Uzumaki Kushina

[salamander uchiha]

This doesn' t confirm Kushina could use the chains.

Whatever you say they're used as part of her seal to suppress and restrain the kyubi but she couldn't use them

Ps. She also taught Minato the Uzumaki fuinn jutsu, I guess she couldn't use them either or didn't know how to do them as well. Her chakra chains are also classified as a Hiden, fuinn barrier Jutsu.

 

[davidou]

Whatever you say they're used as part of her seal to suppress and restrain the kyubi but she couldn't use them

Ps. She also taught Minato the Uzumaki fuinn jutsu, I guess she couldn't use them either or didn't know how to do them as well. Her chakra chains are also classified as a Hiden, fuinn barrier Jutsu.

What makes you think it' s Kushina that sealed Kurama in her own body.

 

[salamander uchiha]

What makes you think it' s Kushina that sealed Kurama in her own body.

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Kurama recognises the chakra via the chains.

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Kushina also confirming that her chakra was sealed to help Naruto take control of the 9 tails. So the jitsu is lush is chakra related.

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Kushina confirming she taught Minato fuinn jutsu

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Kushina binds it and could re-seal the 9 tails into herself she wanted to take it to death with her. The only way that happens os when a jin fies with the tailed beast sealed within them.

I hope these scans give you some perspective

Nothing to say she did it alone, however her chains(made from her chakra) are involved and it's her chakra that creates those chains and restrains the kyubi. She can use them/ form them otherwise it(sealing) wouldn't have happened. She's involved with it either way I hope that clears it up.

 

[davidou]

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Kurama recognises the chakra via the chains.

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Kushina also confirming that her chakra was sealed to help Naruto take control of the 9 tails. So the jitsu is lush is chakra related.

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Kushina confirming she taught Minato fuinn jutsu

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Kushina binds it and could re-seal the 9 tails into herself she wanted to take it to death with her. The only way that happens os when a jin fies with the tailed beast sealed within them.

I hope these scans give you some perspective

Nothing to say she did it alone, however her chains(made from her chakra) are involved and it's her chakra that creates those chains and restrains the kyubi. She can use them/ form them otherwise it(sealing) wouldn't have happened. She's involved with it either way I hope that clears it up.

that was the day of her death, nothing mentions that she had the ability to use those chains as a young girl.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

The very reason she was brought to the village was because she was the most special and had the most strongest chakra among the uzumaki clan and had this chain power, lest the kyuubi goes out of control like it did in kumogakure( in hachibi's case) she should be capable of suppressing it. So if she was handpicked among her entire clan to take the role of mito (who sealed the kyuubi inside of her herself without hashiramas help), its only logical to say she had the chain manipulation and kyuubi suppressing ability when and before she became the jinchuuriki.

 

[salamander uchiha]

that was the day of her death, nothing mentions that she had the ability to use those chains as a young girl.

Her chakra forms the chains, the chains chain kurama in her seal but she can't use them.

The cloud wanted to kidnap her and she had kurama sealed in her at the time, her chakra forms the chains(that bind kurama) therefore she had the ability to use the chains at that time. Do take your time and process that.

I'm not interested in a back and forth exchange unless you have evidence to the contrary.

 

[davidou]

Her chakra forms the chains, the chains chain kurama in her seal but she can't use them.

The cloud wanted to kidnap her and she had kurama sealed in her at the time, her chakra forms the chains(that bind kurama) therefore she had the ability to use the chains at that time. Do take your time and process that.

I'm not interested in a back and forth exchange unless you have evidence to the contrary.

Where is the proof that it' s her chakra that is binding Kurama?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Not quite a Tsuande, but she was a powerful woman.
Mito did the same thing after giving birth, but she prevented it from happening.

 

[salamander uchiha]

The very reason she was brought to the village was because she was the most special and had the most strongest chakra among the uzumaki clan and had this chain power, lest the kyuubi goes out of control like it did in kumogakure( in hachibi's case) she should be capable of suppressing it. So if she was handpicked among her entire clan to take the role of mito (who sealed the kyuubi inside of her herself without hashiramas help), its only logical to say she had the chain manipulation and kyuubi suppressing ability when and before she became the jinchuuriki.

Yes she did bro and she had the chakra chains they're even a part of her seal. But some will tell you they (konoha) didn't kow what they were doing or she had the chains even though you can see them in her seal

The denial of some of them is on another level.

