs from his Mom.

Etc etc.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

He’d be “much weaker” than what bsm is capable of but still up there. Assuming he’d never had kurama he’d probably done better in the academy from the get go and learned a lil quicker. He’d probably be at that level where he’d be known(like kakashi or the sannin), just nowhere near what a full powered bsm would be capable of

 

[Belserion]

From high god tier to high Kage at best. Which is still awesome.

 

[Greatness23]

he'd still be the strongest kage, just not Godly like he is. Kurama makes him untouchable to 99% of people. Without kurama it;d be 86

 

[LordRaikage]

because of naruto's determination........to be better than sasuke.....he would be either the same level he is now(above sasuke) or stronger.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Naruto's entire growth and development was focused around taming Kurama. So much so that Jiraiya focused only on that during the 2 years time skip with Naruto learning little to nothing in terms of ninjutsu.

Now if he wasn't a jin then he'd have focused more on learning different jutsu techs including FTG, Perfect SM with Maa and Paa fused providing almost non stop flow of chakra and even uzumaki seals cuz from Kushina and Minato.

So overall he'd still be at the level where he ended up by the end of the manga and be a very powerful ninja almost all throughout the manga.

 

[kiiro]

Naruto's entire growth and development was focused around taming Kurama. So much so that Jiraiya focused only on that during the 2 years time skip with Naruto learning little to nothing in terms of ninjutsu.

Now if he wasn't a jin then he'd have focused more on learning different jutsu techs including FTG, Perfect SM with Maa and Paa fused providing almost non stop flow of chakra and even uzumaki seals cuz from Kushina and Minato.

So overall he'd still be at the level where he ended up by the end of the manga and be a very powerful ninja almost all throughout the manga.

Well Naruto in the time skip did get more mature, learned about genjutsu, more control of his chakra, better control of summons, better at taijutsu and other things that might not seem true. Also the kyubi part where Jiraiya was useless amd he never learned from him.

 

[Styles]

He would be Minato's level or a bit weaker due to Minato being smarter and having better battle sense.

 

[Uverdore9]

He would be weaker than minato and tiers down below in strength and speed to Sakura. Sasuke would outshine him as well.

 

[take it easy]

Without Kurama he still had RSM and would be Ashura reincarnation.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

Naruto has fought without Kurama before and has done well. I think base Naruto is heavily underrated on this forum.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Without ever having Kurama he would only be able to summon mid sized frogs at best.

He would take far longer learning rasengan since he wouldn't have Kurama chakra, endurance, healing capacity allowing him to push his limits.

Since he's meant to be Ashura he'd be worse than average and would've taken a lot longer to learn how to use wind chakra. Rasen shuriken is definitely out of the question.

Sagemode can be learnt by somebody with kakashi level reserves so without Kurama if he had that level then he'd be able to learn it. However he'd run out of chakra quite fast and not be able to take maximum advantage like Jiraiya was able to do so.

Controlling the large volume of chakra was down to him being a Kurama Jin from birth and inheriting KUshinas special chakra. Without it he wouldn't be able to accomplish such feats.

Imo he'd likely have a different fighting style although being Ashura wouldn't work in his favour making his life far more difficult than it already is.

 

[Jinrou]

Like you said, he would still have above average chakra reserves so he's definitely still learning SM. His overall development would be faster seeing as the fox's influence was messing with his CC in p1 iirc.

That plus fuuinjutsu that was feared enough for a whole village to be targeted and eradicated makes me believe although not God tier like he is currently, he would still be a very high close to God tier Kage tier Shinobi.

 

[Guntah]

Its easy to forget Naruto has a permanent Rikudo boost to him regardless of Kurama. There's a reason why he was doing better than any of the other Kage did against Momoshiki in base alone. That assuming we're talking about current Naruto, not Naruto from day one which...to be honest, its a pointless discussion. Its such a detrimental change to the story itself that its impossible to keep proper track of it after a while.

 

[Guntah]

Without ever having Kurama he would only be able to summon mid sized frogs at best.

If Minato or Jiraiya were able to summon Gamabunta, then Naruto, still Ashura's transmigrate and part of a clan renown for their chakra, would definitely be able to do so by his mid to late teens.

 

[salamander uchiha]

If Minato or Jiraiya were able to summon Gamabunta, then Naruto, still Ashura's transmigrate and part of a clan renown for their chakra, would definitely be able to do so by his mid to late teens.

Not going to happen bro, and reaching doesn't support your case. Being an Ashura incarnate without kurama makes Naruto low tier thays his biggest short coming.

 

[Guntah]

Not going to happen bro, and reaching doesn't support your case. Being an Ashura incarnate without kurama makes Naruto low tier thays his biggest short coming.

So if you remove the character's main source of power, he's gonna be much, much weaker?

Huh.

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But I digress, that's not the point I'm arguing. If Minato and Jiraiya were able to summon Gamabunta by themselves, then Naruto should too, and far more easily so in fact. Especially if he gets a boost from Hagoromo here too.