[Discussion] Why are you proud of your race instead of your own achievements?

[SSStylish]

Is normal = right? So far the only drawable conclusion in your statements is that it's a sentimental feeling nothing more.

It's neither wrong nor right to take pride in your child/parents/ancestors.

What kind of answer did you expect?

 

[HashiraMadara]

It's neither wrong nor right to take pride in your child/parents/ancestors.

What kind of answer did you expect?

not answer, justification.

 

[kimb]

Im glad people are finally addressing far right extremist ideologies on this forum.

 

[Yeah right]

Why people do it? I'll go with the Freudian excuse of needing a father figure. Which makes it even more sad when you substitute an entire ingroup as something that serves to protect, reinforce, and guide you to adulthood.

I just recently saw this in a Jordan Peterson video. I read a lot of **** riding comments. You should not "adore" or "love" or feel that "they are 100% right" people who, let's say, have achieved more than you.

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You criticize this man, BOOM, you get called out with "what have you achieved compared to him???" I want to ask these same people. what have you achieved because they are sounding like sheep to a man who apparently fights for individualism.

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

I think "race" is just a fúcking color and even tho im white i dont really consider a skin color to define who i am, its just a color smh i dont get why its a big deal for racists

 

[~Ethereal~]

Maybe, they haven't achieved their own goals.

 

[Guntah]

Its funny how white people accomplished more than any other race combined, yet no one but the people who shame other races actually feels proud about it. Go figure.

 

[Brady]

I think that you're talking about people who identify themselves by racial accomplishments. Taking pride in your heritage is one thing, but defining yourself by people that you aren't is another. Thinking that because you're Asian, you're Genghis Khan waiting to happen is just ridiculous, or that if you're white you're a Leonardo Da Vinci ticking time bomb.

A lot of people get a particular rush, a kind of high from racial pride. As a black person, I don't have much history to look back into unlike the other races besides the Native Americans, so I usually define myself by who I am and what I've done. I'd rather live a life knowing I changed things than come to the end of my life and looking back, knowing that I simply circle-jerked for years about things I never did.

If I were of another race like white or asian I guess it'd be easier for me to fall into the trap of identification of racial accomplishments.

 

[Narushima]

I do not care for my own race, the White race, per se. What I care for is a people’s capacity to produce men the likes of Socrates, Marcus Aurelius, the men of the enlightenment and American founding fathers, Darwin, Newton, Tesla etc etc.

What defines these men? Extraordinary cognitive ability and extraordinary character, traits which are not identically distributed across human populations.

I am convinced that of the current races of man, Europeans have the highest capacity to produce men of that calibre, Ashkenazi Jews and East Asians less (the Ashkenazim produce great theorists but have little ability for the practical, the reverse seems to be true for the East Asians) and most other races have little to no ability.

Putting aside my own reasons for the preservation of certain populations the fact is that racial and ethnic self-preservation is simply the instinct to preserve one's self and kin at a larger scale.

No one questions the Japanese maintaining Japan as an ethnostate of the Japanese people to this day, or the Nigerians or the Turks etc etc. It is only White Europeans who are by definition Nazis when they wish to preserve themselves as a people.

 

[Brady]

I do not care for my own race, the White race, per se. What I care for is a people’s capacity to produce men the likes of Socrates, Marcus Aurelius, the men of the enlightenment and American founding fathers, Darwin, Newton, Tesla etc etc.

What defines these men? Extraordinary cognitive ability and extraordinary character, traits which are not identically distributed across human populations.

I am convinced that of the current races of man, Europeans have the highest capacity to produce men of that calibre, Ashkenazi Jews and East Asians less (the Ashkenazim produce great theorists but they have little ability for the practical, the reverse seems to be true for the East Asians) and most other races have little to no ability.

Putting aside my own reasons for the preservation of certain populations the fact is that racial and ethnic self-preservation is simply the instinct to preserve one's self and kin at a larger scale.

