How strong is Adult Naruto without Kurama?

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Useless like Kakashi without his sharingan.
 

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Probably edo minato level, but not as smart.
The manga would pull some crap like this if Naruto where to lose Kurama.
The same way Gaara became stronger
 

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Excuse me?

Probably edo minato level, but not as smart.
The manga would pull some crap like this if Naruto where to lose Kurama.
The same way Gaara became stronger
Even without kurama Naruto is still ashura incarnate, he'd be very powerful and still defeated sasuke. As the protagonist/MC, his power is absolute. :sigar:
 

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It took him way too long to tame Kurama, within this gap he perfected his own power, so he would be above average that's for sure. Let's remember Kakashi's statement here:

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I may be wrong but I think that Uzumaki clan members can have large amount of chakra, let's take Nagato as an example, he gave out his own chakra to all the 6 Pains. I think that Karin's healing technique requires a lot of chakra too.

It doesn't necessarily say they have large chakra reserves but kabuto says they have incredible recovery power
 

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Even without kurama Naruto is still ashura incarnate, he'd be very powerful and still defeated sasuke. As the protagonist/MC, his power is absolute. :sigar:

So he magically wood style and rikudou senjutsu without a biju? Good to know
 

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It doesn't necessarily say they have large chakra reserves but kabuto says they have incredible recovery power

That's not Uzumaki's in general that's just karins ability. Only thing they have of note is vitality and OP sealing.

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It took him way too long to tame Kurama, within this gap he perfected his own power, so he would be above average that's for sure. Let's remember Kakashi's statement here:

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I may be wrong but I think that Uzumaki clan members can have large amount of chakra, let's take Nagato as an example, he gave out his own chakra to all the 6 Pains. I think that Karin's healing technique requires a lot of chakra too.

Nagato was stated to be on Senju lineage. Him and Tsuande was the only canon one's stated to be. But Kakashi's statement is correct but let's not forget Jiraiya's statement that Naruto's chakra and Kurama's have been mixing since birth. So there is no way to know how he would be without Kurama.
There is too.
Chapter 63 in Part 1. When Naruto fought the Rain Genjutsu all night while spamming Kage Bushin. As well as transforming into Kabuto, Sasuke and Sakura, and using his shadow clones to release them from the genjutsu, so Sasuke and co could trap Oboro's team at daybreak. Naruto then beat Oboro's team by himself.

All this was accomplished after Orochimaru put the Five Pronged Seal on Naruto's belly. Where the 4 Pronged Uzumaki seal for Kurama was. This cut Naruto off from Kurama's chakra and left him with only his own Uzumaki reserves.
It doesn't necessarily say they have large chakra reserves but kabuto says they have incredible recovery power

Kabuto also says this in Chapter 63.

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So yeah, Kakashi and Kabuto got it right. Even without Kurama, Naruto would still be a tank.
 

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It doesn't necessarily say they have large chakra reserves but kabuto says they have incredible recovery power
They do have a massive quantity of chakra, according to the DB.
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He'd still be as strong or stronger then Sasuke. If you don't think the author is going to find something else to make him powerful you're delusional. Look at Sasuke.
 

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It took him way too long to tame Kurama, within this gap he perfected his own power, so he would be above average that's for sure. Let's remember Kakashi's statement here:

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I may be wrong but I think that Uzumaki clan members can have large amount of chakra, let's take Nagato as an example, he gave out his own chakra to all the 6 Pains. I think that Karin's healing technique requires a lot of chakra too.

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The root of Naruto's stamina which = chakra is the 9 tails. The same stamina he was using in the chunin exam and spamming shadow clones with etc.

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Naruto tells you the reason he has a lot of chakra is because of the Kyubi chakra he's been receiving his whole life. This is nothing to do with him mastering control of the 9 tails chakra.

Naruto fans tend to ignore facts or have selective reading skills.


There are some people who hold onto the notion of him being 1/2 Uzumaki but Kushina survived extraction after giving birth, Naruto was pretty much dead there's no comparison to the Uzumaki and they can't be used as example for him. Also the Uzumaki clan weren't stated to have large chakra reserves but longevity that is due to powerful lifeforce, if Naruto didn't have that how on earth do people think he's have so called chakra reserves even if the Uzumaki had them.

