Showing just how nerfed Sasuke really was

[Cfighter]

Basically, this. Rinnegan is a broken eye. It has a counter and a bat from hell offense to every tech anyone can throw at it. At full capacity or without any Deux Ex machina involved, any Rinnegan user would win against his opponent. It's just a fact.

Yup, and that's just the basic bltch Rinnegan tech too (the Six Paths abilities). Then you start throwing in all the other unnecessarily ridiculous Rinnegan abilities that Sasuke and Madara began using, and it's just too much.

I don't know about everyone else here, but there gets to a point where a really cool/badass power (in this case the Rinnegan when it was introduced through Pain) can just get too cool, if you know what I mean, like to the point of it becoming just obnoxious. And that's what happened to Rinnegan to me—It was a super badass Dojutsu that let you use the abilities shown through Pain's Six Paths, and then Kishimoto either forgot about that or (for some reason) thought that was too broken as it was so he retconned those abilities in favor of—you guessed it—abilities that are still broken!

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Still butthurt?

Sasuke being nerfed is not a reflection on Sasuke, it's a reflection on Kishi's abilities to portray them as equal. But regardless, they're still equal. It's not real life, man.

 

[salamander uchiha]

What about Goudodama,That shit almost soloed the four re-animated Hokage's combined...
and Naruto is in possession of it...
a moveset that erases any Jutsu...
yet against their fight,he never used it,atleast to its full potential.

Godou damage doesn't erase anything that's bs fan fic. The erasing is done by a jutsu via the dama. Noodles has 0 access to that jutsu.

 

[SeveN797]

Naruto got RSM, all bijuu's chakra and instant knowledge of all his abilities, meanwhile Sasuke got Rinnegan with like 1 jutsu through the entire Madara and Kaguya fight Later on Kishi allowed him to use Deva, but fun fact, he only used CT for bijuu's and never used deva path directly on Naruto cuz he has no counter to ST or BT. Then Preta path, which was the most useful for Sasuke in his fight against Naruto, also was used only once in like last stage of the fight. Fun fact, when Sasuke finally used it, it was over, he was going to kill Naruto and then his 3T randomly turned off allowing Naruto to counter.

Funny how Sasuke was fighting Naruto mostly with his Sharingan powers, and not with his gifted power in opposite to Naruto who was relaying on his RSM, like that time when he had to defend himself with TSB's against V3 Susanoo arrows

 

[To Whatever]

Here is a list of OP abilities that were nerfed and canonically were super effective however Kishi limited sasuke severly to the point the fight ended in a draw.

No Deva Path abilities:

Clearly he is capable of doing Deva path abilities. Why wasn't Deva used during the fight?

Effortlessly CTing 9 Bijuu

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No Kagutsuchi (EMS Right Eye)

How come Sasuke couldn't wrap his Susanoo in Enton flames to use offensively and defensively? It was a clear counter for Naruto's chakra Cloak as he needs to remove it so the entire thing doesn't burn.

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Preta Path was SEVERELY Nerfed. MORE THAN ANY OTHER ABILITY as Sasuke should have absorbed a vast majority of Naruto's chakra based on feats.

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^^ How is it you can absorb 9 bijuu simultaneously but Kishi don't allow him to absorb the jutsu Naruto uses?

Sasuke should have absorbed this attack

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But as I stated before Plot restricted him severly.



Yet with all these restrictions. Him and Naruto still ended up equally hurt


Thoughts?

years of research?

 

[shelke]

Yup, and that's just the basic bltch Rinnegan tech too (the Six Paths abilities). Then you start throwing in all the other unnecessarily ridiculous Rinnegan abilities that Sasuke and Madara began using, and it's just too much.

I don't know about everyone else here, but there gets to a point where a really cool/badass power (in this case the Rinnegan when it was introduced through Pain) can just get too cool, if you know what I mean, like to the point of it becoming just obnoxious. And that's what happened to Rinnegan to me—It was a super badass Dojutsu that let you use the abilities shown through Pain's Six Paths, and then Kishimoto either forgot about that or (for some reason) thought that was too broken as it was so he retconned those abilities in favor of—you guessed it—abilities that are still broken!

Well, Kishimoto is in a habit of driving himself into a corner. And to counter that he gives the characters a foil of deus ex machina. It gets out of hand a lot of times.

 

[Nick01]

It's funny that so many of those abilities rely on who? Oh, Kurama, not Naruto.

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As usual people resort to crying about Kurama.

It's even more hilarious that the abilities that are mentioned in this thread regarding Sasuke stem from Itachi's eyes.

Naruto got RSM, all bijuu's chakra and instant knowledge of all his abilities, meanwhile Sasuke got Rinnegan with like 1 jutsu through the entire Madara and Kaguya fight Later on Kishi allowed him to use Deva, but fun fact, he only used CT for bijuu's and never used deva path directly on Naruto cuz he has no counter to ST or BT. Then Preta path, which was the most useful for Sasuke in his fight against Naruto, also was used only once in like last stage of the fight. Fun fact, when Sasuke finally used it, it was over, he was going to kill Naruto and then his 3T randomly turned off allowing Naruto to counter.

Funny how Sasuke was fighting Naruto mostly with his Sharingan powers, and not with his gifted power in opposite to Naruto who was relaying on his RSM, like that time when he had to defend himself with TSB's against V3 Susanoo arrows

Stop talking like Naruto used all of his abilities as well. If he did, he'd end Sasuke before he could whip out PS. Plot/Naruto's mercy basically helped Sasuke last as long as he did. Good thing Naruto only fought to match.

