Showing just how nerfed Sasuke really was

Hagoromo sennin

Active member
Regular
Joined
Sep 3, 2016
Messages
902
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Despite experience in fighting the Rinnegan, Naruto almost got decimated by Edo Nagato. It's clear evidence that when a Rinnegan user isn't using corpses to fight, it's almost impossible to win. Sasuke essentially has new summons with his new Rinnegan along with a bunch of other abilities. If he unleashed them all Naruto would be too overwhelmed. He wasted the Rinnegan on the TB
Oh please,apart from Rinnegan Sasuke,who with has RSM naruto ever fought?
 

SeveN797

Active member
Regular
Joined
Jun 13, 2015
Messages
880
Kin
0💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Lol...Please get your sordid facts right,Yes Naruto used all those aforementioned abilities on Kaguya,and was the only individual almost keeping up with her,with Sasuke not being able to even touch her,Yet during their fight,Naruto couldnt use the Bijuu's mighty chakra,goduodama,understanding of all chakra and whatnot,and all the things you beautifully claimed Naruto used against Sasuke...it seemed like he was only using BM at best against a Rinnegan Sasuke...
Oh,and lets factor in the fact that Sasuke who was almost useless against Kaguya,was almost winning against someone who could hold his own against a God of chakra....
Please read the actuall manga.
oh and lets forget Kishi Obviously nerfed Naruto,so we can wank Sasuke....
Naruto performed better, because he got more free power ups from sage as I already mentioned. Sasuke couldn't touch her, because he was always going for the kill, like he tried to cut her with PS in lava dimension or chidori her head in the gravity dimension, obviously Kishi made those attempts failed, because the fight couldn't end so quick. Sasuke's ST was the main reason they even could stand a chance of sealing her, so Naruto "keeping" with her is irrelevant. Sasuke may performed worse against Kaguya, but that's because he was using his MS powers to fight her, while Naruto used all that I mentioned before. Sasuke got the most nerfed Rinnegan in history, which literally had 1 jutsu, when they were fighting Madara and Kaguya. Naruto was using his RSM and used TSB's aswell so what are you talking about him using only BM?

Bi.tch please,still doesnt change the fact that without itachi's eyes,he wouldnt even have any Doujutsu to begin with,so its still itachi's power,whether you like it or not...
You must be registered for see images

that looks like itachi gave him power,soo...moot points yeah?
Can you also show me a scan of those "itachi's powers" sasuke got? Last time I saw, he had the same amaterasu, same susanoo, and didn't have tsukuyomi.
 

whiteboy2345

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 31, 2016
Messages
2,120
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
That's why he lost every time:lmao:
Not to mention the fact that when they were both completely low on energy and possibly out of chakra, Sasuke physically overpowered him and stole his chakra that was given to him by Kurama. So even when it was a fair one on one, Naruto couldn't beat Sasuke and Sasuke took the chakra from him. Had Sasuke's Sharingan stayed on, he would have killed Naruto lmao.
 

Mellanoma

Active member
Elite
Joined
Oct 21, 2011
Messages
7,541
Kin
38💸
Kumi
24💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Wow,i cant believe anyone could be as stupid as you....
you posted Imgaes of Naruto when he hadnt attained RSM,while trying to derail RSM,nice logic fool.
You must be registered for see images

rememeber while Naruto was busy doing this?
Thats a Rinnegan,2 pairs infact..
Sigh...

I was responding to someone else and showing feats of Rinnengan and how Naruto knowing their abilities and still not stopping them.

As for:

you posted Imgaes of Naruto when he hadnt attained RSM,while trying to derail RSM,nice logic fool.
Do I even need to post Rinnegan Madara and Kaguya while Naruto had RSM?

I just ask because I noticed in your rant you only post image of yet another restricted Rinnegan user lol
 

salamander uchiha

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Mar 20, 2013
Messages
17,628
Kin
9,043💸
Kumi
6,082💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
STFU fool,Naruto has Godoudama as seen against Kaguya...
And saying it doesnt Negates all jutsu and turns everythig to dust is pure stupidity....
get your facts right or get the **** off sausage fapper.
The only fappers is you It doesn't negate anything. It is the means to cast the jutsu as if a noodles fapping reject like yourself would know the difference. We know fodderuto's level of fodder he had them yet couldn't use them.
 

