Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

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Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Whenever people talk about pairing members of the main cast such as Boruto, Sarada, Mitsuki, Sumire, etc... , you always have a few people who come out with:

"Stop pairing kids!"

They say this as if these pairings are perverse or pedophilic or something to that nature.

We also get people who say that pairings ruin the series (which is also a BS statement).

Allow me to explain the following things:

1. Why the complaint "stop pairing kids" is stupid.
2. Why pairings can't possibly ruin the series.


1. For starters, when people talk about pairings such as BoruSara, BoruSumi, etc... they are generally saying that said couple should/are likely to get together in the future. They are not saying that Boruto should snag Sarada or Sumire right at this moment (or even at his current age) and take them to the bedroom! Therefore in general, nobody is advocating for any underaged inappropriate activity.

For the most part, fan pairings in series like this are based around one of two things:

1. Interactions between the characters that we see when they are younger, or...

2. Power/Genetics (in the case of some pairings like SasuKarin, SasuHina, etc...)

Now this thread is mainly about number 1.

Those of you who think that there have been no interactions in the series that hint towards possible future pairings should really read this next section in the spoiler tag. If you already acknowledge that relationships and interactions shown between certain characters (when they were children) hinted at and developed the pairing of said characters, then you may skip the spoiler (or you may read it if you want).

You people may try to claim that there are no such interactions in the series (Naruto or Boruto series) that support pairings and fan ships, but if you say that, then you are clearly missing details. 90% of part 1 Sakura's character revolved around "Sasuke kun, Sasuke kun"! There was that small percentage of her character that was about Sakura wanting to keep up with and not burden her team mates, but other than that, she was entirely about Sasuke. There was a whole chunin exams fight (Sakura vs Ino) that dedicated scenes to showing how Sakura came to "fall in love" with Sasuke, and how her and Ino's rivalry stemmed from this. She even confessed to Sasuke just before Sasuke left Konoha, and was met with a resounding "thank you (knock out)". This event actually soon led to Tsunade being informed of Sasuke's defection, and the subsequent assignment of the Sasuke retrieval mission. Years later, even at the end of the war, Sakura still professed love to Sasuke.

Now, I am not advocating for or bashing the pairing (SS) itself, but you cannot honestly deny that the above events served as some kind of interaction or development (be it positive or negative) that gave us at least the slightest hint that SS could become real in the future.

Moving on to NH, it was heavily implied (pretty much given to us) in part 1 that Hinata liked Naruto. There were also positive interactions between the two. Hinata gave Naruto ointment after his fight with Kiba. Naruto swore to avenge Hinata after Neji hurt her. Hinata told Naruto the secret about the byakugan's blind spot (which later proved invaluable against Neji), and Naruto complimented her saying that he likes girls like her. Moving on to part 2, Hinata straight out confessed to Naruto during the Pain fight, and saved him from Pain by getting stabbed (you can't deny that if Hinata hadn't gotten stabbed that Pain would have captured Naruto). Later during the war, Naruto saved Hinata from some Zetsus, pointed out that Hinata saved him twice already, and called her strong. Then Neji's death came, and Hinata restrengthened Naruto's resolve just as Naruto was about to give in to Obito. A short time later, Hinata even fixed Naruto's dislocated shoulder.

Just like with SS, you can't deny that these interactions acted as at least the slightest tease that NH would happen.

Even ShikaTema was teased at. These two have been paired together (be it in battle, during obligations like the chunin exams, during the war, etc...) so many times throughout the Naruto series. Even Naruto himself once teased them and asked if they were on a date. You cannot deny that as a hint towards the pairing.

As you can see from the spoiler tag above (or from your own mind if you already acknowledge this point), the writers themselves actually purposely encourage fan shipping by putting certain interactions, dynamics, and relationships in the manga, that hint at possible future pairings.

In fact, Kishimoto himself once said in an interview (long before the end of the series), that he himself "hoped that Naruto would return Hinata's feelings".

