Adult Sasuke vs Hokage Naruto

[UnknownJin]

Madara as a modified edo with hashirama cells/power and rinnegan absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken with preta and claimed it was "too much energy", even his hands were smoking.

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The fact you guys believe sasuke could absorb something of this magnitude is beyond me. Nevermind the fact Naruto has matured and possess full kurama and hashiroid arm now.

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Wow...this wank, and 3rd Raikage tanked it like nothing...

 

[Michael]

Wow...this wank, and 3rd Raikage tanked it like nothing...

What does third raikage have to do with preta path? :sdo:

 

[UnknownJin]

What does third raikage have to do with preta path? :sdo:

in the 1st image Madara is talking about RS and its power ... so i was guessing you're talking about RS ? i dont know what u wanna say

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Madara as a modified edo with hashirama cells/power and rinnegan absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken with preta and claimed it was "too much energy", even his hands were smoking.

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The fact you guys believe sasuke could absorb something of this magnitude is beyond me. Nevermind the fact Naruto has matured and possess full kurama and hashiroid arm now.

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He didn't even think of absorbing Momo's bijuu dama. His preta has limitations obviously. Not to mention to effectively use preta he'll need to get close where frog kata would neg him before he's even able to touch Naruto.
Preta won't work.
Rinnegan genjutsu won't work. (He'd have used it in VoTE 2 otherwise)
Naruto is aware of ameno and won't be caught off guard again so that too won't work.

Sasuke's chances of winning are absolute zero.

 

[Multiply]

Base Naruto was getting overwhelmed pretty easily. He parried one blow, dodged another but was smacked away by Momoshiki's kick. Sasuke's clash against Kinshiki lasted longer and actually involved weaponry while Momoshiki attacked Naruto barehanded, another reason why this comparison is faulty.

Also Base Naruto can't even take on Base Momoshiki.

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RSM Naruto wasn't easily pushing him back either. He landed a single attack. So nah, Naruto's speed is not going to a game changer. Strength would be an issue if it weren't for Sasuke's Ninjutsu, so that doesn't help him here either.

The bait is strong.

 

[Michael]

in the 1st image Madara is talking about RS and its power ... so i was guessing you're talking about RS ? i dont know what u wanna say

I see :elmo:

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara as a modified edo with hashirama cells/power and rinnegan absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken with preta and claimed it was "too much energy", even his hands were smoking.

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The fact you guys believe sasuke could absorb something of this magnitude is beyond me. Nevermind the fact Naruto has matured and possess full kurama and hashiroid arm now.

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Sasuke w/ Hagoromo's power>>>> Gimped Edo Madara. Guy who can use the Rinnegan's full power>>>Guy who cannot because he has fake eyes. Idk why you are talking about his Avatar when that is restricted along with all associated techs. :lol

The bait is strong.

If by "bait" you mean the undeniable truth then I agree, it is very strong.

 

[Michael]

Sasuke w/ Hagoromo's power>>>> Gimped Edo Madara. Idk why you are talking about his Avatar when that is restricted along with all associated techs.

Doesn't change the fact Naruto can output even greater power without an avatar. Also the edo madara had hashirama's sage mode, the amount of natural energy he could hold/collect >>> any version of sasuke.

 

[KidGamer65]

Doesn't change the fact Naruto can output even greater power without an avatar. Also the edo madara had hashirama's sage mode, the amount of natural energy he could hold/collect >>> any version of sasuke.

No, he can't. Naruto's Avatar is his power on top of his power in his humanoid mode. How is Naruto+Avatar going to put out less power overall than Naruto himself? Use common sense please. The strongest attack Naruto has ever shown in this Manga was in that Avatar after Kurama gathered a bunch of Nature Energy for him to use. Naruto on his own is nowhere near that level let alone Naruto w/o his Avatar.

Edo Madara didn't have Hashirama's Sage Mode either. :lol

 

[Michael]

No, he can't. Naruto's Avatar is his power on top of his power in his humanoid mode. How is Naruto+Avatar going to put out less power overall than Naruto himself? Use common sense please. The strongest attack Naruto has ever shown in this Manga was in that Avatar after Kurama gathered a bunch of Nature Energy for him to use. Naruto on his own is nowhere near that level let alone Naruto w/o his Avatar.

Edo Madara didn't have Hashirama's Sage Mode either. :lol

Naruto as a teen was launching rasenshuriken without an avatar that dwarfed sasuke's perfect susanoo.

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Also madara as an edo did possess all of hashirama's powers/abilities, just because he didn't use sm until revived doesn't mean he didn't have it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto as a teen was launching rasenshuriken without an avatar that dwarfed sasuke's perfect susanoo.

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Also madara as an edo did possess all of hashirama's powers/abilities, just because he didn't use sm until revived doesn't mean he couldn't or didn't have it.

