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[Made in Heaven]

Its meant to say whatever you say.

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Hiashi says we regard her as Superflous so I'll let you figure that. And the purpose she's being given to Kurenai is because she's Superflous to the clan not just the Head house.

superfluous

suːˈpəːflʊəs/

adjective

unnecessary, especially through being more than enough.

"the purchaser should avoid asking for superfluous information"

synonyms:surplus,*redundant,*unneeded,*not required,*excess,*extra

My parting gift from viz

I'm not going to help you to hijack this thread.

I see, so you have no scan for the following claim YOU made. concession accepted :tea:

shows she doesn't really hold position in the clan as a whole. Her association is by birth only not by right.

Where in that scan does it say the position Hinata holds as a Hyuga?

Where in that scan does it say her association is by birth?

Where in that scan does it say she is not part of the clan?

Also, wtf does "association by birth and not right" even mean? What are you even trying to say? Since wtf was being part of a clan a right for someone? It's either through birth or marriage.

Anyways, Have a canon scan of Hinata's position in the clan as a whole

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[Nick01]

As always Salamander be taking the biggest L's. But he can share them with those who liked his posts, considering it's big enough.

The guy truly has an obsession. An unhealthy one at that.

OT :

Imo LB explained it pretty well.

 

[salamander uchiha]

-feeble attempt to save face or poor comprehesnion skills-

I provided you with canon Viz scan if you can't understand it then it can't be helped. Im not responsible for that perhaps further study is in order. Even the Boruto scan doesn't back your fanfic

Leave the thread alone and stop spamming it.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Such a fastidious break-down. Your clairvoyance is really remarkable. Keep up the good work, m8. As always, facts prevail over preferential notions.


lmao. #facts

I see, so you have no scan for the following claim YOU made. concession accepted :tea:



Where in that scan does it say the position Hinata holds as a Hyuga?

Where in that scan does it say her association is by birth?

Where in that scan does it say she is not part of the clan?

Also, wtf does "association by birth and not right" even mean? What are you even trying to say? Since wtf was being part of a clan a right for someone? It's either through birth or marriage.

Anyways, Have a canon scan of Hinata's position in the clan as a whole

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One clown agreeing with another

can't take your 100th L with honour can't you? :lol anyways, i'm just on the side lines here. my input is clearly not required.

ot: i don't know either.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I provided you with canon Viz scan if you can't understand it then it can't be helped. Im not responsible for that perhaps firther study is in order.

Leave the thread alone and stop spamming it.

I ask you for a scan confirming Hinata's position in the Hyuga Clan and you give me an unrelated scan, but it's fine since I already found an up-to-date current scan confirming Hinata's position in the Hyuga Clan.

And here it is.

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can't take your 100th L with honour can't you? :lol anyways, i'm just on the side lines here. my input is clearly not required.

ot: i don't know either.

Emhmmm :tea:

Air Palm is a technique of a higher caliber than 64 Palms.

 

[Nick01]

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Rofl such :salt:

 

[Askeladd]

As always a simple thread ended up being derailed by Salamander... Even Mugen noticed that his post is completely irrelevant and full of shade like always.

Anyway, I'm sorry Mugen if your thread got ruined by the same people, seems like Zack joined too. :yeah:

From what I've heard, girls don't start side families or w/e in japan, so it might be based on that rule why Hanabi/Hinata are different than Hiashi/Hizashi.

As for the hostility, it's pretty obvious: Slavery. Pretty stupid that Kishi just glossed over a clan changing from allowing that to being what it is now.

As for any hope for development in Part 3, it's possible given Kishimoto said he wants to give some focus to Neji in an interview since Bolt is named after him. I think that is the best bet on seeing some flashbacks to how the Hyuga Clan changed. Either that, or we can hope to get a more in depth look at the clan as a whole once Bolt/Himawari awaken their eyes.

Pretty much this. I wonder how Neji will play a role in the story.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I ask you for a scan confirming Hinata's position in the Hyuga Clan and you give me an unrelated scan, but it's fine since I already found an up-to-date current scan confirming Hinata's position in the Hyuga Clan.

So her having the name Hyuga means she holds position within the clan, whereas Hiashi confirms she doesn't hold position and is superflous to the clan even then she still bore the Hyuga name. Beautiful logic good find.


If you have a scan confirming she's no longer Superflous to the Hyuga clan I'd like to see it in a separate thread you start. Instead of hijacking this thread.