That statement alone says that the writers consciously and purposefully write in hints and nods towards pairings. Sumire and Sarada literally just had a conversation about women liking Boruto for crying out loud!


Therefore, if you claim that pairing fans have no hints or development to go on, then you are just being ignorant!


Now what is my point in saying all of this? Well, to bring this altogether:

Nobody who pairs these children (except for maybe a few perverse fans) are advocating for any underaged activity, and instead, these pairing fans are essentially just making predictions of the future based on hints and nods that the writers themselves clearly put into the manga for us to notice!

In other words, making pairing predictions is simply an exercise in reading comprehension and literary analysis! Therefore, if any you pairing haters bash us for pairing these kids, then you are basically just bashing us for literary analysis, and you are missing half the point of literature as a whole!

That is why the complaint "stop pairing kids" is utter BS! Nobody is really pairing "kids". We are making predictions about what pairings will come to pass in the future based on literary analysis! Are you really going to sit up there and tell us that we should just ignore the hints and foreshadowing about the future that the writers give us, and that we are perverse if we don't ignore it?

Now moving on to my second point:

2. Some people say that pairings ruin the series.

BS! BS! BS! BS! I cannot emphasize to you how stupid that is for a series such as Naruto.

If you take the time to do some rudimentary math, you'll realize that in the case of the Naruto series, pairing related material most likely influenced around 1 - 2% of the plot! Even then, most of that influence comes from Sakura's obsession with Sasuke, and since Sakura was a main character, you could really say that most of that 1 - 2% influence wasn't really pairing influence, rather it was specifically Sakura's influence. Let's look at someone else though.

Take Hinata for example. People love to bash her and use her as the symbol for pairings ruining Naruto (series), but take a minute to think about this:

Exactly, how many chapters did Hinata ever even appear in (out of 700 chapters)? Of those chapters, in how many was she actually relevant to the plot?

I can count on my hands the number of times Hinata was actually relevant to the plot (up to chapter 699):

1. Hinata vs Neji (chunin exams)
2. Hinata telling Naruto about the byakugan's blind spot.
3. She was there in the Itachi pursuit mission, but she didn't say or do anything really influential to the plot
4. Hinata saving Naruto from Pain
5. Neji's death scene

That's it! 5 times out of 700 chapters! I said that I could count on my hands, but that didn't even take both hands! That was just one hand! Even out of those 5 times, not all of those times had pairing moments. All of Hinata's other appearances in the series were just brief cameos, small irrelevant scenes that took only about a page or so, or even comic relief.


Are you really telling me that 5 brief little moments ruined the entirety of 700+ chapters?! That literally composes less than 1% of the series!

For what it's worth, it should also be noted that these sparse little moments actually moved the plot forward still, and or saved the MC. If it weren't for number 2 on my list above, then Naruto would have lost to Neji in the chunin exams. If it weren't for number 4, Naruto would have been captured by Pain. If it weren't for number 5, then Naruto may have given in to Obito.

Heck, even going back to Sakura, if it weren't for Sakura seeing off Sasuke when he defected and then telling Izumo and Kotetsu about it the next morning, then Tsunade, Kakashi and everybody else wouldn't have found out about Sasuke's defection until much later, and the events of the Sasuke retrieval arc would have been significantly altered! Naruto might not have even gone on his 2 year training with Jiraiya since he was initially inspired to go on that training journey after losing to Sasuke at VOTE 1 (since he wanted to get Sasuke back). If it weren't for Sakura seeing off Sasuke and informing someone about it, then by the time everyone found out about Sasuke's defection. Sasuke would have probably already been at Orochimaru's place and there would be no VOTE 1 or Sasuke retrieval mission since Sasuke would have been able to leave Konoha uncontested and the sound 4 wouldn't have to deal with Shikamaru's 5 man team.


As you can see, relevant pairing related moments were few and far between, and when they did occur, they were actually very important to the situation at hand!