Liquid Snake

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
3,741
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
He used amaterasu and MS genjutsu before getting EMS, with his own MS, what the hell are you talking about?

Last time im typing this
Naruto got RSM which increases the user's physical strength, increases speed, grants universal comprehension of all things, grants TSB, sensing ability rises as well, 9 different bijuu's chakra along with their chakra natures, instant knowledge of all his new abilities.

Sasuke got Rinnegan with 4 jutsus in total - Ameno, CT, Preta, Outer path to merge bijuu's chakra to his susanoo. Also he didn't have access and knowledge on them from the start like Naruto, only when the plot allowed him to use it.
Yea you're slow even obito said itachi planted amaretsu in his eye so when he sees obito he unleashes it. Itachi gave it to him kid. Naruto had physical strength from sm speed from sm and kcm to bsm. He was never shown to use universal understanding. How far did sensing ability rise? He could already sense anything with sm and could even sense hate. Wtf are you talking about. The bijuus chakra wasnt given by the sage so again what powers did he get from hago? Now Sasuke got way more abilities. Like indras arrow since it cant be used without rinnegan. Deva path.preta path.ameno and dimensions travel. Naruto didnt have understanding of all his abilities he didbt even know he could float. Against kaguya the bijuu helped him sometimes. But he still used his normal abilities so i dont see where your delusions come in
 

Liquid Snake

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
3,741
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Not to mention the fact that when they were both completely low on energy and possibly out of chakra, Sasuke physically overpowered him and stole his chakra that was given to him by Kurama. So even when it was a fair one on one, Naruto couldn't beat Sasuke and Sasuke took the chakra from him. Had Sasuke's Sharingan stayed on, he would have killed Naruto lmao.
Fair one on one? Sasuke failed even after he stole chakra. Had naruto not slipped Sasuke was dead even b4 that gtfoh
 

shadowcb

Active member
Regular
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
1,128
Kin
0💸
Kumi
-3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Sasuke never overpowered Naruto. He absorbed Naruto chakra when his fist was pressed against his stomach while Naruto's fist was against his head - to - Sasuke was just lucky the rinnegan gave him a new power he never had or used before.
 

SeveN797

Active member
Regular
Joined
Jun 13, 2015
Messages
880
Kin
0💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Yea you're slow even obito said itachi planted amaretsu in his eye so when he sees obito he unleashes it. Itachi gave it to him kid. Naruto had physical strength from sm speed from sm and kcm to bsm. He was never shown to use universal understanding. How far did sensing ability rise? He could already sense anything with sm and could even sense hate. Wtf are you talking about. The bijuus chakra wasnt given by the sage so again what powers did he get from hago? Now Sasuke got way more abilities. Like indras arrow since it cant be used without rinnegan. Deva path.preta path.ameno and dimensions travel. Naruto didnt have understanding of all his abilities he didbt even know he could float. Against kaguya the bijuu helped him sometimes. But he still used his normal abilities so i dont see where your delusions come in
gtfo troll itachi planted one time use amaterasu, it even had his MS pattern when used against Obito. Sasuke didn't even have MS back then, he used unconsciously itachi's amaterasu, and later on got his own amaterasu when awakened his own MS.

"Naruto had physical strength from sm speed from sm and kcm to bsm"
RSM boosted all of this aswell, unless you want to argue that previous forms of naruto you mentioned can also blitz Kaguya like he did while in RSM mode.

"How far did sensing ability rise?"
Enough to react to Kaguya and Sasuke's Ameno as we've seen.

I've never said bijuu's were directly given by the sage, but he told Kurama to stay inside Naruto and manage the meetings, so Naruto could lend their power if needed, so he gave him the option to keep using bijuu's powers.

Sasuke never used dimension travel against Naruto nice fanfic.

Fact is Naruto was given 9 bijuus chakra and fully working RSM, while Sasuke was given a nerfed rinnegan with 4 total jutsus, yet he still managed to tie.