 

[Mori Jin]

Still the same salty ass individuals . Just because your bait thread was closed, doesn't mean you should bring it here.

You've already taken like 6 Ls from LB anyway, so there's that as well.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So her having the name Hyuga means she holds position within the clan

A person carrying a family name doesn't hold a position in that family. Only you would come up with such divine knowledge wease:

whereas Hiashi confirms she doesn't hold position

Hiashi never says this, but expected from a liar such as yourself.

Even if he had, that is no longer the case.

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and is superflous to the clan even then she still bore the Hyuga name. Beautiful logic good find.

Hiashi considering Hinata useless as a shinobi doesn't equal to her being kicked out of the clan, otherwise her eyes would have been taken, she wouldn't have been trained in their fighting style, and she wouldn't live with them

If you have a scan confirming she's no longer Superflous to the Hyuga clan I'd like to see it in a separate thread you start. Instead of hijacking this thread.

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Hiashi out of his own mouth puts Hinata on par with Neji as influencing and changing the fate/destiny of the Hyuga Clan.

there's that, let alone the fact that:

Hiashi calls her a strong Hyuga
Hiashi praises her and Ino.
Hiashi worries for her and Hanabi when they are on the moon.
Hinata confirms Hiashi has changed.
Hinata is called a Hyuga Princess in part 3, which is where the story is currently at, not back in Chapter 80 like you are

Pretty disgusting that you're such a hater you resort to bastardizing Hiashi into this uncharacteristic vortex of hate to Hinata when he is no longer anything like he was in the past. This reminds me a lot of how SS/Salad fans try to bastardize Naruto into being this neglectful father who hates his family just because SSS have a shitty family life, but what can I say, you're a Salad fan, so it's expected.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

The older sibling generally takes charge Hiashi was likely more talented than Hizashi so he wasn't bothered at that time. Hizashi was relegated to the side branch he became bitter when Neji was born. Although he accepted Hiashi to be better than him, Neji who was superior to Hinata would never be allowed to take charge of the clan. So the clan would've been ruled by a second rate Hyuga born into the head house. They would be forced into obedience to those with lesser talents. Your actually destroying the Hyuga clan and never allowing it to reach its fullest potential.

Hizashi and the other branch members or their children could never ascend based upon talent and would forever be forced to protect even the 1 who's a loser(Hinata) as called by Hiashi. Even if they disagreed with the Head house the head house would blackmail them via the seal. Also Hizashi never saw Hanabi and was dead long before she was born or grew up so he couldn't recognise her talent, perhaps he would've been different if he saw her.

As for Hinata and Hanabi, Hinata being five years older and having spared with Neji showed she wasnt very talented. So it's likely the Head house waited for Hanabi to come of age once she demonstrated her skills by beating Hinata somebody 5 years her senior, she cemented her position as leader of the head house. As for Hinata not taking the seal that's largely from Hiashi's own words "the Hyuga don't need her" meaning she's even less talented than the branch house members and would bring even more shame to the Hyuga name by being put into the branch. Hiashi sent her off to the ninja world instead in hopes of her experiencing the fate of others so as if she never happened. When kureani said she'd be around death (meaning Hinata could die) Hiashi responds the Hyuga don't need her(meaning good riddance). I hope that clears up the confusion.

Damn did you just make that up on your own

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

So her having the name Hyuga means she holds position within the clan, whereas Hiashi confirms she doesn't hold position and is superflous to the clan even then she still bore the Hyuga name. Beautiful logic good find.


If you have a scan confirming she's no longer Superflous to the Hyuga clan I'd like to see it in a separate thread you start. Instead of hijacking this thread.

Good luck seeing the day Made in Heaven ever makes a separate thread and doesn't derail others' conscientious threads by permeating them with his preferential logic which only satisfies his and his companions.

For InfinteMugen's sake, since we have respect for his thread, let's stop helping them spread more lies and leave this thread peacefully while they haven't completely ruined it.

I have to agree on all your points so far, particularly this one. They need a dictionary if they don't understand what 'superfluous' means. Classes or two in English will help them reach at least elementary level comprehension, which really is our best hope.

 

[salamander uchiha]

-too much fanfic-

I was hoping for the scan that confirms she's no longer Superflous to the clan. Not your fanfic and like I said start another thread.

Good luck seeing the day Made in Heaven ever makes a separate thread and doesn't derail others' conscientious threads by permeating it with her preferential logic which only satisfies his and his companions.