 

[Mellanoma]

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As usual people resort to crying about Kurama.

It's even more hilarious that the abilities that are mentioned in this thread regarding Sasuke stem from Itachi's eyes.


Stop talking like Naruto used all of his abilities as well. If he did, he'd end Sasuke before he could whip out PS. Plot/Naruto's mercy basically helped Sasuke last as long as he did. Good thing Naruto only fought to match.

Based on manga.

Unrestricted Rinnengan will always trump an unrestricted NON-Juubi Jin.
Just face it

Rinnengan > All other abilities

 

[Nick01]

Based on manga.

Unrestricted Rinnengan will always trump an unrestricted NON-Juubi Jin.
Just face it

Rinnengan > All other abilities

Naruto is a Pseudo JJ.

And I disagree. Rinnegan like other abilities can be countered.

RSM>Rinnegan.

 

[Warlocks]

Naruto is a Pseudo JJ.

And I disagree. Rinnegan like other abilities can be countered.

RSM>Rinnegan.

sasuke fan act like that naruto never counter a Rinnegan user

naruto fought every Rinnegan user and beat them too

+he knows every Rinnegan jutsu and knows how to counter them

 

[Liquid Snake]

Yea use deva path and waste chakra when naruto easily destroys any CT neg diff.

Using enton on susanoo wouldn't counter narutos cloak it is made of chakra if naruto is at full strength the part of the cloak he releases gets regenerated. Just another waste of chakra on sasukes part.

Sasuke can absorb chakra but when did naruto release any jutsus when they werent clashing? Sasuke faps want him to have susanoo active, use chidori and still absorb chakra?? Wow just wow lmao

You're saying plot restricted sasuke but naruto was far more restricted. By not have his killer instinct. Not being able to regenerate tsb. Not being able to utilize his understanding of all things to use countless jutsus and also his frog kumite and he didnt even use any of the techs used against kaguya who also can absorb chakra.

Sasuke faps are the worse take your L and move on

 

[Liquid Snake]

sasuke fan act like that naruto never counter a Rinnegan user

naruto fought every Rinnegan user and beat them too

+he knows every Rinnegan jutsu and knows how to counter them

This and even if he never fought a rinnegan user his understanding of all things will give him knowledge on how to beat him its simple

 

[Liquid Snake]

Based on manga.

Unrestricted Rinnengan will always trump an unrestricted NON-Juubi Jin.
Just face it

Rinnengan > All other abilities

Maybe if that non juubi jin didnt have rsm

 

[Liquid Snake]

Naruto got RSM, all bijuu's chakra and instant knowledge of all his abilities, meanwhile Sasuke got Rinnegan with like 1 jutsu through the entire Madara and Kaguya fight Later on Kishi allowed him to use Deva, but fun fact, he only used CT for bijuu's and never used deva path directly on Naruto cuz he has no counter to ST or BT. Then Preta path, which was the most useful for Sasuke in his fight against Naruto, also was used only once in like last stage of the fight. Fun fact, when Sasuke finally used it, it was over, he was going to kill Naruto and then his 3T randomly turned off allowing Naruto to counter.

Funny how Sasuke was fighting Naruto mostly with his Sharingan powers, and not with his gifted power in opposite to Naruto who was relaying on his RSM, like that time when he had to defend himself with TSB's against V3 Susanoo arrows

So you're saying Sasuke got all his moves right before him and naruto fought and naruto lost all his moves he used against madara and kaguya? But Sasuke was the one nerfed??? My what brains you have

 

[Oblivionx]

May be he didn't have what it takes to use rinnegan to it's max potential. Or may be having one eye limited him.

 

[LustyLover]

sasuke fan act like that naruto never counter a Rinnegan user

naruto fought every Rinnegan user and beat them too

+he knows every Rinnegan jutsu and knows how to counter them

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[SeveN797]

So you're saying Sasuke got all his moves right before him and naruto fought and naruto lost all his moves he used against madara and kaguya? But Sasuke was the one nerfed??? My what brains you have

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I can't even understand what are you trying to say here, so im just going to refer to second part of your sentence. What moves did Naruto "lose" that he used against madara and kaguya? The only one i can think of is tailed beasts RS, but that's because Sasuke took away bijuu's and Naruto was already running low on tailed beasts chakra.

 

[Jiren]

Thats because Rinnegan is truly the strongest when you fuse all abillities into the a genius. One becomes the ultimate being.

 

[Liquid Snake]

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I can't even understand what are you trying to say here, so im just going to refer to second part of your sentence. What moves did Naruto "lose" that he used against madara and kaguya? The only one i can think of is tailed beasts RS, but that's because Sasuke took away bijuu's and Naruto was already running low on tailed beasts chakra.

What im saying is Sasuke showed none of these paths when fighting kaguya or madara then all of a sudden he has these moves when he is about to fight naruto. The bijuu being sealed has nothing to do with naruto using their moves. They were sealed in kaguya and madara before that. And thats another nerf how did the tailed beast chakra go low he barely used them. He used shikaku. Hachibi once. 5 tails twice and son goku twice and the rest once. But it just so happens before his fight with Sasuke the chakra is low? Sounds like naruto was nerfed. Also he didnt use his air palms which could easily damage susanoo. He lost his ability to regenerate tsb. And for some reason he didnt use mass clones like against kaguya and no Sasuke couldn't tell the real one he because he thought for a second kaguya had killed naruto. It was really naruto that was nerfed

 

[whiteboy2345]

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lmao home boy almost lost his damn soul