Fully working RSM with all its abilities = nerfed rinnegan with 4 jutsus
 
Last edited:

shadowcb

Active member
Regular
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
1,128
Kin
0💸
Kumi
-3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
gtfo troll itachi planted one time use amaterasu, it even had his MS pattern when used against Obito. Sasuke didn't even have MS back then, he used unconsciously itachi's amaterasu, and later on got his own amaterasu when awakened his own MS.

"Naruto had physical strength from sm speed from sm and kcm to bsm"
RSM boosted all of this aswell, unless you want to argue that previous forms of naruto you mentioned can also blitz Kaguya like he did while in RSM mode.

"How far did sensing ability rise?"
Enough to react to Kaguya and Sasuke's Ameno as we've seen.

I've never said bijuu's were directly given by the sage, but he told Kurama to stay inside Naruto and manage the meetings, so Naruto could lend their power if needed, so he gave him the option to keep using bijuu's powers.

Sasuke never used dimension travel against Naruto nice fanfic.

Fact is Naruto was given 9 bijuus chakra and fully working RSM, while Sasuke was given a nerfed rinnegan with 4 total jutsus, yet he still managed to tie.

Fully working RSM with all its abilities = nerfed rinnegan with 4 jutsus
Quite the BS. Sasuke wasn't given a nerfed rinnegan. Both powers require time to fully understand, use, and master.

IE: Naruto wasn't sure he could heal Kakashi and when he did he wasn't sure how he did it. While Saske easliy understood how to use his rinnegan genjutsu and use it in an instant.

The rinnegan allowed Sasuke to instantly see the limbo clones while it took Naruto time to fully sense them.

Naruto held back against Sasuke. Sasuke would attack and then Naruto would use just enough power to counter his attack. If Naruto would have full understanding of his rsm or used all the tail beast chakra the battle would have been over quickly.
 

SeveN797

Active member
Regular
Joined
Jun 13, 2015
Messages
880
Kin
0💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Quite the BS. Sasuke wasn't given a nerfed rinnegan. Both powers require time to fully understand, use, and master.

IE: Naruto wasn't sure he could heal Kakashi and when he did he wasn't sure how he did it. While Saske easliy understood how to use his rinnegan genjutsu and use it in an instant.

The rinnegan allowed Sasuke to instantly see the limbo clones while it took Naruto time to fully sense them.

Naruto held back against Sasuke. Sasuke would attack and then Naruto would use just enough power to counter his attack. If Naruto would have full understanding of his rsm or used all the tail beast chakra the battle would have been over quickly.
Not really, I'd agreed if Naruto RSM was also nerfed, like it would increase only strength but not speed, or let's say it would grant him like only 2 TSB instead of i think standard are 9 or 10. Yet Naruto RSM was working as it should be, in opposite to Sasuke's rinnegan which didn't grant him all the abilities it normally does, more like he got 1/3.

Naruto healing Kakashi's eye is already a feat and display of his new powers, he doesn't really need to know how it's working, as long as he can do it.

Sasuke didn't use rinnegan genjutsu, it was a normal sharingan genjutsu he used through his rinnegan, since his rinnegan kept all his sharingan powers as've seen. Yes maybe it was amplified by his Rinnegan or it's chakra, still he didn't use any new jutsu there, it was sharingan genjutsu.

"Rinnegan allowed Sasuke to instantly see the limbo clones"
Obviously, that's how dojutsu or eyes works in general. Naruto didn't have such eyes, but he's sensing ability allowed him to fight with limbo clones anyways. Also I don't remember if it really took Naruto time to sense them, I think once Sasuke said that he can clearly see another Madara, Naruto told him he can't but he can sense him, you may provide scans if im wrong.

Anyways this fact doesn't really matter, I mean the vision his Rinnegan provided wasn't really useful in his fight against Naruto, while Naruto's enchanted RSM sensing allowed him to half-react to ameno.

Naruto wasn't holding back, cuz he was fighting for his life. You don't hold back when fighting for you life, unless you want to die. If Naruto tried to attack, Sasuke could also counter his attacks, not a big deal.

"If Naruto would have full understanding of his rsm or used all the tail beast chakra the battle would have been over quickly."