For InfinteMugen's sake, since we have respect for his thread, let's stop helping them spread more lies and leave this thread peacefully while they haven't completely ruined it.

I have to agree on all your points so far, particularly this one. They need a dictionary if they don't understand what 'superfluous' means. Classes or two in English will help them reach at least elementary level comprehension, which really is our best hope.

I agree she can't even furnish evidence for her claims and says this happened that happened. And all she wants to do is hijack this thread. I think your right we need to stop entertaining this troll. I think a lot more than 2 classes in english are needed if she doesnt understand what superflous and context are. She's completely derailed Mugen's thread and I'm not going to help her derail it further.

 

[Made in Heaven]

As always a simple thread ended up being derailed by Salamander... Even Mugen noticed that his post is completely irrelevant and full of shade like always.

Anyway, I'm sorry Mugen if your thread got ruined by the same people, seems like Zack joined too. :yeah:



Pretty much this. I wonder how Neji will play a role in the story.

There's always Edo Tensei for Neji tbh, which could help fix up his crappy death

I was hoping for the scan that confirms she's no longer Superflous to the clan. Not your fanfic and like I said start another thread.

I agree she can't even furnish evidence for her claims and says this happened that happened. And all she wants to do is hijack this thread. I think your right we need to stop entertaining this troll. I think a lot more than 2 classes in english are needed if she doesnt understand what superflous and context. She's completely derailed Mugen's thread and I'm not going to help her derail it further.

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[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

A person carrying a family name doesn't hold a position in that family. Only you would come up with such divine knowledge wease:



Hiashi never says this, but expected from a liar such as yourself.

Even if he had, that is no longer the case.

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Hiashi considering Hinata useless as a shinobi doesn't equal to her being kicked out of the clan, otherwise her eyes would have been taken, she wouldn't have been trained in their fighting style, and she wouldn't live with them

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Hiashi out of his own mouth puts Hinata on par with Neji as influencing and changing the fate/destiny of the Hyuga Clan.

there's that, let alone the fact that:

Hiashi calls her a strong Hyuga
Hiashi praises her and Ino.
Hiashi worries for her and Hanabi when they are on the moon.
Hinata confirms Hiashi has changed.
Hinata is called a Hyuga Princess in part 3, which is where the story is currently at, not back in Chapter 80 like you are

Pretty disgusting that you're such a hater you resort to bastardizing Hiashi into this uncharacteristic vortex of hate to Hinata when he is no longer anything like he was in the past. This reminds me a lot of how SS/Salad fans try to bastardize Naruto into being this neglectful father who hates his family just because SSS have a shitty family life, but what can I say, you're a Salad fan, so it's expected.

lmao. even denies Hinata was ostracized from her clan, when she didn't get the same privileges as hanabi after she was dumped in kurenai's care, a full-time shinobi, faster than an unwanted newborn baby. I mean she was practically raised by kurenai since she didn't get any love from hiashi while she got PLENTY from kurenai. Haishi didn't even regret it. if you wanna deny that too, show me a scan of hiashi asking for forgiveness for dumping her in another woman's hands. also, I hope you aren't really serious about Hinata holding any significant position in the Hyuuga clan. :lol

Apologies to InfiniteM, I really couldn't help it. But this is all for me.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Honestly Zack, the fact that you're replying to me is hilarious conisdering how ignorant you are about ANYTHING hyuga related evidenced by you claiming Air Palm > 64 Palms or that every Hyuga knows Rotation. Go back to having another 15-page mental breakdown please.

lmao. even denies Hinata was ostracized from her clan

Don't put words in my mouth.

when she didn't get the same privileges as hanabi

Outside of Rotation, which is heir exclusive, where are these fanfic privileges?

after she was dumped in kurenai's care

Never happened.

a full-time shinobi

Which is what every Hyuga is.

faster than an unwanted newborn baby.

This is just character bashing, so reported.

I mean she was practically raised by kurenai

Last I recall, Hinata was living with Hiashi and Neji, not Kurenai. Hmmm more fanfic/lying as always.

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since she didn't get any love from hiashi while she got PLENTY from kurenai.

While this is never confirmed, I can agree it is likely true for Hiashi in part 1.

Haishi didn't even regret it. if you wanna deny that too, show me a scan of hiashi asking for forgiveness for dumping her in another woman's hands.