Tell me again then, how something that doesn't even compose 5% of the series' focus ruins the entire 700+ chapter series?! Also, notice that I just touched on NH and SS. The other pairings didn't even take up any relevance in the manga. (ShikaTema was there, but they weren't being all romantic and what not).

As a final note, none of the pairings actually even became canon until the last freaking chapter! Are you people saying that one chapter ruined the whole series?! BS! This sentiment also applies back to the "stop pairing kids" BS complaint, since regardless of how many kids we pair together, none of it will probably fully come to pass until the last freaking chapter (when they most likely will be at the adult ages that you so freaking crave), and you are just being stupid if you act like you don't know that!

Discuss.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Holy f ck dude, you should probably make a tl;dr version
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Most of these people are the same one's who shipped little kids in Part 1.

Ignore them.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Good thread. +Rep.
Unfortunately to some this will fall on deaf ears.

What's more is that if the pairings discussed were to happen and there was little to no development, people would scream "forced".

Pairing kids isn't new. This has been a thing since Part one of Naruto.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Whenever people talk about pairing members of the main cast such as Boruto, Sarada, Mitsuki, Sumire, etc... , you always have a few people who come out with:

"Stop pairing kids!"

They say this as if these pairings are perverse or pedophilic or something to that nature.

We also get people who say that pairings ruin the series (which is also a BS statement).

Allow me to explain the following things:

1. Why the complaint "stop pairing kids" is stupid.
2. Why pairings can't possibly ruin the series.


1. For starters, when people talk about pairings such as BoruSara, BoruSumi, etc... they are generally saying that said couple should/are likely to get together in the future. They are not saying that Boruto should snag Sarada or Sumire right at this moment (or even at his current age) and take them to the bedroom! Therefore in general, nobody is advocating for any underaged inappropriate activity.

For the most part, fan pairings in series like this are based around one of two things:

1. Interactions between the characters that we see when they are younger, or...

2. Power/Genetics (in the case of some pairings like SasuKarin, SasuHina, etc...)

Now this thread is mainly about number 1.

Those of you who think that there have been no interactions in the series that hint towards possible future pairings should really read this next section in the spoiler tag. If you already acknowledge that relationships and interactions shown between certain characters (when they were children) hinted at and developed the pairing of said characters, then you may skip the spoiler (or you may read it if you want).

You people may try to claim that there are no such interactions in the series (Naruto or Boruto series) that support pairings and fan ships, but if you say that, then you are clearly missing details. 90% of part 1 Sakura's character revolved around "Sasuke kun, Sasuke kun"! There was that small percentage of her character that was about Sakura wanting to keep up with and not burden her team mates, but other than that, she was entirely about Sasuke. There was a whole chunin exams fight (Sakura vs Ino) that dedicated scenes to showing how Sakura came to "fall in love" with Sasuke, and how her and Ino's rivalry stemmed from this. She even confessed to Sasuke just before Sasuke left Konoha, and was met with a resounding "thank you (knock out)". This event actually soon led to Tsunade being informed of Sasuke's defection, and the subsequent assignment of the Sasuke retrieval mission. Years later, even at the end of the war, Sakura still professed love to Sasuke.

Now, I am not advocating for or bashing the pairing (SS) itself, but you cannot honestly deny that the above events served as some kind of interaction or development (be it positive or negative) that gave us at least the slightest hint that SS could become real in the future.

Moving on to NH, it was heavily implied (pretty much given to us) in part 1 that Hinata liked Naruto. There were also positive interactions between the two. Hinata gave Naruto ointment after his fight with Kiba. Naruto swore to avenge Hinata after Neji hurt her. Hinata told Naruto the secret about the byakugan's blind spot (which later proved invaluable against Neji), and Naruto complimented her saying that he likes girls like her. Moving on to part 2, Hinata straight out confessed to Naruto during the Pain fight, and saved him from Pain by getting stabbed (you can't deny that if Hinata hadn't gotten stabbed that Pain would have captured Naruto). Later during the war, Naruto saved Hinata from some Zetsus, pointed out that Hinata saved him twice already, and called her strong. Then Neji's death came, and Hinata restrengthened Naruto's resolve just as Naruto was about to give in to Obito. A short time later, Hinata even fixed Naruto's dislocated shoulder.

