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For something to be rare it basically has to be 10.000 out if 1
So that would mean a uchina with a Sharingan is rare

I wouldn' t go that far but you' ve got the point, 5 Uzumaki, 2 showed chains.It doesn' t seem rare at all. Is it a coincidence that the 2 that showed chains are the only ones that are possible full Uzumaki?
 

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Chakra Chains are a rare KKG within the Uzumaki clan itself, Karins healing factor is unique to her only.

I wouldn't say that that healing thing is unique to Karin only because in early part 1 Naruto was stated to have a similar power because of his heritage, though it was later changed to be his Kurama influence . I think if someone where to bite Naruto they would heal
 

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I wouldn't say that that healing thing is unique to Karin only because in early part 1 Naruto was stated to have a similar power because of his heritage, though it was later changed to be his Kurama influence . I think if someone where to bite Naruto they would heal

Lmfao.
 

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I wouldn' t go that far but you' ve got the point, 5 Uzumaki, 2 showed chains.It doesn' t seem rare at all. Is it a coincidence that the 2 that showed chains are the only ones that are possible full Uzumaki?

 

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I won' t say that something that happens 10% of the time is very common.Something that happens 80% of the time is very common, 10% is uncommon for me.
Like I said , it' s subjective and relative, it' s pointless to debate on what numbers are considered rare.
 

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That's completely different because every uchina we've seen was a main character. Or a picture of the best Warriors they had

The Sharingan was less rare in the Uchiha Clan than chakra chains were in the Uzumaki Clan. Out of an entire village of Uzumaki's, only one; Kushina Uzumaki, had the chakra necessary to control the Kyuubi, while the Hidden Leaf Elders were concerned about the Uchiha being capable of keeping up a civil war with the village.

I doubt the Uchiha would fight a civil war or start a coup without hiding their non-combatants, and considering a clan isn't too big, the Uchiha are probably working with 420-540 members and only about 130 should have Sharingan.

If the Sharingan was as rare as you're arguing, the Uchiha would have struggled to make ends meet during the Warring States Era with so little Sharingan users and would be busy keeping the majority of the Sharingan users at the camp for protection. You're comparison is off. The Uzumaki's chains can be compared to the Kekkei Genkai of the Kaguya Clan in it's rarity.
 

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Sharingan is rare even among the uchiha clan according to kakashi.
 

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Sharingan is rare even among the uchiha clan according to kakashi.

Kakashi never said that, Sasuke did.

Besides, the Sharingan is more common than made out to be. During the Warring States Era, a load of Uchiha's had the Sharingan. The difference between the Uchiha's then and the ones in the Police Force is that the ones in the Police Force hadn't been in the grime of the shinobi world at large, stopping them from becoming too exposed and awakening their own Sharingan.

The Sharingan occurs in only a handful of Uchiha's, but it's not as rare as the Dead Bone Pulse. If there were 500 Uchiha's, at least 110 should have fully evolved Sharingan given that they don't die before maturing their eyes.
 

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The Sharingan was less rare in the Uchiha Clan than chakra chains were in the Uzumaki Clan. Out of an entire village of Uzumaki's, only one; Kushina Uzumaki, had the chakra necessary to control the Kyuubi, while the Hidden Leaf Elders were concerned about the Uchiha being capable of keeping up a civil war with the village.

I doubt the Uchiha would fight a civil war or start a coup without hiding their non-combatants, and considering a clan isn't too big, the Uchiha are probably working with 420-540 members and only about 130 should have Sharingan.

If the Sharingan was as rare as you're arguing, the Uchiha would have struggled to make ends meet during the Warring States Era with so little Sharingan users and would be busy keeping the majority of the Sharingan users at the camp for protection. You're comparison is off. The Uzumaki's chains can be compared to the Kekkei Genkai of the Kaguya Clan in it's rarity.

Based on what sources
 

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Kakashi never said that, Sasuke did.

Besides, the Sharingan is more common than made out to be. During the Warring States Era, a load of Uchiha's had the Sharingan. The difference between the Uchiha's then and the ones in the Police Force is that the ones in the Police Force hadn't been in the grime of the shinobi world at large, stopping them from becoming too exposed and awakening their own Sharingan.

The Sharingan occurs in only a handful of Uchiha's, but it's not as rare as the Dead Bone Pulse. If there were 500 Uchiha's, at least 110 should have fully evolved Sharingan given that they don't die before maturing their eyes.

The Sharingan can be awakened by any emotion as shown so that I can be love happiness sadness grief anxiety anything
 

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Based on what sources

Kushina claimed to be the only one with the unique chakra in her clan, while plenty of Uchiha's had Sharingan. The rarity of the Sharingan is not the same as the rarity of Kushina's abilities.

If the Uchiha's Kekkei Genkai was as rare as you're proposing, the Uchiha would have never planned a coup in confidence of a surprise attack working.
 

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Kushina claimed to be the only one with the unique chakra in her clan, while plenty of Uchiha's had Sharingan. The rarity of the Sharingan is not the same as the rarity of Kushina's abilities.

If the Uchiha's Kekkei Genkai was as rare as you're proposing, the Uchiha would have never planned a coup in confidence of a surprise attack working.

Bro I think your getting it mixed up the chains are a hidden jutsu according to the databook. Kushina had special chakra means strong chakra(to co rain the 9 tails) for even her clan. With her stronger chakra her chains would naturally be stronger than the average Uzumaki's and therefore she'd be able to restrain the 9 tails. It's(special chakra) also why karins chains(no special chakra) are mentioned(databook) to be weaker than Kushina's.
 

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Kushina claimed to be the only one with the unique chakra in her clan, while plenty of Uchiha's had Sharingan. The rarity of the Sharingan is not the same as the rarity of Kushina's abilities.

If the Uchiha's Kekkei Genkai was as rare as you're proposing, the Uchiha would have never planned a coup in confidence of a surprise attack working.

No she said her chakra was special even for people in her clan you have to remember the Uzumaki were look to for every generation to be the nine tails vessel so it had to be somewhat of a normal recurring sent for them to be looked upon to always constantly be the vessel for the nine tails
 

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The chains are kind of rare, only karin, kushina and mito possessed them, nagato didn't. So maybe only those who have these chains could have the right to be a jinchuuriki.
 
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