Where is the proof that it' s her chakra that is binding Kurama?

I've never read something so stupid in my entire life, she was chosen because of her chakra and ability to suppress the ninetails via chains.

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Now in this databook entry is mentions she was chosen as it also does in the manga, it gives the ability she has to trap the 9 tails in a human body and guess what it shows her chakra chains(She had learnt how to use them). Also they were shown in her seal as I previously posted. So it was her chakra no matter what kind of loop hole or excuse you try and find.

Now I want you to provide proof contrary to this. I've presented plenty of evidences but you've yet to present anything.

I've done what I had to do I'm not interested in entertaining fanfic and denial unless you have evidence to the contrary.

 

[Jinrou]

The very reason she was brought to the village was because she was the most special and had the most strongest chakra among the uzumaki clan and had this chain power, lest the kyuubi goes out of control like it did in kumogakure( in hachibi's case) she should be capable of suppressing it. So if she was handpicked among her entire clan to take the role of mito (who sealed the kyuubi inside of her herself without hashiramas help), its only logical to say she had the chain manipulation and kyuubi suppressing ability when and before she became the jinchuuriki.

Where was the bold said? Far as i know, she was brought because of her special chakra that they knew had the ability to suppress nine tails. Nothing to suggest they knew for certain it would materialize in chain form? And nothing to suggest young Kushina knew either.

 

[Scryed]

I actually think she might be one of the strongest Kunoichi if not the strongest. The Chains could do some physical damage as was shown by Karin. I don't know much about her but if she could atleast use Kyuubi cloak as a Jinchuuriki to amplify her chains even more, then I might consider her the strongest Kunoichi. Considering that she atleast knows how to use RDS since she taught it to Minato along with the fact that she was said to have improved overtime as well.

 

[davidou]

Yes she did bro and she had the chakra chains they're even a part of her seal. But some will tell you they (konoha) didn't kow what they were doing or she had the chains even though you can see them in her seal

The denial of some of them is on another level.




I've never read something so stupid in my entire life, she was chosen because of her chakra and ability to suppress the ninetails via chains.

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Now in this databook entry is mentions she was chosen as it also does in the manga, it gives the ability she has to trap the 9 tails in a human body and guess what it shows her chakra chains(She had learnt how to use them). Also they were shown in her seal as I previously posted. So it was her chakra no matter what kind of loop hole or excuse you try and find.

Now I want you to provide proof contrary to this. I've presented plenty of evidences but you've yet to present anything.

I've done what I had to do I'm not interested in entertaining fanfic and denial unless you have evidence to the contrary.

I don' t need to bring anything, because the only thing I want is to show you that what you said is fanfic, since you have no proof.

 

[Made in Heaven]

3 pages in and Salamander still can't prove a single claim he has made so far. :nefer: I am still waiting to see where it says Chains are part of Kushina's seal (not metaphysical ones), where it says she had them as a kid, and why Karin has them even though she is not a Jinchuriki, and why Naruto doesn't have them? :wut:

 

[salamander uchiha]

I don' t need to bring anything, because the only thing I said is that what you said was fanfic.
And it is still fanfic, since you didn' t provide the proof that Kushina could use chains when she became a jinchuriki.

And your claiming she couldn't all of what I've provided is proof.

Proof 1 it's part of her seal.
Proof 2 her sealing ability to trap the kyubi in human form but according to you she didn't do it or use it, and it(databook entry) shows chakra chains(no other jutsu) and they're mentioned alongside her special chakra.
Proof 3 she knew fuinn jutsu and taught them to Minato.
Proof 4 chakra chains are made from her chakra So they're her chains.

She had chakra chains prior to becoming a Jin since its part of her seal but you deny it. All the proofs confirm she had them but you deny it and come up with more and more excuses.

I think we're done here since I can't see anything substantive from you and I don't think your going to overcome your denial.

3 pages in and Salamander still can't prove a single claim he has made so far. :nefer: I am still waiting to see where it says Chains are part of Kushina's seal (not metaphysical ones), where it says she had them as a kid, and why Karin has them even though she is not a Jinchuriki, and why Naruto doesn't have them? :wut:

Nobody cares about your fanfic dear, or attempts to go off topic again.
The chains are part of her seal as shown in the manga scan(where the kyubi is restrained by them) and I'm waiting for you to prove they're not. And that kushina uses the 4 trigrams seal as you claimed.