Not stronger than 2 giant FRS with as much NE in it as Kurama could possibly gather so that's irrelevant to this discussion.

Wrong and if you want to prove you are right (which you can't anyway) I suggest you post a scan. Madara as an Edo possessed Mokuton. He didn't get Sage Mode until he took it from Hashirama. Keyword: "Took". Meaning he didn't have it before.

 

[Michael]

Not stronger than 2 giant FRS with as much NE in it as Kurama could possibly gather so that's irrelevant to this discussion.

Wrong and if you want to prove you are right (which you can't anyway) I suggest you post a scan. Madara as an Edo possessed Mokuton. He didn't get Sage Mode until he took it from Hashirama. Keyword: "Took". Meaning he didn't have it before.

The thread is about Hokage Naruto vs adult sasuke and if you believe adult Naruto with full kurama, hashirama arm, and his own matured chakra + techniques can't output more power than his teen self than thats your problem.

As for madara even though he possess hashirama powers/abilities he was no sage, meaning he could not gather natural energy on his own. So the only way he could access SM was by absorbing natural energy from another.

However it doesn't change the fact the amount of natural energy he could hold >>> any form of sasuke. To claim sasuke could is equivalent to saying sasuke can hold more natural energy than hashirama himself. Even after madara absorbed hashirama's natural energy he mocked him stating "only this much power?" meaning madara could potentially hold even greater amounts of NE than hashirama thanks to his modifications.

 

[KidGamer65]

The thread is about Hokage Naruto vs adult sasuke and if you believe adult Naruto with full kurama, hashirama arm, and his own matured chakra + techniques can't output more power than his teen self than thats your problem.

As for madara even though he possess hashirama powers/abilities he was no sage, meaning he could not gather natural energy on his own. So the only way he could access SM was by absorbing natural energy from another.

However it doesn't change the fact the amount of natural energy he could hold >>> any form of sasuke. To claim sasuke could is equivalent to saying sasuke can hold more natural energy than hashirama himself. Even after madara absorbed hashirama's natural energy he mocked him stating "only this much power?" meaning madara could potentially hold even greater amounts of NE than hashirama thanks to his modifications.

With his Avatar he can, without his Avatar he cannot. That simple. What's even funnier is that you are ignoring the fact that the above is only possible with excess Nature Energy, so that's not Teen Naruto vs. Adult Naruto. That's Teen Naruto w/ world's NE vs. Adult Naruto who isn't allowed to use Kurama.

Yes, meaning he did not have Sage Mode. :lol

The rest is based on nothing. He absorbed residual Senjutsu chakra from a weakened Base Hashirama. :lol Then we have the fact you have no idea what you are talking about. The way absorption vs. Senjutsu chakra works is if the NE you take in outweighs your chakra reserves causing an imbalance in Spirit, Physical and Nature energies you turn to stone. Adult Sasuke w/ half Hagoromo's chakra has more chakra than a gimped Edo Madara and he has better chakra control by feats. Thus it'll be harder to make him turn to stone.

Naruto can't do that w/ the chakra in FRS and Rasengan techniques. Never hinted, never shown, not logically possible.

Then we also have the fact your comparison makes no sense. Living Madara>Edo Madara. You are claiming Naruto can bypass Preta w/ his Rasen Shuriken because Edo Madara said regular FRS was too much energy and also using Living Madara as evidence of his ability to handle Senjutsu Chakra yet again, Living Madara>Edo Madara.

 

[Michael]

With his Avatar he can, without his Avatar he cannot. That simple. What's even funnier is that you are ignoring the fact that the above is only possible with excess Nature Energy, so that's not Teen Naruto vs. Adult Naruto. That's Teen Naruto w/ world's NE vs. Adult Naruto who isn't allowed to use Kurama.

Yes, meaning he did not have Sage Mode. :lol

The rest is based on nothing. He absorbed residual Senjutsu chakra from a weakened Base Hashirama. :lol Then we have the fact you have no idea what you are talking about. The way absorption vs. Senjutsu chakra works is if the NE you take in outweighs your chakra reserves causing an imbalance in Spirit, Physical and Nature energies you turn to stone. Adult Sasuke w/ half Hagoromo's chakra has more chakra than a gimped Edo Madara and he has better chakra control by feats. Thus it'll be harder to make him turn to stone.

Naruto can't do that w/ the chakra in FRS and Rasengan techniques. Never hinted, never shown, not logically possible.

Then we also have the fact your comparison makes no sense. Living Madara>Edo Madara. You are claiming Naruto can bypass Preta w/ his Rasen Shuriken because Edo Madara said regular FRS was too much energy and also using Living Madara as evidence of his ability to handle Senjutsu Chakra yet again, Living Madara>Edo Madara.

If adult Naruto decided to use rsm in conjunction with KCM and other bijuu chakra the result would be far stronger than the naruto that fought kaguya. No avatar required to completely obliterate or blitz sasuke who can't even use ps.