Just like with SS, you can't deny that these interactions acted as at least the slightest tease that NH would happen.

Even ShikaTema was teased at. These two have been paired together (be it in battle, during obligations like the chunin exams, during the war, etc...) so many times throughout the Naruto series. Even Naruto himself once teased them and asked if they were on a date. You cannot deny that as a hint towards the pairing.

As you can see from the spoiler tag above (or from your own mind if you already acknowledge this point), the writers themselves actually purposely encourage fan shipping by putting certain interactions, dynamics, and relationships in the manga, that hint at possible future pairings.

In fact, Kishimoto himself once said in an interview (long before the end of the series), that he himself "hoped that Naruto would return Hinata's feelings".

That statement alone says that the writers consciously and purposefully write in hints and nods towards pairings. Sumire and Sarada literally just had a conversation about women liking Boruto for crying out loud!


Therefore, if you claim that pairing fans have no hints or development to go on, then you are just being ignorant!


Now what is my point in saying all of this? Well, to bring this altogether:

Nobody who pairs these children (except for maybe a few perverse fans) are advocating for any underaged activity, and instead, these pairing fans are essentially just making predictions of the future based on hints and nods that the writers themselves clearly put into the manga for us to notice!

In other words, making pairing predictions is simply an exercise in reading comprehension and literary analysis! Therefore, if any you pairing haters bash us for pairing these kids, then you are basically just bashing us for literary analysis, and you are missing half the point of literature as a whole!

That is why the complaint "stop pairing kids" is utter BS! Nobody is really pairing "kids". We are making predictions about what pairings will come to pass in the future based on literary analysis! Are you really going to sit up there and tell us that we should just ignore the hints and foreshadowing about the future that the writers give us, and that we are perverse if we don't ignore it?

Now moving on to my second point:

2. Some people say that pairings ruin the series.

BS! BS! BS! BS! I cannot emphasize to you how stupid that is for a series such as Naruto.

If you take the time to do some rudimentary math, you'll realize that in the case of the Naruto series, pairing related material most likely influenced around 1 - 2% of the plot! Even then, most of that influence comes from Sakura's obsession with Sasuke, and since Sakura was a main character, you could really say that most of that 1 - 2% influence wasn't really pairing influence, rather it was specifically Sakura's influence. Let's look at someone else though.

Take Hinata for example. People love to bash her and use her as the symbol for pairings ruining Naruto (series), but take a minute to think about this:

Exactly, how many chapters did Hinata ever even appear in (out of 700 chapters)? Of those chapters, in how many was she actually relevant to the plot?

I can count on my hands the number of times Hinata was actually relevant to the plot (up to chapter 699):

1. Hinata vs Neji (chunin exams)
2. Hinata telling Naruto about the byakugan's blind spot.
3. She was there in the Itachi pursuit mission, but she didn't say or do anything really influential to the plot
4. Hinata saving Naruto from Pain
5. Neji's death scene

That's it! 5 times out of 700 chapters! I said that I could count on my hands, but that didn't even take both hands! That was just one hand! Even out of those 5 times, not all of those times had pairing moments. All of Hinata's other appearances in the series were just brief cameos, small irrelevant scenes that took only about a page or so, or even comic relief.


Are you really telling me that 5 brief little moments ruined the entirety of 700+ chapters?! That literally composes less than 1% of the series!

For what it's worth, it should also be noted that these sparse little moments actually moved the plot forward still, and or saved the MC. If it weren't for number 2 on my list above, then Naruto would have lost to Neji in the chunin exams. If it weren't for number 4, Naruto would have been captured by Pain. If it weren't for number 5, then Naruto may have given in to Obito.