That's was I've been saying, he was given much more powers than Sasuke. Sasuke knew this and that he had to do something about this, so he simply took away bijuu's.

Naruto got a fully working RSM, was a jinchuuriki of the strongest bijuu's and if that's not enough, he could also lend chakra and power from other 8 bijuu's, Sasuke did the right thing, by taking bijuu's away, he tried to make it equal.
 

Liquid Snake

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 6, 2013
Messages
3,741
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
gtfo troll itachi planted one time use amaterasu, it even had his MS pattern when used against Obito. Sasuke didn't even have MS back then, he used unconsciously itachi's amaterasu, and later on got his own amaterasu when awakened his own MS.

"Naruto had physical strength from sm speed from sm and kcm to bsm"
RSM boosted all of this aswell, unless you want to argue that previous forms of naruto you mentioned can also blitz Kaguya like he did while in RSM mode.

"How far did sensing ability rise?"
Enough to react to Kaguya and Sasuke's Ameno as we've seen.

I've never said bijuu's were directly given by the sage, but he told Kurama to stay inside Naruto and manage the meetings, so Naruto could lend their power if needed, so he gave him the option to keep using bijuu's powers.

Sasuke never used dimension travel against Naruto nice fanfic.

Fact is Naruto was given 9 bijuus chakra and fully working RSM, while Sasuke was given a nerfed rinnegan with 4 total jutsus, yet he still managed to tie.

Fully working RSM with all its abilities = nerfed rinnegan with 4 jutsus
You're dumb ass ever can you prove itachi didnt transfer amaretsu to sasuke? Or that it was a one time use? He awakened the ms right after that battle. Like i said obito stated itachi gave it to him so ur bs fanfic is irrelevant. And if your dumb ass is gonna say rsm boosted all of narutos abilities getting sage chakra did the same to sasuke. U think a ems sasuke can chase down juubi madara **** no so stfu. With SM he could react to ameno its all about sensing and reflexes which sm gave him the bijuus helped him attain rsm like a juubi jin. The sage gave him sage chakra. I dont get what you mean by fully working rsm to 4 Rinnegan moves Sasuke has one ****ing eye and you want him with every rinnegan jutsu seen and uchiha jutsu get over yourself dumb **** im done even talking to you sasuke faps u guys are ignorant as shit
 

SeveN797

Active member
Regular
Joined
Jun 13, 2015
Messages
880
Kin
0💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
You're dumb ass ever can you prove itachi didnt transfer amaretsu to sasuke? Or that it was a one time use? He awakened the ms right after that battle. Like i said obito stated itachi gave it to him so ur bs fanfic is irrelevant. And if your dumb ass is gonna say rsm boosted all of narutos abilities getting sage chakra did the same to sasuke. U think a ems sasuke can chase down juubi madara **** no so stfu. With SM he could react to ameno its all about sensing and reflexes which sm gave him the bijuus helped him attain rsm like a juubi jin. The sage gave him sage chakra. I dont get what you mean by fully working rsm to 4 Rinnegan moves Sasuke has one ****ing eye and you want him with every rinnegan jutsu seen and uchiha jutsu get over yourself dumb **** im done even talking to you sasuke faps u guys are ignorant as shit
Good, I was about to write in my previous post that this is the last response to your posts, but i gave you one more chance to see if you will keep trolling or actually write something senseful. You're either trolling or retarded, i could easily keep solo'ing your weak ass arguments like that bullshit with itachi giving him amaterasu, but you're making it too easy and it's not funny anymore. Im done with you, call me when you quit trolling and want to have a real discussion, till then im adding you to ignore list lol k bye.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BLAZE

shelke

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Sep 16, 2012
Messages
22,716
Kin
13💸
Kumi
30💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Good, I was about to write in my previous post that this is the last response to your posts, but i gave you one more chance to see if you will keep trolling or actually write something senseful. You're either trolling or retarded, i could easily keep solo'ing your weak ass arguments like that bullshit with itachi giving him amaterasu, but you're making it too easy and it's not funny anymore. Im done with you, call me when you quit trolling and want to have a real discussion, till then im adding you to ignore list lol k bye.
Took you long enough. A piece of advice; Naruto wankers are none too bright. Better to quit while they are still way, way behind. :kd:
 
  • Like
Reactions: BLAZE

Hagoromo sennin

Active member
Regular
Joined
Sep 3, 2016
Messages
902
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Not really, I'd agreed if Naruto RSM was also nerfed, like it would increase only strength but not speed, or let's say it would grant him like only 2 TSB instead of i think standard are 9 or 10. Yet Naruto RSM was working as it should be, in opposite to Sasuke's rinnegan which didn't grant him all the abilities it normally does, more like he got 1/3.