No one questions the Japanese maintaining Japan as an ethnostate of the Japanese people to this day, or the Nigerians or the Turks etc etc. It is only White Europeans who are by definition Nazis when they wish to preserve themselves as a people.

Saying other races have no ability like European men is a bit of a statement. All you've probably learned is European culture, just like the most of us here. Have you looked into Asian history? Have you become familiar with the men and women they hold dear to their history? To believe entire races are incapable of producing unique people seems convenient for you, someone of the white race, but races have become far too large for not one person to break a rule among their own kinsmen.

Asian's are too focused on the practical to match the men you're talking about. It's just their culture, I doubt that they're incapable based by blood. Asians have the mental capacity, but their culture holds them back from being as adventurous as other races of people are in this day and time. Notice how Asian kids aren't really into politics and social movements? How they're always doctors and lawyers and what not? It isn't that they're incapable of producing enigmatic people, they just don't tolerate that sort of behavior.

People are born everyday, someone as we speak is probably being born into a non-white race with the cognitive and enigmatic qualities you believe to be exclusive to Europeans. People also die everyday, people aren't always confident or comfortable enough to become the type of people you're talking about. Most people today are just social media zombies, people with enigmatic potential are so few that the ones that do come about are probably sucked into a void of narcissism and hunger for attention.

 

[SSStylish]

People are born everyday, someone as we speak is probably being born into a non-white race with the cognitive and enigmatic qualities you believe to be exclusive to Europeans.

He didn't say that. He said the white race produces most of those kind of people and gave a few examples, not that they are exclusive to only the white race.

 

[Brady]

He didn't say that. He said the white race produces most of those kind of people and gave a few examples, not that they are exclusive to only the white race.

Fair enough, I read into that incorrectly.

 

[Sagebee]

Well it wrecked me once. :Sparks:

Yes acgnolia solos:Sparks: you filithy nazi

 

[Sagebee]

It's one thing to be proud of direct ancestors and maybe even your countries accomplishments but people that get pride from their race is just sad

White people who get pride from race need it for some self importance and black people need it as a defense mechanism from all the shit they go through in life

Tbh I don't care if you feel racial pride as long as your pride doesn't interfere with my life. And for those who want to claim they're genetically superior somehow I'm cool with that if you can actually scientifically back up what your saying.

 

[Taylabytes]

I think it's also partially due to the white people bashing that these extreme right-wingers think they have a reason to behave as they do. I mean the only countries that are told to embrace multiculturalism are predominantly white countries. You don't see non-white countries being put under that stigma. Being proud of your race is fine as long as you don't harm anyone else in the process. It's just unfortunate that an entire race is defined by some idiots who choose to be extremists and follow a long dead and gone agenda.

 

[Brady]

I think it's also partially due to the white people bashing that these extreme right-wingers think they have a reason to behave as they do. I mean the only countries that are told to embrace multiculturalism are predominantly white countries. You don't see non-white countries being put under that stigma. Being proud of your race is fine as long as you don't harm anyone else in the process. It's just unfortunate that an entire race is defined by some idiots who choose to be extremists and follow a long dead and gone agenda.

That's just the way things are right now. People that shouldn't be involved in political discourse tend to be the loudest and make the most sick generalizations possible about all races from every side. People are so used to only whites being called out that they had a hissy fit over Trump saying "many sides".

 

[Luminousi]

People take pride in their race as a way to feel like they are part of something bigger than themselves. Most people don't have major accomplishments that they can claim as their own. It's a lot easy to say "My country did this," or "My ancestors did this," than to actually go out and get your own achievements. It's almost like a crutch some people rely on to satisfy their on fragile self-esteem.

 

[Deadlift]

White Pride solos

Black pride wrecks

Gray pride stomps

 

[Belserion]

Gray pride stomps

Yellow Pride should be a thing too, lol.

 

[JStar King]

Yellow Pride should be a thing too, lol.

Puppy pride worldwide.

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