Heck, even going back to Sakura, if it weren't for Sakura seeing off Sasuke when he defected and then telling Izumo and Kotetsu about it the next morning, then Tsunade, Kakashi and everybody else wouldn't have found out about Sasuke's defection until much later, and the events of the Sasuke retrieval arc would have been significantly altered! Naruto might not have even gone on his 2 year training with Jiraiya since he was initially inspired to go on that training journey after losing to Sasuke at VOTE 1 (since he wanted to get Sasuke back). If it weren't for Sakura seeing off Sasuke and informing someone about it, then by the time everyone found out about Sasuke's defection. Sasuke would have probably already been at Orochimaru's place and there would be no VOTE 1 or Sasuke retrieval mission since Sasuke would have been able to leave Konoha uncontested and the sound 4 wouldn't have to deal with Shikamaru's 5 man team.


As you can see, relevant pairing related moments were few and far between, and when they did occur, they were actually very important to the situation at hand!


Tell me again then, how something that doesn't even compose 5% of the series' focus ruins the entire 700+ chapter series?! Also, notice that I just touched on NH and SS. The other pairings didn't even take up any relevance in the manga. (ShikaTema was there, but they weren't being all romantic and what not).

As a final note, none of the pairings actually even became canon until the last freaking chapter! Are you people saying that one chapter ruined the whole series?! BS! This sentiment also applies back to the "stop pairing kids" BS complaint, since regardless of how many kids we pair together, none of it will probably fully come to pass until the last freaking chapter (when they most likely will be at the adult ages that you so freaking crave), and you are just being stupid if you act like you don't know that!

Discuss.

I'm not reading the whole thing, cause the issue isn't that complicated.

The Boruto anime, nothing much to worry about, pretty appropriate. The manga, VERY SUGGESTIVE, like he's selling ***.(pretty obvious, too)

However, you cannot use Naruto pairings as an excuse.

Naruto, the pairings were represented in the most PLATONIC manner,even till this day. Except when Naruto and Hinata became adults.

It was innocent. Stereotypical, too.

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about the anime of boruto, though. But, I feel people need to watch out for how carried away Ikememoto gets with the manga.He goes too far.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

I'm not reading the whole thing, cause the issue isn't that complicated.

The Boruto anime, nothing much to worry about, pretty appropriate. The manga, VERY SUGGESTIVE, like he's selling ***.(pretty obvious, too)

However, you cannot use Naruto pairings as an excuse.

Naruto, the pairings were represented in the most PLATONIC manner,even till this day. Except when Naruto and Hinata became adults.

It was innocent. Stereotypical, too.

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about the anime of boruto, though. But, I feel people need to watch out for how carried away Ikememoto gets with the manga.He goes too far.

The issue you are talking about as pertains to the manga however, is more so about the outfits rather than pairings themselves.

Think about it:

Without considering any outfits, what sexual activity or conversation has been carried out by any of the girls in the manga?

When it comes to actions alone (without considering outfits), the answer is none.

Even when you look at Sarada, she hasn't actually done any inappropriate actions. People mainly just have a problem with her legs being seen. If you think about her actual actions and gestures however (without thinking about attire), you'll see that in all of the panels that people complain about, she was just standing there or sitting down (not actually doing anything). Nobody would have a problem with this if it was Kishi's design, but because we see her legs, people don't like it and call it sexualized. Not to mention that none of those actions (such as standing or sitting) actually have anything to do with actual pairings and relationships.

In short, as I said above, the issue you are referring to is really just character designs rather than pairings.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

as long as they are done right.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Borusumi>>>>>>>>>BoruSara
 

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The issue you are talking about as pertains to the manga however, is more so about the outfits rather than pairings themselves.

Think about it:

Without considering any outfits, what sexual activity or conversation has been carried out by any of the girls in the manga?

When it comes to actions alone (without considering outfits), the answer is none.

Even when you look at Sarada, she hasn't actually done any inappropriate actions. People mainly just have a problem with her legs being seen. If you think about her actual actions and gestures however (without thinking about attire), you'll see that in all of the panels that people complain about, she was just standing there or sitting down (not actually doing anything). Nobody would have a problem with this if it was Kishi's design, but because we see her legs, people don't like it and call it sexualized. Not to mention that none of those actions (such as standing or sitting) actually have anything to do with actual pairings and relationships.

