Main Branch/Side Branch

[InfiniteMugen]

Is it ever explained how it works? Like why the side branch is the side branch. I know they go over it a lil, but it seems kinda weird. Hiashi and hizashi(sp?) where brothers, so they had the same parents, but hizashi was picked for the side branch, but obviously both their parents weren’t side branch members no? So then why wasn’t either hanabi or Hinata part of the side branch then? It’s weird that hiashi and hizashi were split but another pair of siblings where not. Another thing is why the hostility between the 2? If the purpose of the branch system is to protect the secrets of the bloodline and whatnot, why be hostile? I’m wondering if we’ll get a more in depth look at the clan itself in pt3 and not just the dojutsu and Ōtsutsuki connection. Thoughts? Again if this has all been thoroughly explained, my bad

 

[Made in Heaven]

From what I've heard, girls don't start side families or w/e in japan, so it might be based on that rule why Hanabi/Hinata are different than Hiashi/Hizashi.

As for the hostility, it's pretty obvious: Slavery. Pretty stupid that Kishi just glossed over a clan changing from allowing that to being what it is now.

As for any hope for development in Part 3, it's possible given Kishimoto said he wants to give some focus to Neji in an interview since Bolt is named after him. I think that is the best bet on seeing some flashbacks to how the Hyuga Clan changed. Either that, or we can hope to get a more in depth look at the clan as a whole once Bolt/Himawari awaken their eyes.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

From what I've heard, girls don't start side families or w/e in japan, so it might be based on that rule why Hanabi/Hinata are different than Hiashi/Hizashi.

As for the hostility, it's pretty obvious: Slavery. Pretty stupid that Kishi just glossed over a clan changing from allowing that to being what it is now.

As for any hope for development in Part 3, it's possible given Kishimoto said he wants to give some focus to Neji in an interview since Bolt is named after him. I think that is the best bet on seeing some flashbacks to how the Hyuga Clan changed. Either that, or we can hope to get a more in depth look at the clan as a whole once Bolt/Himawari awaken their eyes.

But why the slavery? That’s what I mean, like, for some reason, to me, you’d be able to put a seal on half or whatever under the pretense of protecting the entire clans bloodline and it could probably be done without making them be submissive. It’s not like the side branch where criminals or crooked members of the hyuga. I feel it could of been done without the slavery aspect and the animosity between the 2

 

[Made in Heaven]

But why the slavery? That’s what I mean, like, for some reason, to me, you’d be able to put a seal on half or whatever under the pretense of protecting the entire clans bloodline and it could probably be done without making them be submissive. It’s not like the side branch where criminals or crooked members of the hyuga. I feel it could of been done without the slavery aspect and the animosity between the 2

A lot of things can be done without being an ass about it, but that's what the shinboi system was about: Being an ass of a human.

The seal basically made the side family's Byakugans safe, while the side family being slaves kept the main family's Byakugans safe

 

[salamander uchiha]

The older sibling generally takes charge Hiashi was likely more talented than Hizashi so he wasn't bothered at that time. Hizashi was relegated to the side branch he became bitter when Neji was born. Although he accepted Hiashi to be better than him, Neji who was superior to Hinata would never be allowed to take charge of the clan. So the clan would've been ruled by a second rate Hyuga born into the head house. They would be forced into obedience to those with lesser talents. Your actually destroying the Hyuga clan and never allowing it to reach its fullest potential.

Hizashi and the other branch members or their children could never ascend based upon talent and would forever be forced to protect even the 1 who's a loser(Hinata) as called by Hiashi. Even if they disagreed with the Head house the head house would blackmail them via the seal. Also Hizashi never saw Hanabi and was dead long before she was born or grew up so he couldn't recognise her talent, perhaps he would've been different if he saw her.

As for Hinata and Hanabi, Hinata being five years older and having spared with Neji showed she wasnt very talented. So it's likely the Head house waited for Hanabi to come of age once she demonstrated her skills by beating Hinata somebody 5 years her senior, she cemented her position as leader of the head house. As for Hinata not taking the seal that's largely from Hiashi's own words "the Hyuga don't need her" meaning she's even less talented than the branch house members and would bring even more shame to the Hyuga name by being put into the branch. Hiashi sent her off to the ninja world instead in hopes of her experiencing the fate of others so as if she never happened. When kureani said she'd be around death (meaning Hinata could die) Hiashi responds the Hyuga don't need her(meaning good riddance). I hope that clears up the confusion.

