Adult Sasuke vs Hokage Naruto

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Chakra is nothing but humans life energy its type of energy just like nature energy. The fact that those 2 can be mixed and the fact that Juubi chakra is said to be nothing but huge amount of nature energy just shows how retarded you are .

Repeating the same shit won't help you. If you're to dumb to know how chakra is made in Naruto ill gladly post a scan for you.
 

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And how does that help?
Just showing RSM doesn't have a chakra cloak and is defined by his eyes alone. The form he used after was simply Naruto combining RSM with kurama chakra cloak and bijuu chakras. :sigar:
 

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Just showing RSM doesn't have a chakra cloak and is defined by his eyes alone. The form he used after was simply Naruto combining RSM with kurama chakra cloak and bijuu chakras. :sigar:

I never said Naruto didn't have RSM..
 

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I never said Naruto didn't have RSM..

Yep RSM Naruto with full Kurama and the nine bijuu chakra wrecks adult Sasuke each and every time. The gap here is too big.
 

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Yep RSM Naruto with full Kurama and the nine bijuu chakra wrecks adult Sasuke each and every time. The gap here is too big.

Depends on how you look at it.

Naruto will always out power Sasuke as he is a raw AOE power dealer.

However Sasuke has utilities that could beat Naruto.

To give Naruto Full Kurama you would have to give Sasuke Full control and use of the Rinnengan
 

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Sasuke has used Preta Path, Ameno and Chibaku Tensei in canon Naruto post VoTE does not have the Gudo Dama. If he did they'd manifest next to him when he used his cloak like they used to, yet they don't. The two obviously aren't comparable so I don't know what you thought you had when you made this post.

And has Sasuke used Preta Path or Chibaku Tensei post VOTE? You're going out your way to mention what Naruto hasn't done as Hokage, yet you're not doing the same for current Sasuke, which is interesting considering he'd need two hands for Chibaku Tensei, something he lacks yet you're mentioning it anyways. It seems like you're implying Sasuke's using the Asura Path despite never doing so in the series.

Logically, Sasuke can use all the Rinnegan abilities since they're just the basic abilities granted to the user. I really don't see a reason why they can't be mentioned in this match.

And in canon, TSBs manifest when the user wants them too. It's the same reason Obito and Naruto didn't have them activated until they wanted to use them for attacking despite using Six Paths Senjutsu.

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Which fits what Minato stated about them being a standby ability.

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Which Toneri demonstrated perfectly.

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No reason to think other TSB users can't do the same, especially since Obito has shown the capabilities of recreating them.

If we mention all the abilities they should be capable of doing, Naruto would win. Even without all the feats, he'd likely win due to his flying capabilities.
 

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And has Sasuke used Preta Path or Chibaku Tensei post VOTE? You're going out your way to mention what Naruto hasn't done as Hokage, yet you're not doing the same for current Sasuke, which is interesting considering he'd need two hands for Chibaku Tensei, something he lacks yet you're mentioning it anyways. It seems like you're implying Sasuke's using the Asura Path despite never doing so in the series.

Logically, Sasuke can use all the Rinnegan abilities since they're just the basic abilities granted to the user. I really don't see a reason why they can't be mentioned in this match.

And in canon, TSBs manifest when the user wants them too. It's the same reason Obito and Naruto didn't have them activated until they wanted to use them for attacking despite using Six Paths Senjutsu.

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Which fits what Minato stated about them being a standby ability.

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Which Toneri demonstrated perfectly.

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No reason to think other TSB users can't do the same, especially since Obito has shown the capabilities of recreating them.

If we mention all the abilities they should be capable of doing, Naruto would win. Even without all the feats, he'd likely win due to his flying capabilities.

It doesn't matter if he has or not. Rinnegan abilities and jutsu in general don't vanish with age. I never even mentioned Asura Path, I actually forgot Sasuke only had a single arm. I agree that logically Sasuke is capable of using all 6 Paths, but that's Sasuke. There's an actual reason why Naruto can't use the Gudo Dama. You aren't even addressing the problem here. Who said that "Naruto can't do it because he hasn't shown it?" No one.

The bold is irrelevant and false. They activate when RSM and Juubi Mode are activated completely. Naruto wasn't wearing his cloak and Obito wasn't even in control. There is no "choosing" to activate them or not once in these modes. If you have them they come, if you don't then they don't come.

-Minato took Madara's Gudo Dama, he could not make more hence the point of the strategy to take them in the first place, because they knew he wouldn't be able to reform them.

-Naruto used up all but 3 Gudo Dama by the time he fought Sasuke, he could not make more. Then he lost the rest of them in that fight and hasn't been seen with them since.

What you are saying doesn't even make sense. Because Minato stated they are always on standby instead of being activated, somehow that means the user can create them? Zero correlation and that statement disproves you. They are on standby and they are not activated from nothing.