In short, as I said above, the issue you are referring to is really just character designs rather than pairings.

Don't care.

Bottom line is, he sells ***. Clothes or not. And he presents child female characters in a flirtatious manner on top of being sexualized with mini skirts and high heels trying to direct attention to their PRIVATE PARTS.Cause that's the goal.

With a manga like that, something perverted is more likely to happen.But, you're right, no sexually suggestive pairings have been made...yet. But you kind of didn't get my point.

And it being an "attire"...is not an excuse. It's ALL suggestive.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

I'm not surprised people keep saying that even though they don't mean it THAT kind of way, just scroll through and pretend nothing ever happened and let their insecurities take over.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Hmm, it’s pretty dead so I’ll make a productive post this time, your issue seems to be mainly with people b tching about pairings, and people b tching about ike’s depiction of girls(mainly sarada) so I’ll give my 02 on both

A.) as stated, most serious pairing posts and predictions aren’t really shipping them as kids, but adults. I’m kinda with you on people over exaggerating on them “ruining the series”. What does happen is silly threads made sometimes ruining the experience with literally dumb and impossible ships. I can see some people’s enjoyment being ruined.

B.)It’s not just the clothes, her poses and gestures are pretty weird and out of place for a 10(11?)yr old girl. The outfits don’t help. The thing is, kishi might of been suggestive, but the younger girls weren’t iirc. They where all pretty well clothed and weren’t really put in those kind of poses. None of them ever did her lil smirk and look either. Maybe im wrong, But ike has sarada pretty iffy sometimes, and it’s not just the clothes
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

I see no problem with pairing too.

(...)
Heck, even going back to Sakura, if it weren't for Sakura seeing off Sasuke when he defected and then telling Izumo and Kotetsu about it the next morning, then Tsunade, Kakashi and everybody else wouldn't have found out about Sasuke's defection until much later, and the events of the Sasuke retrieval arc would have been significantly altered! Naruto might not have even gone on his 2 year training with Jiraiya since he was initially inspired to go on that training journey after losing to Sasuke at VOTE 1 (since he wanted to get Sasuke back). If it weren't for Sakura seeing off Sasuke and informing someone about it, then by the time everyone found out about Sasuke's defection. Sasuke would have probably already been at Orochimaru's place and there would be no VOTE 1 or Sasuke retrieval mission since Sasuke would have been able to leave Konoha uncontested and the sound 4 wouldn't have to deal with Shikamaru's 5 man team.
(...)


Yep, maybe at that moment Tsunade would think Sasuke was kidnapped or something. Well I have to agree with you, both NH and SS have brought revelation to the plot.
 
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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Can we stop paring kids though? There are much more interesting things to talk about that are more conducive to their characters then their potential love interest that could change with the swipe of the authors pen.
 

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Lol the only people that have a problem with it is the anti saradaxboruto group

I'm not sure how shipping drama was in the Naruto series but there's no big deal discussing shippings and I love it just to rustle the users that hate it because they hate the likely shippings of their favs
 

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Can we stop paring kids though? There are much more interesting things to talk about that are more conducive to their characters then their potential love interest that could change with the swipe of the authors pen.

In that case, why don't you personally choose to avoid threads/discussions about pairings, and just leave those who do want to talk about pairings to talk about pairings as they please?

Just because there is more interesting stuff to you, doesn't mean that others can't enjoy the prospect of pairings.

Also, just because we talk about pairings doesn't mean we ignore the other aspects of their characters. Case in point: We talk about power levels, feats, theories, etc... 24/7. Just look at SageBee's many threads. Lots of topics.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

In that case, why don't you personally choose to avoid threads/discussions about pairings, and just leave those who do want to talk about pairings to talk about pairings as they please?

Just because there is more interesting stuff to you, doesn't mean that others can't enjoy the prospect of pairings.