 

[Styles]

The older siblings = main branch and the younger = side branch to protect the main. Regarding Hinata/Hanabi i guess it was due to which was gonna become heir or due to Hiashi.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

The older sibling generally takes charge Hiashi was likely more talented than Hizashi so he wasn't bothered at that time. Hizashi was relegated to the side branch he became bitter when Neji was born, although he accepted Hiashi to be better than him Neji who was superior to Hinata would never be allowed to take charge of the clan. So the clan would've been ruled by a second rate Hyuga born into the head house. They would be forced into obedience to those with lesser talents. Your actually destroying the Hyuga clan and never allowing it to reach its fullest potential.

Hizashi and the other branch members or their children could never ascend based upon talent and would forever be forced to protect even the 1 who's a loser(Hinata) as called Hiashi. Even if they disagreed with the Head house the head house would blackmail them via the seal. Also Hiazashi never saw Hanabi and was dead long before she was born or grew up so he couldn't recognise her talent, perhaps he would've been different if he saw her.

As for Hinata and Hanabi, Hinata being five years older and having spared with Neji showed she wasnt very talented. So it's likely the Head house waited for Hanabi to come of age once she demonstrated her skills by beating Hinata somebody 5 years her senior, she cemented her position as leader of the head house. As for Hinata not taking the seal that's largely from Hiashi's own words "the Hyuga don't need her" meaning she's even less talented than the branch house members and would bring even more shame to the Hyuga name by being put into the branch. Hiashi sent her off to the ninja world instead in hopes of her experiencing the fate of others so as if she never happened. When kureani said she'd be around death (meaning Hinata could die) Hiashi responds the Hyuga don't need her(good riddance). I hope that clears up the confusion.

Dude this reads as mostly one big shade toss on Hinata, as her performance and or skill level in pt 1 are kinda moot To this thread considering they’re position is decided at birth pretty much

The older siblings = main branch and the younger = side branch to protect the main. Regarding Hinata/Hanabi i guess it was due to which was gonna become heir or due to Hiashi.

I guess hiashi being the head would make sense as to why, but you would think that would make other members of the clan hate him if they had to split their siblings up

 

[Made in Heaven]

Dude this reads as mostly one big shade toss on Hinata, as her performance and or skill level in pt 1 are kinda moot To this thread considering they’re position is decided at birth pretty much

What did you expect form him? any thread about Hinata will see him trolling/bashing in it.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Dude this reads as mostly one big shade toss on Hinata, as her performance and or skill level in pt 1 are kinda moot To this thread considering they’re position is decided at birth pretty much.

Everything I've said is factual or implied. It may seem like shade, truth usually does. For some the truth is a bitter pill to swallow. You asked for an answer I gave it to you I explained everything about position being decided at birth take it or leave it we can't change facts.

 

[Styles]

Dude this reads as mostly one big shade toss on Hinata, as her performance and or skill level in pt 1 are kinda moot To this thread considering they’re position is decided at birth pretty much

I guess hiashi being the head would make sense as to why, but you would think that would make other members of the clan hate him if they had to split their siblings up

Probably did. We know the side branch hated the main branch but supposedly was scared due to the caged bird seal. Idk tho the Hyuga is a pretty fked up clan anyway.

The older sibling generally takes charge Hiashi was likely more talented than Hizashi so he wasn't bothered at that time. Hizashi was relegated to the side branch he became bitter when Neji was born. Although he accepted Hiashi to be better than him, Neji who was superior to Hinata would never be allowed to take charge of the clan. So the clan would've been ruled by a second rate Hyuga born into the head house. They would be forced into obedience to those with lesser talents. Your actually destroying the Hyuga clan and never allowing it to reach its fullest potential.

Hizashi and the other branch members or their children could never ascend based upon talent and would forever be forced to protect even the 1 who's a loser(Hinata) as called Hiashi. Even if they disagreed with the Head house the head house would blackmail them via the seal. Also Hiazashi never saw Hanabi and was dead long before she was born or grew up so he couldn't recognise her talent, perhaps he would've been different if he saw her.