Other than that I'm not interested in your fanfic or attempts to move off topic and point scoring.

 

[davidou]

And your claiming she couldn't all of what I've provided is proof.

Proof 1 it's part of her seal.
Proof 2 her sealing ability to trap the kyubi in human form but according to you she didn't do it or use it, and it(databook entry) shows chakra chains(no other jutsu) and they're mentioned alongside her special chakra.
Proof 3 she knew fuinn jutsu and taught them to Minato.
Proof 4 chakra chains are made from her chakra So they're her chains.

She had chakra chains prior to becoming a Jin since its part of her seal but you deny it. All the proofs confirm she had them but you deny it and come up with more and more excuses.

I think we're done here since I can't see anything substantive from you and I don't think your going to overcome your denial.



Nobody cares about your fanfic dear, or attempts to go off topic again.
The chains are part of her seal as shown in the manga scan(where the kyubi is restrained by them) and I'm waiting for you to prove they're not. And that kushina uses the 4 trigrams seal as you claimed.

Other than that I'm not interested in your fanfic or attempts to move off topic and point scoring.

No I' m not.

There is not one single proof in all your list.

Thanks for trying but you can' t prove it so it' s fanfic.

 

[salamander uchiha]

No I' m not.

There is not one single proof in all your list.

Thanks for trying but you can' t prove it so it' s fanfic.

Every scan I presented was proof and added weight to the assertion. Sees the chains binding Kurama and him pinned on a wheel and asks what proof is there that Kushina could use the chains. I've lost interest in entertaining your blatant denial of facts. Have a good day see ya.

 

[davidou]

Every scan I presented was proof and added weight to the assertion. Sees the chains binding Kurama and him pinned on a wheel and asks what proof is there that Kushina could use the chains. I've lost interest in entertaining your blatant denial of facts. Have a good day see ya.

I don' t deny facts, I say that there is no proofs that those chains are Kushina' s.
Naruto has a cage holding Kurama in him as a baby, did he create the cage as a baby?
Same for Kushina, someone may have created this seal inside her, you' ve got no proof that it isn' t the case.
Thanks, have a nice day too.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I don' t deny facts, I say that there is no proofs that those chains are Kushina' s.
Naruto has a cage holding Kurama in him as a baby, did he create the cage as a baby?
Same for Kushina, someone may have created this seal inside her, you' ve got no proof that it isn' t the case.
Thanks, have a nice day too.

The difference is we know Minato created the cage via 8 trigrams seal. And the databook confirms that kushina inherited her clans ability to seal the kyubi in a human body while showing the chakra chains(emphasising what is being referred to). And then we see chains binding Kurama in the seal as well. What you get from the 2 together is she had inherited (learnt) the ability and therefore used it, otherwise it defeats the purpose of making reference to the ability altogether and specifying it's purpose. I'm saying there is a possibility somebody else sealed Kurama in her but she would've had to manifest the chains for the sealing to happen the way it did.

Take care you have a good day too

 

[davidou]

The difference is we know Minato created the cage via 8 trigrams seal. And the databook confirms that kushina inherited her clans ability to seal the kyubi in a human body while showing the chakra chains(emphasising what is being referred to). And then we see chains binding Kurama in the seal as well. What you get from the 2 together is she had inherited (learnt) the ability and therefore used it, otherwise it defeats the purpose of making reference to the ability altogether and specifying it's purpose. I'm saying is there is a possibility somebody else sealed Kurama in her but she would've had to manifest the chains for the sealing to happen the way it did.

Take care you have a good day to

Yes she inherited the ability, yes there are chains in her seal, no you can' t conclude that she made those chains.A possibility, not a fact.

 

[Mori Jin]

It's a Hidan technique, like the shadow binding technique, expansion, bug techniques in Konoha. It's not a KKG. She uses her chakra and molds it into chains. It has defensive and offensive capabilities. Also she can use in conjugation with her fuinjutsu techniques. That is she can turn the chains into barriers and different seal techniques. Hence her holding Kurama down. In terms of strength, she held Kurama down after giving birth and having a Bijuu (the strongest one of the nine) taken out of her. Had she lived she'd be the strongest Kunoichi alive. Karin was using an incomplete version of Kushina's admantine. All she did was mold her chakra into chains and use it offensively.