Obito has never recreated a Gudo Dama that was taken from him on panel nor can he as they are not activated. They are just like any ordinary weapon. Take the weapon and there is no getting it back.

If we mention all abilities they are capable of performing then Sasuke would still easily win. If flight is what you think gives Naruto the win then that much is already clear. Deva Path is capable of flight. Rinnegan's Bird summon is capable of flight. Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin can push and pull Naruto regardless of him flying. Ameno lets him teleport anywhere including to Naruto if he tries to fly out of Sasuke's range. Being able to fly doesn't change the fact that 100% of the damage he can do from a distance relies on chakra based techs like Rasengan and FRS, things Preta Path easily absorbs. If we give them all feats they should logically have this match becomes a one sided slaughter for Sasuke.
 

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Depends on how you look at it.

Naruto will always out power Sasuke as he is a raw AOE power dealer.

However Sasuke has utilities that could beat Naruto.

To give Naruto Full Kurama you would have to give Sasuke Full control and use of the Rinnengan

What utilities do you mean. I didn't much in terms of Sasuske's improvements post war.

Well as I said haven't seen much from Sasuke in full control.

Adult RSM Naruto with full Kurama will be too much even for him and unlike VoTE 2 Naruto wll be fighting to kill and not save a friend.
 

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Rinnegan Genjutsu. GG.

It doesn't matter if he has or not. Rinnegan abilities and jutsu in general don't vanish with age. I never even mentioned Asura Path, I actually forgot Sasuke only had a single arm. I agree that logically Sasuke is capable of using all 6 Paths, but that's Sasuke. There's an actual reason why Naruto can't use the Gudo Dama. You aren't even addressing the problem here. Who said that "Naruto can't do it because he hasn't shown it?" No one.

The bold is irrelevant and false. They activate when RSM and Juubi Mode are activated completely. Naruto wasn't wearing his cloak and Obito wasn't even in control. There is no "choosing" to activate them or not once in these modes. If you have them they come, if you don't then they don't come.

-Minato took Madara's Gudo Dama, he could not make more hence the point of the strategy to take them in the first place, because they knew he wouldn't be able to reform them.

-Naruto used up all but 3 Gudo Dama by the time he fought Sasuke, he could not make more. Then he lost the rest of them in that fight and hasn't been seen with them since.

What you are saying doesn't even make sense. Because Minato stated they are always on standby instead of being activated, somehow that means the user can create them? Zero correlation and that statement disproves you. They are on standby and they are not activated from nothing.

Obito has never recreated a Gudo Dama that was taken from him on panel nor can he as they are not activated. They are just like any ordinary weapon. Take the weapon and there is no getting it back.

If we mention all abilities they are capable of performing then Sasuke would still easily win. If flight is what you think gives Naruto the win then that much is already clear. Deva Path is capable of flight. Rinnegan's Bird summon is capable of flight. Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin can push and pull Naruto regardless of him flying. Ameno lets him teleport anywhere including to Naruto if he tries to fly out of Sasuke's range. Being able to fly doesn't change the fact that 100% of the damage he can do from a distance relies on chakra based techs like Rasengan and FRS, things Preta Path easily absorbs. If we give them all feats they should logically have this match becomes a one sided slaughter for Sasuke.

You prolonged it needlessly. Should've just asked him to bring proof of this magical recreation and repair of Balls. It's kinda like those shitty arguments where Naruto supposedly throws away his whole Avatar and then magically reforms it to take Amaterasu off of himself. Shit arguments all around.
 
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It doesn't matter if he has or not. Rinnegan abilities and jutsu in general don't vanish with age. I never even mentioned Asura Path, I actually forgot Sasuke only had a single arm. I agree that logically Sasuke is capable of using all 6 Paths, but that's Sasuke. There's an actual reason why Naruto can't use the Gudo Dama. You aren't even addressing the problem here. Who said that "Naruto can't do it because he hasn't shown it?" No one.

The bold is irrelevant and false. They activate when RSM and Juubi Mode are activated completely. Naruto wasn't wearing his cloak and Obito wasn't even in control. There is no "choosing" to activate them or not once in these modes. If you have them they come, if you don't then they don't come.

-Minato took Madara's Gudo Dama, he could not make more hence the point of the strategy to take them in the first place, because they knew he wouldn't be able to reform them.

-Naruto used up all but 3 Gudo Dama by the time he fought Sasuke, he could not make more. Then he lost the rest of them in that fight and hasn't been seen with them since.

What you are saying doesn't even make sense. Because Minato stated they are always on standby instead of being activated, somehow that means the user can create them? Zero correlation and that statement disproves you. They are on standby and they are not activated from nothing.

Obito has never recreated a Gudo Dama that was taken from him on panel nor can he as they are not activated. They are just like any ordinary weapon. Take the weapon and there is no getting it back.