As for Hinata and Hanabi, Hinata being five years older and having spared with Neji showed she wasnt very talented. So it's likely the Head house waited for Hanabi to come of age once she demonstrated her skills by beating Hinata somebody 5 years her senior, she cemented her position as leader of the head house. As for Hinata not taking the seal that's largely from Hiashi's own words "the Hyuga don't need her" meaning she's even less talented than the branch house members and would bring even more shame to the Hyuga name by being put into the branch. Hiashi sent her off to the ninja world instead in hopes of her experiencing the fate of others so as if she never happened. When kureani said she'd be around death (meaning Hinata could die) Hiashi responds the Hyuga don't need her(meaning good riddance). I hope that clears up the confusion.

Pretty sure it was stated Hiashi and Hizashi was on par(iirc) and Hizashi was regulated to the side branch because he was born later than Hiashi.

 

[Brady]

It's just so the main house can be spoiled and have slaves. Protecting the Byakugan doesn't require slavery.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Probably did. We know the side branch hated the main branch but supposedly was scared due to the caged bird seal. Idk tho the Hyuga is a pretty fked up clan anyway.



Pretty sure it was stated Hiashi and Hizashi was on par(iirc) and Hizashi was regulated to the side branch because he was born later than Hiashi.

This doesn't negate anything I've said by the way Hiashi would've had head house jutsu giving him the edge over Hizashi. I pretty much confirmed Hiashi was older it all ties up nicely.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Everything I've said is factual or implied. It may seem like shade, truth usually does. For some the truth is a bitter pill to swallow. You asked for an answer I gave it to you I explained everything about position being decided at birth take it or leave it we can't change facts.

Why would it be a bitter pill? I have nothing really against hinata, nor am I really for her, so your barking up the wrong tree here. Regardless, most of your Hinata “facts” don’t really say anything as far as why or even helping to understand their thought process for the whole system. They’re decided from birth pretty much, meaning that regardless of whether Hinata was as strong as she was or if she was kaguya level, she’d still be main branch, that’s why your ramblings about her are irrelevant, as even when hiashi dismisses her, she’s still a main branch member. Plus, honestly dude, do you think it really helps to bring that sh t in here considering it’s not one of their threads or a wank thread to begin with,I mean this in the nicest way possible, but take that sh t elsewhere

 

[MightGai]

There isn't a clear definition on how the clan branch is picked, main or side. We know it's not by skills (Since Neji is branch), we know it may not be due to age (since Hinata is older than Hanabi and both are main), and pretty much is not about heritage either, since Hiashi and Hizashi were separated. The only possible explaination would be that Hiashi and Hizashi may not have the same parents, and so they were split this way.

EDIT: Oh, they were twins, right ... well, I guess I don't know then

 

[salamander uchiha]

Why would it be a bitter pill? I have nothing really against hinata, nor am I really for her, so your barking up the wrong tree here. Regardless, most of your Hinata “facts” don’t really say anything as far as why or even helping to understand their thought process for the whole system. They’re decided from birth pretty much, meaning that regardless of whether Hinata was as strong as she was or if she was kaguya level, she’d still be main branch, that’s why your ramblings about her are irrelevant, as even when hiashi dismisses her, she’s still a main branch member. Plus, honestly dude, do you think it really helps to bring that sh t in here considering it’s not one of their threads or a wank thread to begin with,I mean this in the nicest way possible, but take that sh t elsewhere

I think there's been a misunderstanding the bitter pill comment was a general comment. The reason I brought up all those things was to explain reasons for being bitter, the reason Hinata was relevant is because we get the main exposure of this feud from when the story focuses on her. Hinata being main house isn't true since Hiashi kicked her out from the clan position and what is involved with in favour of Hanabi. I don't want to discuss a point which will go off topic as the thread will be derailed and I don't want to do that to your thread. I brought it up to address reasons of why Hinata wasn't given the branch house seal. I assure you this was in no way intended to derail the thread. I apologise if it's come across that way.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Hinata being main house isn't true

Another stupid fanfic by Salamander
Third Databook:

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Fourth Databook:

Having been blessed greatly with the talent of his clan, as a shinobi, Neji walked far ahead of Hinata. Hinata loves him like an actual brother. Currently, there is no antagonism between Hinata and Neji about the main family and branch family. From the bottom of her heart, Hinata trusts Neji, who crosses over the family lines to protect her by his true feelings.