Also, just because we talk about pairings doesn't mean we ignore the other aspects of their characters. Case in point: We talk about power levels, feats, theories, etc... 24/7. Just look at SageBee's many threads. Lots of topics.

Can or can't we stop paring kids? It's underwhelming and was a huge mishap in the Naruto series (SS INCLUDED INDRA).
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Can or can't we stop paring kids? It's underwhelming and was a huge mishap in the Naruto series (SS INCLUDED INDRA).
pairings were not a big deal in the series, whether people talked about them or not

we just gotta accept the facts that if the story didn't want us to analyze/discuss pairings, they would never give us moments like these:

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Or literally this in last week's chapter

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> Pairing fan's telling people not to talk about kids being paired up when the author(s) are doing this for us. I would understand the complaint if the Naruto series in general didn't focus on pairings at all, but we literally have a movie about romance.

I didn't care for people talking about future relationships in Part 1 either. Why? Because of this:

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> Can we stop pairing up kids?

.... Yeah when they stop shoving it down in our throats.

This?

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If you have been following the series for years, then talking about "couples" happening or relationships long term is a legit thing. I have not seen a large mass of pairing discussion/debates, even in this new generation, since it started. However, targeting people and saying they cannot talk about it is weird.


I would understand the complaints if people were forcing relationships between two people who never spoken more than 5 lines to each other, or if the series just didn't focus on crap like this. But time and time again they prove us wrong. These are critical aspects of the story.

Love, bonds, relationships, friendships, family, etc.
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

People mainly just have a problem with her legs being seen.

That's what surprises me. Are these guys for real? Do they really feel kids leg's are provocative? Someome even claimed they are mostly adults at the same time as commenting on legs. Hello if you find legs of kids provocative and you are adult I sincerely hope you get help before planning kids of your own. No matter what I wouldn't want you around if my daughter is in a swimming pool etc or playing on the field.


If you think about her actual actions and gestures however (without thinking about attire), you'll see that in all of the panels that people complain about, she was just standing there or sitting down (not actually doing anything)
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Nope it's the angles and specific poses Ikemoto goes for.

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Ino's dress is not that conservative for late 90s. But the way they are posed and angel of view made the difference along with body proportions he used. Ikemoto uses different angles. He is even inconsistent. The heels of sandal varies, it get's longer when posting, shorter in action or some other scene. Girls do not pose as warriors but models.

Nobody would have a problem with this if it was Kishi's design, but because we see her legs, people don't like it and call it sexualized. .

Unless you are from some Islamic country kids wear dresses like this:
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I definitely don't want you around a swimming pool for kids if seeing legs itself is provocative for you.
 
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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

That's what surprises me. Are these guys for real? Do they really feel kids leg's are provocative? Someome even claimed they are mostly adults at the same time as commenting on legs. Hello if you find legs of kids provocative and you are adult I sincerely hope you get help before planning kids of your own. No matter what I wouldn't want you around if my daughter is in a swimming pool etc or playing on the field.


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Nope it's the angles and specific poses Ikemoto goes for.

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Ino's dress is not that conservative for late 90s. But the way they are posed and angel of view made the difference along with body proportions he used. Ikemoto uses different angles. He is even inconsistent. The heels of sandal varies, it get's longer when posting, shorter in action or some other scene. Girls do not pose as warriors but models.



Unless you are from some Islamic country kids wear dresses like this:
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I definitely don't want you around a swimming pool for kids if seeing legs itself is provocative for you.

It's not the fact of seeing her legs it's the fact that her outfit is so short there are panels that you can literally see her underwear pretty much doing panty shots

If she was wearing short pants it would be one thing karin has had that and no ones had a problem it's the clear sexualization of her character that goes past outfit even scenes how she poses and talks
 

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Re: Why the "stop pairing kids" and the "pairings ruin the series" complaints are BS.

Exactly.

The problem isn't the clothes, but the way Ikemoto's portrays the characters.
 
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