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What if God pulling a rib out of Adam to make Eve is really an explanation of an electron being removed from an atom to explain the begining of creation?

Then I think that God needs to be less metaphorical.
 

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Oh but science is a hive mind where it matters, at the top and no scientist climbs that ladder without joining that have.

Thats not ignorance my friend. Thats the world we live in. Unless you have eyes wide shut.

No use in circular arguing with the rest. Ive done my research and rest well with what I know.

You clearly haven't.
 

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Oh but science is a hive mind where it matters, at the top and no scientist climbs that ladder without joining that have.

Thats not ignorance my friend. Thats the world we live in. Unless you have eyes wide shut.

No use in circular arguing with the rest. Ive done my research and rest well with what I know.

Dont bother arguing with marxists, they are blind.
 

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John the disciple of Jesus predicted 666 number in seats of The Legendary European Union. I'm sure you god repelling people can't give me an answer for that. Did John use Magic to predict that if you believe that and coincidently the words of that magical prophecy was in the Bible then Okay.

You gave no evidence, you posted a link to a known fraud that have been proven to lie about his findings.

You've proof the 666 finding's a fraud. It's prophesied in the Bible coincidently.
 
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Then I think that God needs to be less metaphorical.


But the metaphor would have been alot easier for the masses like Lightbringer to understand in that time period understand at that level while allowing a more evolved public of a future generation to see past the veil and understand its true meaning.

Btw this is in no way me making an argument for a god being. Just referring to the information itself, not its author.

You've proof the 666 finding's a fraud. It's prophesied in the Bible coincidently.

666 is just referring to the number 9 symbolically. 9 represents the consciousness of man. Check this out.

The number of a man “the beast” 6+6+6=18,1+8=9
144,000 remnant saved 1+4+4=9
Cast your net to the right. “Caught 153 fish” 1+5+3=9

Just gotta look deeper. None of that stuff is literal.
 
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But the metaphor would have been alot easier for the masses like Lightbringer to understand in that time period understand at that level while allowing a more evolved public of a future generation to see past the veil and understand its true meaning.

Btw this is in no way me making an argument for a god being. Just referring to the information itself, not its author.

If God was almighty, then he'd be able to clarify his message in a way for all to understand without having to create confusing and contradicting metaphors.

You give humans way too little credit. Mankind is just as smart as they were before as they are now. We just have more information of our world, but they still were just as intelligent. Archimedes, for example, created a mathematical formula that would estimate how many grains of sand could fit into a universe. Many complex philosophies, mathematics, and ideas originated from ancient people.

If the entire bible was a metaphor, then it's a useless piece of text since it gives no fundamental insight into the world. There has been no scientific discovery that originated from the texts alone. It's in reverse; the discovery is made and then people try to reinterpret the metaphors to fit within that narrative due to the vague nature of the texts.
 
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If God was almighty, then he'd be able to clarify his message in a way for all to understand without having to create confusing and contradicting metaphors.

You give humans way too little credit. Mankind is just as smart as they were before as they are now. We just have more information of our world, but they still were just as intelligent. Archimedes, for example, created a mathematical formula that would estimate how many grains of sand could fit into a universe. Many complex philosophies, mathematics, and ideas originated from ancient people.

If the entire bible was a metaphor, then it's a useless piece of text since it gives no fundamental insight into the world. There has been no scientific discovery that originated from the texts alone. It's in reverse; the discovery is made and then people try to reinterpret the metaphors to fit within that narrative due to the vague nature of the texts.[/QUOTE

Guess that was over your head. Let me help you out a little. The fortunate minority had more knowledge in my opinion than we do today but the common man on the other is a different story. They didn’t have the access to education so many of us have today and they were’t as well nurished which plays a major role in iq.
My point focussed on the common person who occult information was kept from for multiple reasons. One being their inability to understand advance concepts with no education, another being that knowledge is power and the more information you can keep from people the easier it is to control them. The few outside the circle that could find the meaning behind the allegory or symbolism were typically initiated. Consider it a litmus test of sorts. No point giving pearls to swine.

Hope that helps to enlighten you though I doubt it.
 

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If God was almighty, then he'd be able to clarify his message in a way for all to understand without having to create confusing and contradicting metaphors.

You give humans way too little credit. Mankind is just as smart as they were before as they are now. We just have more information of our world, but they still were just as intelligent. Archimedes, for example, created a mathematical formula that would estimate how many grains of sand could fit into a universe. Many complex philosophies, mathematics, and ideas originated from ancient people.

If the entire bible was a metaphor, then it's a useless piece of text since it gives no fundamental insight into the world. There has been no scientific discovery that originated from the texts alone. It's in reverse; the discovery is made and then people try to reinterpret the metaphors to fit within that narrative due to the vague nature of the texts.[/QUOTE

Guess that was over your head. Let me help you out a little. The fortunate minority had more knowledge in my opinion than we do today but the common man on the other is a different story. They didn’t have the access to education so many of us have today and they were’t as well nurished which plays a major role in iq.
My point focussed on the common person who occult information was kept from for multiple reasons. One being their inability to understand advance concepts with no education, another being that knowledge is power and the more information you can keep from people the easier it is to control them. The few outside the circle that could find the meaning behind the allegory or symbolism were typically initiated. Consider it a litmus test of sorts. No point giving pearls to swine.

Hope that helps to enlighten you though I doubt it.

You just gave a pointless word-salad. Your point was that God made metaphors because people were too dumb to understand anything more than that.

I literally addressed this in my last comment. Whatever, you keep drinking the kool-aid.
 

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You just gave a pointless word-salad. Your point was that God made metaphors because people were too dumb to understand anything more than that.

I literally addressed this in my last comment. Whatever, you keep drinking the kool-aid.

I never said that God said anything. Go back and read the original post. Humans wrote the book. There was no God involved. I assume then that its your reading comprehension that has you so lost in this conversation.
 

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If God was almighty, then he'd be able to clarify his message in a way for all to understand without having to create confusing and contradicting metaphors.

You give humans way too little credit. Mankind is just as smart as they were before as they are now. We just have more information of our world, but they still were just as intelligent. Archimedes, for example, created a mathematical formula that would estimate how many grains of sand could fit into a universe. Many complex philosophies, mathematics, and ideas originated from ancient people.

If the entire bible was a metaphor, then it's a useless piece of text since it gives no fundamental insight into the world. There has been no scientific discovery that originated from the texts alone. It's in reverse; the discovery is made and then people try to reinterpret the metaphors to fit within that narrative due to the vague nature of the texts.

The bible states "Man will never build his resting place(house) in the sky nor in the deep sea". Has this statement gone wrong despite science devoloping so hard as you say. You're not willing to accept explanations because you can't accept God indeed exists but your pride and ego gets in your way to admitting it.
 
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