Bolt Databook:

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I could never imagine being this desperate to bash :lol

 

[salamander uchiha]

Another stupid fanfic by Salamander
Third Databook:

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Fourth Databook:



Bolt Databook:

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I could never imagine being this desperate to bash :lol

Your trying to derail the topic and the last scan is clearly wrong since Hinata isn't the Head of the Hyuga clan.

All I'm going to say is Hiashi and Hizashi were born into the main house 1 became branch the other didn't. Hinata being kicked out and being called superfluous(extra)to the Hyuga clan as a whole let alone the head house shows her actual position. Superflous is extra or unnecessary in common English shows she doesn't really hold position in the clan as a whole. Her association is by birth only not by right. Now I'm not going to help you in you attempts to hijack this thread.

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Hiashi says we regard her as Superflous so I'll let you figure that.
superfluous

suːˈpəːflʊəs/

adjective

unnecessary, especially through being more than enough.

"the purchaser should avoid asking for superfluous information"

synonyms:surplus,*redundant,*unneeded,*not required,*excess,*extra

My parting gift from viz

 

[Made in Heaven]

Your trying to derail the topic and the last scan is clearly wrong since Hinata isn't the Head of the Hyuga clan.

Last scan is mistranslation, it's meant to say she is member of the main family, but regardless, your fanfic remains fanfic as shown by databooks.

All I'm going to say is Hiashi and Hizashi were born into the main house 1 became branch the other didn't. Hinata being kicked out and being called superfluous(extra)to the Hyuga clan as a whole let alone the head house shows her actual position. Superflous is extra or unnecessary in common English shows she doesn't really hold position in the clan as a whole. Her association is by birth only not by right. Now I'm not going to help you in you attempts to hijack this thread.

Can I get a scan of this nonsense being said in the manga? I'll wait

 

[salamander uchiha]

Last scan is mistranslation, it's meant to say she is member of the main family, but regardless, your fanfic remains fanfic as shown by databooks.

Its meant to say whatever you say.

Can I get a scan of this nonsense being said in the manga? I'll wait

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Hiashi says we regard her as Superflous so I'll let you figure that. And the purpose she's being given to Kurenai is because she's Superflous to the clan not just the Head house.

superfluous

suːˈpəːflʊəs/

adjective

unnecessary, especially through being more than enough.

"the purchaser should avoid asking for superfluous information"

synonyms:surplus,*redundant,*unneeded,*not required,*excess,*extra

My parting gift from viz

I'm not going to help you to hijack this thread.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Your trying to derail the topic and the last scan is clearly wrong since Hinata isn't the Head of the Hyuga clan.

All I'm going to say is Hiashi and Hizashi were born into the main house 1 became branch the other didn't. Hinata being kicked out and being called superfluous(extra)to the Hyuga clan as a whole let alone the head house shows her actual position. Superflous is extra or unnecessary in common English shows she doesn't really hold position in the clan as a whole. Her association is by birth only not by right. Now I'm not going to help you in you attempts to hijack this thread.

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Hiashi says we regard her as Superflous.
superfluous

suːˈpəːflʊəs/

adjective

unnecessary, especially through being more than enough.

"the purchaser should avoid asking for superfluous information"

synonyms:surplus,*redundant,*unneeded,*not required,*excess,*extra

My parting gift from viz

Such a fastidious break-down. Your clairvoyance is really remarkable. Keep up the good work, m8. As always, facts prevail over preferential notions.

Its meant to say whatever you say.

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Hiashi says we regard her as Superflous so I'll let you figure that. And the purpose she's being given to Kurenai is because she's Superflous to the clan not just the Head house.

superfluous

suːˈpəːflʊəs/

adjective

unnecessary, especially through being more than enough.

"the purchaser should avoid asking for superfluous information"

synonyms:surplus,*redundant,*unneeded,*not required,*excess,*extra

My parting gift from viz

I'm not going to help you to hijack this thread.

lmao. #facts