Again, he never dumped Hinata to be raised by Kurenai, we see Hinata living with her father :lol

also, I hope you aren't really serious about Hinata holding any significant position in the Hyuuga clan.

your opinion doesn't matter to me, because not only have you proved your incompetence time and again, but manga disagrees with you.

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[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

your opinion doesn't matter to me, because not only have you proved your incompetence time and again, but manga disagrees with you.

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I can't respond to your other points as they're unworthy of my time. Do take more time on your posts cause that will help you be more coherent and make sense more.

In regards to that. It only shows that Hinata is regarded highly by the author, not her clan, or is it Mitsuki? :lol Plus, there's no better position than being Head of the Clan. Ultimately, Hinata holds an insignificant place in the clan, as she has no power over what the clan decides.

:lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

I can't respond to your other points

It's fine, concession accepted.

In regards to that. It only shows that Hinata is regarded highly by the author, not her clan, or is it Mitsuki?

Reaching af. Mitsuki/Shikadai referring to her as a Hyuga Princess means she is a Hyuga Princess. Nothing hard to grasp there for the common individual. Or is Tsunade/Kaguya being called a princess only the opinion of those who call her as such?

Plus, there's no better position than being Head of the Clan.

Where were we arguing whether this was the case or not? Stop trying to win arguments that aren't even being made.

But, yeah, for once, you are right. Obviously, in terms of hierarchy Hiashi as the head, is superior to Hanabi as the heiress, who is superior to Hinata as a princess, who is superior to the other main family members, who are superior to the side members, assuming they still exist in Part 3.

Ultimately, Hinata holds an insignificant place in the clan,

Being a princess is insignificant apparently.

as she has no power over what the clan decides.

Scan of this being confirmed?

Funny you say this when Hiashi credits Hinata and Neji for influencing and changing the Hyuga's fate/destiny, so nah she clearly does have influence on the clan, but no worries, Zack, we all know you know next to nothing about anything Hyuga related.

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[InfiniteMugen]

Too much to quote, so, salamander, no biggie, it’s not that serious, it’s just not every thread has to turn into that, although I think we all
Enjoy it here and there it’s gotten over done a bit to the point where even mods are “verbally” warning people, id rather not see too many people get banned tbh. To salamander and zack, she’s still very much in the main branch, nor did her status in it actually change in their reality, hiashis scolding and disdain of her was due to her not living up to his expectations at all. This is more for us the readers, as within the clan as a whole, she was still hiashis daughter and a main branch member, on top of that, by ship she’s not nearly as shunned in general so that kinda died down, but still, it never says anything that the clan itself all looked at her in that way, just the head(which would be the most important). To the others, i just feel the hiashi hizashi thing feels contrived, like a few min in age was the deciding factor? It seems cruel. Does it ever say how long it’s been going on? Tbh this is something I actually would like to see explained better cause as mentioned by someone else, kishi kinda glossed over it considering how in depth and important it seemed at the time in part 1

 

[Made in Heaven]

Too much to quote, so, salamander, no biggie, it’s not that serious, it’s just not every thread has to turn into that, although I think we all
Enjoy it here and there it’s gotten over done a bit to the point where even mods are “verbally” warning people, id rather not see too many people get banned tbh. To salamander and zack, she’s still very much in the main branch, nor did her status in it actually change in their reality, hiashis scolding and disdain of her was due to her not living up to his expectations at all. This is more for us the readers, as within the clan as a whole, she was still hiashis daughter and a main branch member, on top of that, by ship she’s not nearly as shunned in general so that kinda died down, but still, it never says anything that the clan itself all looked at her in that way, just the head(which would be the most important). To the others, i just feel the hiashi hizashi thing feels contrived, like a few min in age was the deciding factor? It seems cruel. Does it ever say how long it’s been going on? Tbh this is something I actually would like to see explained better cause as mentioned by someone else, kishi kinda glossed over it considering how in depth and important it seemed at the time in part 1

You're wasting your breath with those two.

Kishimoto glosses over a lot of hyuga related things. We don't even have an outright confirmation that the Caged Bird Seal thing stopped, just heavily implications based on small moments in Part 2 like the one I posted above or Hinata saying Hiashi has changed in Part 3 in the Bolt anime. But hopefully part 3 will fill up these things more clearly.

But yeah, Hiashi and Hizashi's fates being decided by a few minutes of difference is cruel, Neji himself points this out. As for how long, probably ever since they left the moon?