Naruto healing Kakashi's eye is already a feat and display of his new powers, he doesn't really need to know how it's working, as long as he can do it.

Sasuke didn't use rinnegan genjutsu, it was a normal sharingan genjutsu he used through his rinnegan, since his rinnegan kept all his sharingan powers as've seen. Yes maybe it was amplified by his Rinnegan or it's chakra, still he didn't use any new jutsu there, it was sharingan genjutsu.

"Rinnegan allowed Sasuke to instantly see the limbo clones"
Obviously, that's how dojutsu or eyes works in general. Naruto didn't have such eyes, but he's sensing ability allowed him to fight with limbo clones anyways. Also I don't remember if it really took Naruto time to sense them, I think once Sasuke said that he can clearly see another Madara, Naruto told him he can't but he can sense him, you may provide scans if im wrong.

Anyways this fact doesn't really matter, I mean the vision his Rinnegan provided wasn't really useful in his fight against Naruto, while Naruto's enchanted RSM sensing allowed him to half-react to ameno.

Naruto wasn't holding back, cuz he was fighting for his life. You don't hold back when fighting for you life, unless you want to die. If Naruto tried to attack, Sasuke could also counter his attacks, not a big deal.

"If Naruto would have full understanding of his rsm or used all the tail beast chakra the battle would have been over quickly."

That's was I've been saying, he was given much more powers than Sasuke. Sasuke knew this and that he had to do something about this, so he simply took away bijuu's.

Naruto got a fully working RSM, was a jinchuuriki of the strongest bijuu's and if that's not enough, he could also lend chakra and power from other 8 bijuu's, Sasuke did the right thing, by taking bijuu's away, he tried to make it equal.
wow,what a weak ass post...
You must be registered for see images

'Are you just gonna stay on the defensive?'
'if you don't fight seriously,you will die'
These two things Sasuke said,already showed Naruto wasn't fighting to kill...He knows that,but his fans meh..
Even Naruto concluded it by saying 'I don't want to kill you!'
let me drop the last image real quick to seal the deal..
You must be registered for see images

then Sasuke came and said 'so you just started getting serious?'
if Naruto had been serious from the start,the fight would have been in his favour...
i just gave you guys just 1 reason why he was nerfed,and i know yall spill some bs again...well,i tried!
 
Last edited:

Naruto X Hunter

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jul 13, 2014
Messages
10,191
Kin
2,304💸
Kumi
1,263💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
some petty Sasuke fans,they are like goats,going on and on about profanities and what if's
He fought with the Rinnegan and 9 bijuu's Chakra,against a Naruto who had only HALF kurama,and still frigging lost..
he admitted he lost,he comformed to a new life,hes past his loss,why wont you guys move on?
I already corrected you on this.



You're dumb ass ever can you prove itachi didnt transfer amaretsu to sasuke? Or that it was a one time use? He awakened the ms right after that battle. Like i said obito stated itachi gave it to him so ur bs fanfic is irrelevant. And if your dumb ass is gonna say rsm boosted all of narutos abilities getting sage chakra did the same to sasuke. U think a ems sasuke can chase down juubi madara **** no so stfu. With SM he could react to ameno its all about sensing and reflexes which sm gave him the bijuus helped him attain rsm like a juubi jin. The sage gave him sage chakra. I dont get what you mean by fully working rsm to 4 Rinnegan moves Sasuke has one ****ing eye and you want him with every rinnegan jutsu seen and uchiha jutsu get over yourself dumb **** im done even talking to you sasuke faps u guys are ignorant as shit
You think a near blind dying Itachi can give out permanent powers? Lol
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: ~Ethereal~
Top