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Edo madara aborbed sage art rasenshuriken(senjutsu) whilst living madara absorbed raw natural energy from the source hashirama. I'm done arguing the whole madara thing, I know what I believe. You say I have no proof of madara holding more NE than sasuke which by feats he has. You post a scan of any sasuke ever possessing more NE than madara, not any of your fanfics based on his chakra received from hagoromo.

 

[KidGamer65]

If adult Naruto decided to use rsm in conjunction with KCM and other bijuu chakra the result would be far stronger than the naruto that fought kaguya.

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I'm done arguing the whole madara thing, I know what I believe. You say I have no proof of madara holding more NE than sasuke which by feats he has. You post a scan of any sasuke ever possessing more NE than madara.

Yet without his Avatar none of that matters. If you ever feel like actually using Manga scans to support your argument instead of hoping I take your word for it I'll be waiting.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Sasuke with clones With Katana, Chidori katana, all variants of chidori and a meterior busting chidori. Along with several enton variants and Preta path absorbing abilities

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-RSM Cho Odoma Rasengan >> Sasuke clones 's chidori ,and cant be stopped with enton .Not sure how good clones's preta path is .if it can absorb RSM COR of the size of the one in boruto movie and bigger then yeah Sasuke's clones can Survive Naruto's clones but not overpower them .if they can't absorb it ,then Naruto's clones would obviously overpower Sasuke's clones with COR barrage and by outnumbering .

Adult Sasuke = Hokage Naruto in speed and the strength advantage is a much smaller gap then it was when they were teens. So yea Sasuke has a huge advantage with in CQC

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Adult Sasuke isn't as fast as RSM Naruto .no feats suggests that at all .the gap in strength is still huge too .so yeah no Sasuke have no advantage in CQC at all .the best he and his clones can do is spamming Enton around them to prevent CQC in the first place which is an effective counter for Naruto's superior speed , Strength and frog kata as well .otherwise he gets destroyed in CQC .

Sasuke said he feel/felt NE. You do know that's a synonym for sense right? Where in the manga Sasuke said 'the only reason I feel this NE because it's such a huge amount'? I'm not here to discuss your assumptions and speculations. Sasuke couldn't see it but sense it no doubt, and Sasuke and Nagato are two different people, don't understand the comparison here.

Assumptions and speculations!?are you the same DHOH who claimed Sasuke can use PS hundreds of times just because you said so ,just because you want Sasuke to win whatever .
Yes the amount matters .the flow of enormous amount of NE can cause changes in the atmosphere around them which can be felt by even those who can't sense NE .Sasuke couldnt sense that Naruto's avatar clone was gathering NE which is a proof that he can't sense NE .
Sasuke and pein both possesses Rinnegan .if pein couldn't see it then Sasuke can't .

So again frog kata is useless, it would only get him killed.

It may be useless but not because of the claim that Sasuke can sense it .It is because Sasuke can prevent CQC by spamming Enton around him .

Clones would keep Naruto alive for a while but eventually he'll run out of chakra or Sasuke will take his chakra, or he'll simply make to many mistakes.

Sasuke can't overpower Naruto and his clones unless he could get far enough to use Kirin or CT .Even then kirin can be neutralised with RS or COFRS .RS should be enough .Meteorite CT can be destroyed by multiple RSM COFRS .
Have you just said Naruto's chakra would run out faster than Sasuke's? Are you serious?
"Or he'll simply make a mistake "isn't an argument.i cant believe that you have just claimed that Sasuke would destroy Naruto and your explanation for how would Sasuke land a single hit on Naruto is Naruto making a mistake or running out of chakra lmfao .

 

[Michael]

Yet without his Avatar none of that matters. If you ever feel like actually using Manga scans to support your argument instead of hoping I take your word for it I'll be waiting.

Exactly what do you mean by avatar? OP simply restricts PS and Kurama avatar, not kurama in general. Are you suggesting Naruto can't use Kurama Chakra Mode or Rikudou Sage Mode?

 

[shelke]

Nagashi takes care of all the clones with ease.

 

[Michael]

@Shelke

As if a little static would even phase Naruto's clones, his kagebunshin tanked far worse the chidori nagashi during the war. Adult Naruto wrecks.

 

[KidGamer65]

Exactly what do you mean by avatar? OP simply restricts PS and Kurama avatar, not kurama in general. Are you suggesting Naruto can't use Kurama Chakra Mode or Rikudou Sage Mode?

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is restricted. Meaning Naruto does not have his full power. So going on and on about how he's stronger than a full powered Teen Naruto is irrelevant. This is not a hard concept to grasp.

If you are saying outside of Avatars Adult Naruto would still be better than it doesn't matter because Sasuke still wins.

I'm going to let you use your brain and figure out the answer to the bold on your own.