Taking everything into consideration and veing fair, Naruto would have average stamina and would be able to learn rasengan even if he's take longer. He wouldn't be able to use or spam shadow clones like he did, Hed be high chunin touching Jonin at best.
 

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The root of Naruto's stamina which = chakra is the 9 tails. The same stamina he was using in the chunin exam and spamming shadow clones with etc.

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Naruto tells you the reason he has a lot of chakra is because of the Kyubi chakra he's been receiving his whole life. This is nothing to do with him mastering control of the 9 tails chakra.

Naruto fans tend to ignore facts or have selective reading skills.


There are some people who hold onto the notion of him being 1/2 Uzumaki but Kushina survived extraction after giving birth, Naruto was pretty much dead there's no comparison to the Uzumaki and they can't be used as example for him. Also the Uzumaki clan weren't stated to have large chakra reserves but longevity that is due to powerful lifeforce, if Naruto didn't have that how on earth do people think he's have so called chakra reserves even if the Uzumaki had them.

Taking everything into consideration and veing fair, Naruto would have average stamina and would be able to learn rasengan even if he's take longer. He wouldn't be able to use or spam shadow clones like he did, Hed be high chunin touching Jonin at best.

And yet Naruto spammed shadow clones all night, after Orochimaru sealed Naruto from accessing the kyubi chakra. Not to mention Kakashi saying without Kurama, Naruto would have 4x as much chakra than himself (Kakashi).

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Also, you need large chakra reserves to become a jin in the first place. As well as to master sage mode. Without Kurama, Naruto could still master sage mode and his rasengan shuriken.

People seem to forget that up until the war arc (around chapter 550 or so), Kurama was more of a hindrance than a help.
 

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And yet Naruto spammed shadow clones all night, after Orochimaru sealed Naruto from accessing the kyubi chakra. Not to mention Kakashi saying without Kurama, Naruto would have 4x as much chakra than himself (Kakashi).

You clearly ignored the scan where Naruto confirms, Naruto has large chakra reserves because of kurama once they mix with his they're his reserves. Orochimaru didn't seal the reserves he created an imbalance in the leaking process. Naruto didn't suddenly lose all the staminachakra he'd acquired over the 13 + years prior to the 5 elements seal.

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Kakashi's referring to the Kyubi cloak and not the internal chakra Naruto received via the seal. Which mountain toad and Naruto both confirm he received from him becoming a him. I provided the scan which confirms Naruto has been receiving that his whole life.


[stikee]Also, you need large chakra reserves to become a jin in the first place. As well as to master sage mode. Without Kurama, Naruto could still master sage mode and his rasengan shuriken[/strike]

Nice fanfic

People seem to forget that up until the war arc (around chapter 550 or so), Kurama was more of a hindrance than a help.

Yes he was a big hindrance whenever Naruto needed bailing out:lmao:

Please come back with actual facts not fanfic.
 
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He would be no more powerful than kankuro. He has nothing to make him look good other than kurama who gave him 4 speed body modes and yet he's proven slower than sasuke.
 

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He'd still be as strong or stronger then Sasuke. If you don't think the author is going to find something else to make him powerful you're delusional. Look at Sasuke.

Even in his buffed state he's not near Sasuke's level but without kurama he'll be equal/stronger? Lmfao stop joking Sasuke >>>>>>>>> naruto by a light year facts ain't changing so easily tho.
 

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Even in his buffed state he's not near Sasuke's level but without kurama he'll be equal/stronger? Lmfao stop joking Sasuke >>>>>>>>> naruto by a light year facts ain't changing so easily tho.

Nice fanfic. Didn't read.
 

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DB has Uzumaki as having large stamina and chakra. So in his maturity heโ€™s still be strong as his parents. Heโ€™s probably know more fuinjutsu due to his mom and dad.
 

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They do have a massive quantity of chakra, according to the DB.
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Lmao.. Wonder the fanfics that would be made to counter this databook fact about Uzumaki's having massive chakra quantities.
 
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