If we mention all abilities they are capable of performing then Sasuke would still easily win. If flight is what you think gives Naruto the win then that much is already clear. Deva Path is capable of flight. Rinnegan's Bird summon is capable of flight. Shinra Tensei and Bansho Tennin can push and pull Naruto regardless of him flying. Ameno lets him teleport anywhere including to Naruto if he tries to fly out of Sasuke's range. Being able to fly doesn't change the fact that 100% of the damage he can do from a distance relies on chakra based techs like Rasengan and FRS, things Preta Path easily absorbs. If we give them all feats they should logically have this match becomes a one sided slaughter for Sasuke.
I'd normally agree with you however sasuke's preta path has a major flaw and thats because he is naturally not a sage. Sure sasuke can control minimum amounts of natural energy when given but thats nothing compared to the amount Naruto can infuse into his attacks. Also sasuke needs to actually touch the techniques to absorb them or atleast close enough for the preta barrier to work. If Naruto decided to launch multiple bijuu rasenshuriken sasuke is screwed or Naruto could simply fire on at the ground and the aoe/ground zero deals massive damage. :sigar:
 

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Rinnegan Genjutsu. GG.
At this point in manga I believe Naruto is immune to sasuke's visual gen thanks to bijuu. Sasuke is no itachi, only itachi's tsukuyomi arguably works because it's fast but even then I doubt it'd effect Naruto. :sigar:
 

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At this point in manga I believe Naruto is immune to sasuke's visual gen thanks to bijuu. Sasuke is no itachi, only itachi's tsukuyomi arguably works because it's fast but even then I doubt it'd effect Naruto. :sigar:

You believe? I don't believe anything more needs to be said.
 

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You believe? I don't believe anything more needs to be said.
Well by bee feats vs sasuke visual gen it's a mangafact. So you're right, nothing more needs to be said. :sigar:

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Rinnegan Genjutsu. GG.



You prolonged it needlessly. Should've just asked him to bring proof of this magical recreation and repair of Balls. It's kinda like those shitty arguments where Naruto supposedly throws away his whole Avatar and then magically reforms it to take Amaterasu. Shit arounds all around.

If I have evidence that 100% ends the opposing argument I'd rather just bring it all out instead of waiting for the next post only for it to say something like "no you prove it" or some nonsense like that.. :lol

I'd normally agree with you however sasuke's preta path has a major flaw and thats because he is naturally not a sage. Sure sasuke can control minimum amounts of natural energy when given but thats nothing compared to the amount Naruto can infuse into his attacks. Also sasuke needs to actually touch the techniques to absorb them or atleast close enough for the preta barrier to work. If Naruto decided to launch multiple bijuu rasenshuriken sasuke is screwed or Naruto could simply fire on at the ground and the aoe/ground zero deals massive damage. :sigar:

Yeah, he's not a Sage, but Naruto's Rasengan and FRS don't contain enough chakra to overtake and outweigh Sasuke's chakra. The only way he'll ever be in danger of turning to stone is if he continuously absorbs chakra from Naruto's body directly all in one setting. Firing at the ground doesn't get around Preta Path either. FRS is chakra pre explosion and during the explosion. If it touches Sasuke's Preta barrier/body it'll be absorbed.

So Naruto's only way of damaging Sasuke is via physical attacks or by blitzing and hitting him w/ a chakra based tech before he can react, and we all know the latter isn't possible.
 

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The only way to be able to keep up is speed... and Sasuke is fast

but would be a good match , still Naruto is stronger because he is using kyuubi power/ kyuubi mode, which gives him power up

-Sharingan solos
 
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If I have evidence that 100% ends the opposing argument I'd rather just bring it all out instead of waiting for the next post only for it to say something like "no you prove it" or some nonsense like that.. :lol

You think this will end it? Silly kid. :kd:
 

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If I have evidence that 100% ends the opposing argument I'd rather just bring it all out instead of waiting for the next post only for it to say something like "no you prove it" or some nonsense like that.. :lol



Yeah, he's not a Sage, but Naruto's Rasengan and FRS don't contain enough chakra to overtake and outweigh Sasuke's chakra. The only way he'll ever be in danger of turning to stone is if he continuously absorbs chakra from Naruto's body directly all in one setting. Firing at the ground doesn't get around Preta Path either. FRS is chakra pre explosion and during the explosion. If it touches Sasuke's Preta barrier/body it'll be absorbed.

So Naruto's only way of damaging Sasuke is via physical attacks or by blitzing and hitting him w/ a chakra based tech before he can react, and we all know the latter isn't possible.
Madara as a modified edo with hashirama cells/power and rinnegan absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken with preta and claimed it was "too much energy", even his hands were smoking.

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The fact you guys believe sasuke could absorb something of this magnitude is beyond me. Nevermind the fact Naruto has matured and possess full kurama and hashiroid arm now.

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